How Russia got caught by his own hands about Su-24 ?

[Ghazwa e Hind]

Shamelss sycophancy is one thing, but making that shyte up while carefully excluding your chinese brothers just shows how patheticaly weak you are.

I dont want turkey destroyed, heck dont have a single ill will against turks. There is no reason to. But turkeys policies towards ISIS i disagree with, i think they are playing a double game. And i oppose it verbally thats all.

And what are your views about Indian involvement in all neighboring countries??? spreading terrorism in Sri Lanka, China and Pakistan??? Ajit Doval creating an ISIS network in Northern Afghanistan???

 

[Stag112]

And what are your views about Indian involvement in all neighboring countries??? spreading terrorism in Sri Lanka, China and Pakistan??? Ajit Doval creating an ISIS network in Northern Afghanistan???

Here are my views - L O L!

 

[yugocrosrb95]

That is for another poster. His theory that Russia let the aircraft get shot down bears no weight and his desperation in defending it shows.

Again you lie two lies...

First: Defend
Second: Desperation

You are a pathological liar.

 

[SQ8]

Turkey did issue a warning after the previous violation, and the appropriate reaction
from Russia should have been to add margins during navigation.

Would be Monsieur, not that they would. It was a case of the bear baiting the Turks and the turks fell for it.

Again you lie two lies...

First: Defend
Second: Desperation

You are a pathological liar.

And you are a man clinging to desperate measures to try and save your false claims. Its amusing, and that is all that it is.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

And you are a man clinging to desperate measures to try and save your false claims. Its amusing, and that is all that it is.

I didn't take any measures and I where did I try to save supposedly "false" "claim"?

You know what is really amusing?

Your assumptions about me which are detached from reality, you claims about me shows that that is what you want to believe about me as you continue to lie about me again and again and as there is a scientifically proven theory, those who continuously keep telling the same lie over and over again will make others and themselves believe that it is the truth.

What are desperate measures by your standard? When a person says that you are lying about them? Is that desperate? Is being factual and truthful act of desperation by your standard? I would't be surprised since you keep lying about me.

...and my supposed claim isn't a claim nor it is false as you want to make yourself believe as you don't do research, you don't connect/combine various informations to make an analysis.

Russian Ministry Of Defense knew where are F-16's and they had contact with pilots.

Assad's and Russian Airforce has breached Turkish airspace numerous times, their jets and drones and Turkey shotdown Assad's planes and drones also russian drone, it is a clear message to Assad and to Russia when they shotdown their drone.

Russia said that it won't happen again, yet it did, Russian airforce knew where are F-16's and where are their SU-24's thus they should have notified pilots to not come close to the border in the first place and russian military knows rules of NATO thus they know that NATO has a sort of buffer zone when it is about airspace.

Russian military continuosly failed to act politely and profesionally which resulted in a response once SU-24 breached Turkish airspace and Turkey has the right to respond after numerous breaches and broken promise and I would't be surprised that a promise means alot in Turkey, it is trust after all and Russia broke it like a prick.

You can go but, but, but... NO.

Russia said, it won't happen again and yet it did it again...

If SU-24 turned sooner toward Syrian border when it breached the airspace then Turkish airforce would possibly not fire, and if they did the SU-24 would outlast the air to air missile as Turkish members of this forum said that range of that rocket was 60 kilometers and it was fired 50 kilometers from the border.

Call it what you want... False claim... Desperation... Keep lying about me... Go on.

 

[airmarshal]

Believe in Russians all you want but whole world has seen the warning record and radar tracks released by Turkish army while Russia hasnt provided any evidences for their claims except paint drawing maps.

I think that warning record turned out to be fake.

However, I do understand Turkish frustration after Russian entered the conflict and began pounding terrorists of all stripes. That included terrorists supported by Turkey.

Erdogan policies might be in the national interest the way he has defined that interest. But I who always admire and wish well for Turkey dont see his Syria policy anything but a disaster.

You cant win any war by raising proxies in your own neighborhood. Just like you cant stay stable by creating instability in the region. Erdogan is doing that and that is not good for Turkey in the long run.

I didn't take any measures and I where did I try to save supposedly "false" "claim"?

You know what is really amusing?

Your assumptions about me which are detached from reality, you claims about me shows that that is what you want to believe about me as you continue to lie about me again and again and as there is a scientifically proven theory, those who continuously keep telling the same lie over and over again will make others and themselves believe that it is the truth.

What are desperate measures by your standard? When a person says that you are lying about them? Is that desperate? Is being factual and truthful act of desperation by your standard? I would't be surprised since you keep lying about me.

...and my supposed claim isn't a claim nor it is false as you want to make yourself believe as you don't do research, you don't connect/combine various informations to make an analysis.

Russian Ministry Of Defense knew where are F-16's and they had contact with pilots.

Assad's and Russian Airforce has breached Turkish airspace numerous times, their jets and drones and Turkey shotdown Assad's planes and drones also russian drone, it is a clear message to Assad and to Russia when they shotdown their drone.

Russia said that it won't happen again, yet it did, Russian airforce knew where are F-16's and where are their SU-24's thus they should have notified pilots to not come close to the border in the first place and russian military knows rules of NATO thus they know that NATO has a sort of buffer zone when it is about airspace.

Russian military continuosly failed to act politely and profesionally which resulted in a response once SU-24 breached Turkish airspace and Turkey has the right to respond after numerous breaches and broken promise and I would't be surprised that a promise means alot in Turkey, it is trust after all and Russia broke it like a prick.

You can go but, but, but... NO.

Russia said, it won't happen again and yet it did it again...

If SU-24 turned sooner toward Syrian border when it breached the airspace then Turkish airforce would possibly not fire, and if they did the SU-24 would outlast the air to air missile as Turkish members of this forum said that range of that rocket was 60 kilometers and it was fired 50 kilometers from the border.

Call it what you want... False claim... Desperation... Keep lying about me... Go on.

If you have something to contribute then get to the point. We are not here to read your melodramatic posts. Say something to dispute @Oscar claims. Your sentimental posts are not convincing. In fact irritating.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

If you have something to contribute then get to the point. We are not here to read your melodramatic posts. Say something to dispute @Oscar claims. Your sentimental posts are not convincing. In fact irritating.

You want me to get to the point and I already did.

Melodramatic? You asked me to make a point yet I already did and that is melodramatic?

Russia is basically doing this to NATO;

Sooner or later this may happen...