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How Pakistan can overcome India militarily in a realistic war

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First of all we don't need to overlook India's size and population numbers and equipment All deserves respect and they are definitely not a walk over so please get that out of your mind.

So the question is how can Pakistan overcome militarily it's 7 times larger opponent. Pakistan won't even have to search for War but war will come knocking on it's door due to the rise of the hindu extremism in India.

Both Countries are heavily armed and realistic war could happen around 2050s due to natural water crisis around the world.

Indians are confident due to numbers that victory will be theres in such event if it occurs.

But there is one joker Pakistan has that India has never considered which will make the numbers level that is the Pashtuns. A heavily armed pashtun army is unstoppable in my opinion and could run thru India like hot knife thru butter reaching all the way to tamilnadu in no time.

I think the numbers will be nothing but an illusion when you have the pashtuns involved they will wreck havoc and terrorize India. Hard to overcome a non-armed pashtun but imagine a heavily armed and well oiled pashtun army. Numbers will be nothing but illusion.

But pakistan has to keep modernizing constantly in order to keep it's competitive egde
 
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No matter how many try to come, every single one will be obliterated by modern weapons that can kill thousands at once.

Reaching Jaipur was impossible in 1965 and this guy is trying to reach Tamil Nadu..!
Lol..!

PS. It can be possible in a post apocalyptic world where 95% of the population is dead, but then I would be thinking in the lines of jihadis.
Enjoy...!
 
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pushtun factor means nothing

India has always been defeated by fanatic soldiers irrespective of religion or their race. Hindus through out their history has shown the don't have what it takes to stomach a fight.
 
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No matter how many try to come, every single one will be obliterated by modern weapons that can kill thousands at once.

Reaching Jaipur was impossible in 1965 and this guy is trying to reach Tamil Nadu..!
Lol..!

PS. It can be possible in a post apocalyptic world where 95% of the population is dead, but then I would be thinking in the lines of jihadis.
Enjoy...!

All these so-called wars was just a little skirmish but an all out war with Nukes, Chemical weapons and what not they could definitely reach Tamil Nadu. These people are battle hardened and can operate on harsh situations but I am not so sure if the Indians can. It's not going to be an skirmish but rather a war for existence. Where 800 million and upto billion could die within few months in the subcontinent
 
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I wont label all those tribal militarized zones PASHTUUN. This is racism. Pashtuuns Live from KPK to KArachi all across Pakistan doing every kind of Work Right from Labour, Professionals, Doctors, Successful Businessmen upto Current Prime Minister and Interior Minister(In Effect).
You should say TRIBALS. And Frankly for 2 decades they are slicing through us like hot knife more then India. And we are doing what we can do to integrate them into the society. Investing developing Tribal areas. Installing regular Police and laws in those areas. By 2050 their wont be any Tribal Militias anymore if we are successful in what we are trying to do. All Tribal areas will be developed. their will be Civilized metropolitan centers there instead of Villages with warlords.

As for War. It will depend on the Motives of warring sides. Pakistan will never Invade India. It will be India who will be belligerent Party. And it will be a War of Survival for Pakistan. I don't believe all these so called Saffron Extremists will be singing war songs when fierce Response comes from Pakistan side Fighting for existence (i.e if war starts of water blockade by India) if it does not go nuclear in the first place. Pakistan is no pushover conventionally as many believe. the numerical parity is just 1 to 2 or maximum 1 to 3 between Indian and Pakistani Forces.

A Aggressive India will find less Volunteers to war compared to a defensive Pakistan to be honest
 
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No matter how many try to come, every single one will be obliterated by modern weapons that can kill thousands at once.

Reaching Jaipur was impossible in 1965 and this guy is trying to reach Tamil Nadu..!
Lol..!

PS. It can be possible in a post apocalyptic world where 95% of the population is dead, but then I would be thinking in the lines of jihadis.
Enjoy...!
but still u cant deny the thousand years old history.
 
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All these so called wars was just a little skirmish but an all out war with Nukes, Chemical weapons and what not they could definitely reach Tamil Nadu. These people are battle hardened and can operate on harsh situations but I am not so sure if the Indians can. It's not going to be an skirmish but rather a war for existence. Where 800 million and upto billion could die within few months in the subcontinent
 
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India can be defeated through qualitative edge. All they have is dirt cheap quantity. We have the quality. We proved it on the 27th and before. We are better organized and have better trained professionals. Above all we have faith.

Pakistan should be nonexistent if you consider the circumstances. We are surrounded by hostile powers. Not one but multiple. We have fought multiple wars against a nation that supersedes in size and economy. We are still here. They have tried every trick in the book. From 18 years of covert terrorism across the border in Afghanistan to direct confrontations. Nothing has worked for them. They teamed up with a superpower US/NATO and had the luxury of misusing the border terrain in Afghanistan. They had extreme advantages over Pakistan. They were in the best possible position to deal a decisive blow to Pakistan. The Americans gave India everything on a silver platter. Even the narrative and justification was fabricated for their convenience. They couldn’t achieve any success. We are resilient and we have faith. They don’t have such things.

Today the tables have turned. The world saw the response by Pakistan. We humiliated India in broad daylight. We shot down their fighters, went in destroyed their military installations and captured their pilot. All of this is impossible without planning and quality against an adversary that is much larger with ample resources.
 
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All these so-called wars was just a little skirmish but an all out war with Nukes, Chemical weapons and what not they could definitely reach Tamil Nadu. These people are battle hardened and can operate on harsh situations but I am not so sure if the Indians can. It's not going to be an skirmish but rather a war for existence. Where 800 million and upto billion could die within few months in the subcontinent
Now you are thinking in lines of Isis fighters, they really thought they could force Russia and USA to obliterate each other in a nuclear apocalypse.
After which they could rule over the entire globe with swords.
I mean LOL.
Good that Isis lost all their territory and 100k soldiers, fkin losers.
 
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Now you are thinking in lines of Isis fighters, they really thought they could force Russia and USA to obliterate each other in a nuclear apocalypse.
After which they could rule over the entire globe with swords.
I mean LOL.
Good that Isis lost all their territory and 100k soldiers, fkin losers.

Isis is non-state actors and can't be related to any state at all and not only that nobody wanted them in the Syrian war both Pro-assad nor Rebels or in betweeners like the Kurds. They have zero support from anyone. Btw they had only 30k max not 100k

You can't use them at all as reference or something compared to a state.

They were nothing more than a bunch of civilians who picked up a weapon and they were lightly armed. But Pakistan can kill a billion in the subcontinent within few months thats a whole different ball game
 
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Ambush and arrest their solider, parade them. They'll immediately lose all appetite for war. Pakistanis are tough people, we don't fear blood or death. Indians want their peace back at the first sight of blood.
 
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Musharraf has repeatedly said that, in a defensive war, Pakistan is more than a match for India conventionally. He says that the defender only needs 1/3rd of force of the attacker to defend itself successfully. So I don't think Pakistan really needs its civilian population to take up arms for a defense.

Pakistan didn't mobilize civilians to fight India in the previous wars, even in the 1965 war where Indians DID want to penetrate deep inside and occupy even medium sized cities and hence the great battle of the tanks. That's because Pakistan was/is a good match against India in a defensive posture. But, boy, if a call is given then you bet the heavily armed civilian population of Pakistan can turn the whole country to a giant war machine in no time. During the 2002 standoff against India, for example, my teenage nephew from Karachi was ready to go to the front and fight the Indians--he was very charged. And I believe he'd really go for the fight because he knew what a loss against India would mean.
 
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Quick thrusts to hold strategic locations and then just defend/wear-down/sabotage until the numbers are more even, where Pakistan can then go on the offensive.

A big chunk of Indian equipment is also non-operational so I doubt Pakistani forces would be overwhelmed like many think
 
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Pakistan just needs to be able to ensure MAD, which is already the case.

So don't expect any successful Indian invasion of Pakistan anytime soon, or vice versa.
 
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