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How Northeast India Was Christianised In The Last 100 Years

To be fair, Christianity was well established in the Southern states early in history. Sea trade routes introduced the Abrahamic religions.

Thank god you did not claim "St. Thomas".

But yes, Syrian Christians did come to India following their cousins, the Jews. Though in all fairness, they were kicked out by the Persian empire for Betraying them and siding with the Roman Christian invaders during battle.

Beyond that, most xtians in kerala and TN is due to the British and European missionaries in the 18th and 19th century. North East was due to missionaries in the 20th century. Goa is of course due to the horrible Portuguese inquest.

Andhra , Rajasthan, Punjab etc. is due to US missionaries in the 21st century.
 
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You do realize that the church is doing exactly what you say will "never work" , right ? :lol:

Bringing in another faith that counters an already entrenched faith and social customs and social values.

Its already done that in the North East and Kerala, TN and Andhra.

So what you are claiming is "impossible", evidence shows the opposite.

SO either you are in denial or have some ulterior motive to pretend to be dumb. Which is it ?
My reason--a dislike for all religions, including yours.
Now, as per census reports, Christianity is in a decline in percentage terms, as Hindus and Muslims have higher fertility (ie, Christians have lesser number of kids).
The North East folk were converted to Christianity, but not from Hinduism. They had, and some still have, their tribal religions. It is quite possible that the Christians in the south are hiding their status.
But there is rampant caste discrimination in Hinduism, and you won't find many takers for a 'ghar wapasi'.
The only way forward is to push laws that make religions less powerful. For eg-incentivising inter faith marriages, giving recognition to the atheists and agnostics, etc.
 
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My reason--a dislike for all religions, including yours.
Now, as per census reports, Christianity is in a decline in percentage terms, as Hindus and Muslims have higher fertility (ie, Christians have lesser number of kids).
The North East folk were converted to Christianity, but not from Hinduism. They had, and some still have, their tribal religions. It is quite possible that the Christians in the south are hiding their status.
But there is rampant caste discrimination in Hinduism, and you won't find many takers for a 'ghar wapasi'.
The only way forward is to push laws that make religions less powerful. For eg-incentivising inter faith marriages, giving recognition to the atheists and agnostics, etc.

How do you know what is my religion ?

Your posts clearly show a biased leaning towards xtianity so I assume you are of xtian background.

For example,

How can a census show a decline in percentage term if the number of xtian are increasing due to conversion ? That is statistically impossible.

How does it matter if the NE folks converted from Hinduism or from some other religion ? Are you saying that their customs and religion and faith and vaues were LESS IMPORTANT than Hinduism ?

There is close to zero caste discrimination in Hinduism except when to comes to marriages. And even that is coming to and end since money is a more over riding factor than caste or even religion sometimes.

Why should Hinduism be forced to become less relevant or important just because you want to neutralize US christian conversions ?

That sounds like a hidden agenda against Hinduism and in favor of xtianity.

It stinks of bad faith and irrational hate for Hindus. Hinduism already has space for atheist and agnostics in it. So what is the need to create a "New" space for something has has always existed in the Hindu culture, society and ethos?
 
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Thank god you did not claim "St. Thomas".

But yes, Syrian Christians did come to India following their cousins, the Jews. Though in all fairness, they were kicked out by the Persian empire for Betraying them and siding with the Roman Christian invaders during battle.

Beyond that, most xtians in kerala and TN is due to the British and European missionaries in the 18th and 19th century. North East was due to missionaries in the 20th century. Goa is of course due to the horrible Portuguese inquest.

Andhra , Rajasthan, Punjab etc. is due to US missionaries in the 21st century.
Never heard of Christians getting chased out of Persia into South India. Do you have a source for this?
 
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How do you know what is my religion ?

Your posts clearly show a biased leaning towards xtianity so I assume you are of xtian background.

For example,

How can a census show a decline in percentage term if the number of xtian are increasing due to conversion ? That is statistically impossible.

How does it matter if the NE folks converted from Hinduism or from some other religion ? Are you saying that their customs and religion and faith and vaues were LESS IMPORTANT than Hinduism ?

There is close to zero caste discrimination in Hinduism except when to comes to marriages. And even that is coming to and end since money is a more over riding factor than caste or even religion sometimes.

Why should Hinduism be forced to become less relevant or important just because you want to neutralize US christian conversions ?

That sounds like a hidden agenda against Hinduism and in favor of xtianity.

It stinks of bad faith and irrational hate for Hindus. Hinduism already has space for atheist and agnostics in it. So what is the need to create a "New" space for something has has always existed in the Hindu culture, society and ethos?
My parents were Hindus, though from different states. Faiths never appealed to me.
The church has centuries of experience at converting others through power, money and the sword. The sword doesn't work in current times, and you can't beat them in the other two spheres.

Caste discrimination is mainly during marriages, employment, and sometimes in housing- so it helps to segregate people. Aside from this, no one wants an 'inferior' tag.
Who's making sure that the ghar wapsi people get to be kshtriyas and brahmans instead of being lumped with the lower castes again?

Lastly, Atheists and agnostics need a separate identity if they don't identify with their former faiths.

Hindus or Muslims can't win against Christianity. Atheists can.
 
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Never heard of Christians getting chased out of Persia into South India. Do you have a source for this?

I have posted it earlier. I will dig it up.

Are you aware of the Syrian Christians offering their help and loyalty to the Portuguese when they landed in Kerala, to defeat the King of Kerala who had actually given them refuge ? :azn:
 
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If people choosh to believe in a different religion islam/xtianity how can you stop them, how can you force someone to remain something they don't want to be

If that is the case at all. The problem is, that is not the case. Most of it is forced out. And no matter how much you venom you hurl against The Hindu community or us, the reality is far from what you think. We know it as we live in our respective regions and know what is going on on ground.

Hence our reactions will be different.
 
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I have posted it earlier. I will dig it up.

Are you aware of the Syrian Christians offering their help and loyalty to the Portuguese when they landed in Kerala, to defeat the King of Kerala who had actually given them refuge ? :azn:
I'm aware that the Syrians had an issue with the Portuguese over who had control of the faith. The Syrians preferred the religious head in the Middle East and had no clue about the pope while the Portuguese favored the pope. As far as I know, the Syrians eventually accepted the pope. Again, never heard of any infighting or betrayal among the locals. Dump all the links and sources you have, it will be an interesting read.
 
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If that is the case at all. The problem is, that is not the case. Most of it is forced out. And no matter how much you venom you hurl against The Hindu community or us, the reality is far from what you think. We know it as we live in our respective regions and know what is going on on ground.

Hence our reactions will be different.

This is bull plop from you

If you want people to remain hindu or Buddhist then tell them the positives of doing so

If a xtian or Muslim then wants to espouse their own faiths then let them

You trying to take free will from people abd forcing them to remain something that they may not want
 
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That's why we are backing the Hindu nationalists. In fact, our current Opposition is a sell-out when it comes to religion. First they fooled Hindus, then the Sikhs, then Muslims and now Christians.

Missionaries will suffer if they continue hampering peace in Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh societies.
There’s more Muslims in India than rest of the non-hindu religion put to together in India. How come you left Muslims out? Shows you’re hindutva mentality. Muslims in India need tk wake up. Demand. Separate country can’t live with this type of people with hindutva mentality and ideology.
 
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There’s more Muslims in India than rest of the non-hindu religion put to together in India. How come you left Muslims out? Shows you’re hindutva mentality. Muslims in India need tk wake up. Demand. Separate country can’t live with this type of people with hindutva mentality and ideology.
You do understand that once you ask for separate country in India ,noone can save you ? No congress,No CPM,they will be mute spactators of the hell that will be unleashed on you.


Besides leave defence it's time to attack and convert other faiths into Dharmic folds.
 
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Utter rubbish.

Religious conversion and social unrest is just another tool of their foreign policy.

Tool for achieving which foreign policy objective? Dominance? They already have it. Resources of ME? They also have that. What remains? The word rubbish won't drive away facts you find unpleasant to your ears.
 
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I hope you understand that xtians are FAR more hostile to muslism than Hindus. :lol:

You think more xtians in India is going to make India better for muslims like you ? :cheesy:



3 Lakh Triblas converted over last 10 years in Rajasthan alone




Good news for India.

Perhaps one day we can be considered among the first world.

If you want people to remain hindu or Buddhist then tell them the positives of doing so
And what exactly are those?
 
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...eturn-church-buildings-stolen-1300-years-ago/

Pagans demand return of church buildings 'stolen' 1,300 years ago

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Agroup of pagans has written to the Archbishop of Canterbury demanding two churches to make amends for those it says were stolen 1,300 years ago.

The Odinist Fellowship, which represents 1,000 members of the pagan religion, wrote to the Church of England last month asking for two churches to be returned to make up for actions which took place during the Christianisation of England.

The letter, addressed directly to Archbishop Welby, said: "With a view to re-establishing better relations between the Odinist Fellowship and the Christian churches in England, and persuaded that a restitution of past wrongs is the best way to lay the foundations of improved relations, we wish you to be aware that the great majority of Odinists believe that honour requires the English church to issue a public apology for its former crimes against the Odinists."

Ralph Harrison, director of the Fellowship, told the Sunday Telegraph: "Two bishops have sent responses, which have been polite, but nothing substantial.

"The objective is just to get the Church to acknowledge that it has got a history of persecution when it comes to the Odinist religion and it has to take stock of that and not just write it out of history.

"Within the Odinist community there is a strong sense of antagonism towards the institutional Church."

The group wants one church from the diocese of York and one from the diocese of Canterbury.

It said that during the Christianisation of England, which began in the 7th century, many temple grounds were seized by early church leaders including St Augustine and turned into churches.

Mr Harrison called this process a "spiritual genocide". "As things stand, the Church of England is in possession of a vast quantity of stolen property," he said.

In another letter sent to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York last year, a group of priests said: "If such satisfaction is not offered, albeit that your church possesses a superfluity of ecclesiastical properties, then we most respectfully assure you, that we will persist ever more vocally in our just demands until at last they are met."

According to Mr Harrison, the Bishop of Chichester, Martin Warner, responded saying "As yet I am uncertain as to the evidence for the strength of Odinist faith in these parts".

A registered religious charity since 1988, the Fellowship promotes the "original, indigenous faith of the English people" which was practised by Angles, Saxons and Jutes.

It is polytheistic and believers follow the High Gods of Asgarth, who they see "not as our masters, but as firm friends and powerful allies".

According to Mr Harrison, there are around 10,000 Odinists in the country.

Missionaries were first sent to Britain to convert the pagan Anglo Saxons by Pope Gregory the Great in 596.

Dr James Palmer, a historian of early medieval Europe at the University of St Andrews, said the belief that early Christians had "stolen" churches from pagans was partly based on letters sent by Pope Gregory in which he encouraged his missionaries to change existing temples into Christian places of worship in the hope that natives would continue to attend and be converted that way.

But, he said, many of the pagan temples had been originally converted from Christian churches left behind by the Romans, who had left at the start of the 5th century.

"It's all very nice of the Odinists to say that the English were there and they're pagans, but actually the British were there too, and they were Christians," he said.

"They've only been ancestral lands for at best 100 years before the pagans turn up, and it is most likely that any pagan temples were on old church sites.

"I think it's all a bit of tit for tat. If you can claim that the church took the land off the pagans, they had taken it off Christians to start with."

He added that in many places the two religions co-existed in the same space. One leader, Rædwald of East Anglia, was said to have had an altar for the Christian worship alongside a pagan one.
 
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