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"This flexibility of thought disappears, however, as soon as a political concept is taken over ready-made by people who belong to a very different civili-zation and have, therefore, passed through different historical experiences. To such people, the political term or institution in question appears, as a rule, to be endowed with an absolute, unchanging meaning which does not take into consideration the fact of its historical evolution and, consequently, contributes to the very rigidity of political thought which the new conceptual acquisition had sought to remove."

He is talking about "democracy".

Muhammad Asad, page 19, The Principles of State and Government in Islam.



"One of the main reasons for the confusion regarding the idea of the Islamic state is the indiscriminate application - both by the upholders and the critics of this idea - of Western political terms and definitions to the entirely different concept of Islamic polity".

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"Not infrequently we find in the writings of modern Muslims the assertion that 'Islam is democratic' or even that it aims at the establishment of a 'socialist' society; whereas many Western writers refer to an alleged 'totalitarianism' in Islam which must necessarily result in dictatorship."

Page 18.
The quotes you provided did not help me understand your view on their own so I read pages 18-20. I'm not claiming Islam is democratic, nor am I claiming it is the best option for Pakistan. I agree with the author that democracy as a concept has changed over time and is quite flexible in that regard given the context it is put in. I also agree that the "will of the people" cannot surpass Divine law in the importance of adherence. But we live in a world where in my view, democracy in whatever form is, unfortunately, the most viable option for a country to be run in accordance with the will of Allah. Coupled with proper Islamic education, democracy is the pathway for a successful Islamic state in the 21st Century. Compare it with military rule: While there is a small chance of it being successful, it most likely won't be as we learn from Pakistan's history.
 
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The quotes you provided did not help me understand your view on their own so I read pages 18-20. I'm not claiming Islam is democratic, nor am I claiming it is the best option for Pakistan. I agree with the author that democracy as a concept has changed over time and is quite flexible in that regard given the context it is put in. I also agree that the "will of the people" cannot surpass Divine law in the importance of adherence. But we live in a world where in my view, democracy in whatever form is, unfortunately, the most viable option for a country to be run in accordance with the will of Allah. Coupled with proper Islamic education, democracy is the pathway for a successful Islamic state in the 21st Century. Compare it with military rule: While there is a small chance of it being successful, it most likely won't be as we learn from Pakistan's history.
But Pakistan never had a democracy that was subject to Divine Law. Quaid e Aazum had appointed Muhammad Asad as the Director of the Dept of Islamic reconstruction in order to bring Pakistan upon these lines, as you know most of her educational, legal and politically structure she inherited from the Colonial master, who was not to fond of "Muhammadenism". The Quaid died one year later, and the insincere leaders transferred Muhammad Asad to the foreign ministry and out the country, when his department burned down and very few documents were saved. Muhammad Asad then soon realised that many of the elite of Pakistan were hypocrites.
Pakistan has been running on the democracy that Iqbal so eloquently denounced in his poetry save the time she was under military rule. I don't know which is worse....
You are right education is needed, but the education system is such that these topics are not taught. How many Pakistani children will learn about Muhammad Asad (an Ashkenazi jewish convert to Islam who spend time in a Britsh Jail in British India as he held Austrian citizenship during WW II only because he wanted to be part of Pakistan)? How many will learn about his works? This education is self directed and will it reach the critical mass it needs?
 
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But Pakistan never had a democracy that was subject to Divine Law. Quaid e Aazum had appointed Muhammad Asad as the Director of the Dept of Islamic reconstruction in order to bring Pakistan upon these lines, as you know most of her educational, legal and politically structure she inherited from the Colonial master, who was not to fond of "Muhammadenism". The Quaid died one year later, and the insincere leaders transferred Muhammad Asad to the foreign ministry and out the country, when his department burned down and very few documents were saved. Muhammad Asad then soon realised that many of the elite of Pakistan were hypocrites.
Pakistan has been running on the democracy that Iqbal so eloquently denounced in his poetry save the time she was under military rule. I don't know which is worse....
You are right education is needed, but the education system is such that these topics are not taught. How many Pakistani children will learn about Muhammad Asad (an Ashkenazi jewish convert to Islam who spend time in a Britsh Jail in British India as he held Austrian citizenship during WW II only because he wanted to be part of Pakistan)? How many will learn about his works? This education is self directed and will it reach the critical mass it needs?
What do you propose is the solutions then?
 
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What do you propose is the solutions then?
We are hypocrites. We must first cleanse our own hearts. Read regular salad, read the Quran regularly and try to learn enough Quranic Arabic to get a basic understanding, stop corruption, honour the orphan etc etc....the hearts are impure....
 
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We are hypocrites. We must first cleanse our own hearts. Read regular salad, read the Quran regularly and try to learn enough Quranic Arabic to get a basic understanding, stop corruption, honour the orphan etc etc....the hearts are impure....
Alright, so go with the current system of democracy until we become better Muslims and then try to improve on the system?
 
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Alright, so go with the current system of democracy until we become better Muslims and then try to improve on the system?
well, personally I think a big war will happen this generation or the next, if we improve ourselves and our children, we or they may have a opportunity: another Do or Die moment.
 
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well, personally I think a big war will happen this generation or the next, if we improve ourselves and our children, we or they may have a opportunity: another Do or Die moment.
A civil war or external? I hope not for war but I really want a revolution.
 
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Al Malhama. No doubt that Pakistan will be involved...unfortunately...
May Allah (SWT) help us all. It is my duah that me and my beloved ones do not live to see the Dajjal.
 
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