How India lost itself through British education

[jayron]

LORD MACAULAY was the man who implemented British Education in India in order to create English speaking clerks to serve and generations with deep with inferiority complex to come .



LORD MACAULAY’S ADDRESS TO THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT, 2 FEBRUARY, 1835

I have travelled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation.

you have a source for this speech?

Looks like its some kind of conspiracy theorist at work claiming India and Hindus are the most superior beings on the planet and all the ills we face today are due to invaders.

 

[somebozo]

English speaking clerks back then are the telemarketers of today repeating fixed pharases like parrot on phone day in day out and making the life of consumers living hell..And well to do with the "indigenious" pride if English is the uniting factor..where are the hindi and marathi die hards??

And that lord mccullay report about richness of india is just false propoganda made up by a communist party.

 

[IND151]

I think that this claim itself is false. India might have been rich, but I do not think there were ever a situation where there were no beggers. I think wealth would have been confined to selected few. Also I feel the population back then would have been lot less. We were around 30 crorer in 1947 and 1 billion now. I guess back then it should be less then 10 billion, with same land.100 million if you mean.less population bigger share of available resources for every citizen.
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[IND151]

e]I think that this claim itself is false. India might have been rich, but I do not think there were ever a situation where there were no beggers. I think wealth would have been confined to selected few. Also I feel the population back then would have been lot less. We were around 30 crorer in 1947 and 1 billion now. I guess back then it should be less then 10 billion, with same land.>100 million if you mean.less population bigger share of available resources for every citizen.
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less population means bigger share of available resources for every citizen.
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[scrumpy]

LORD MACAULAY was the man who implemented British Education in India in order to create English speaking clerks to serve and generations with deep with inferiority complex to come .



LORD MACAULAY’S ADDRESS TO THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT, 2 FEBRUARY, 1835

I have travelled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation.

Education until the British universalised it was only available to a select few. I also think that this was true for many countries at that period of time.

I think the education system was one of the better legacies of the British Raj times. The universities established by the British still work quiet well today. The system may have been put into place to only produce clerks but people took advantage of this very same education system to lift themselves and their communities out of poverty.

 

[BritishBangladeshi]

what the british did was so wrong

 

[hembo]

British destroyed our ancient excellent education system?what a joke!It was the british who universalised education which were previously restricted only to upper casts.Before the british came ladies of my cast were not allowed to cover their breasts(by upper casts)let alone attain education!

Spot on!!!

Some people can just see the negetivity on everything. While our ancient system of gurukul was a fascinating concept and can still be developed for present time education system, the curiculum/ content including english medium is still very relevant in todays time. However, with present days in-efficient and bribery endowed gurus (teachers) are not the ideal people to handle our future generartions entirely.

Also, we should not forget the bad practices and hyppocricies that were prevelant before british came as pointed out by the above poster. While british did a lot of evil things to our country, we should not entirely denounce the good things that they brought about.

Instead of having a telescopic view on things, people should try to think from a broader perspective on improving systems rather them miopic critisism.

 

[true_indian]

Well you have repeated what i have exactly said. I said

"in terms of language english is what unites it (india)"

to which you replied "language is what divides us"! Hence you have English to solve that problem, just like we have Urdu in Pakistan.

Nope. I meant our similar culture is what unites us. Language is still a point of contention.

 

[Pratik]

British destroyed our ancient excellent education system?what a joke!It was the british who universalised education which were previously restricted only to upper casts.Before the british came ladies of my cast were not allowed to cover their breasts(by upper casts)let alone attain education!

what a BS statement.

Can u apprehend the meaning of ur statement.

Do u mean to say ladies of ur cast were used as *** slaves by the upper caste ??

Caste issue has always inherent ecomnomic or political dimention to it. The fact the lower caste were mostly poor most peasants or did other manual labour than means lack of ecomnomic or political power give rise to exploitation from who up the chain of social strata.



For ur kind information , British indian civil services and other govt department till it india in 1947 comprised mostly of employees who came upper caste(basically Bharmins) hindu who took to British education in a big way. Lower classes let alone dalits were no where in the scene till India got Independence and made reservation to dalit a part of constitution.

 

[Pratik]

someone said British brought science and technology such as railways to India as if in the absence British raj we could never have access technology and would've been left in state of Afghanistan today is. Though let me point out here ,in end of 18th century(1800AD) ,India had big share(nearly 25%) in the global economy.

Did Russa or Japan need British colonization to emerge as technological powers even before the WWI ??

Japan was making its own fighter aircraft and companies like Toyota were making motor car before WW2.

Both the countries didn't have English language education ,but still managed to develop an industrial base and indigenous education system in native languages that can sustain technical progress which were comparable to the west.

Our industrial base heavily suffered due the British colonial exploitation in which India used to extract raw martial and ship it British in of 200 years reign . We also proved cannon fodder in many of it colonial wars.

 

[Pratik]

The one & only positive aspect of the British Raj is that it gave rise to big political state called India as we see it today.

But such is the power of its 200 years rule we still experiencing its negative ripple effects and failed to achieve our true potentials.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Just for the record, this dolt used as his opening post a mythical 'speech' by Lord Macaulay to the British Parliament, which never happened. It has been going the rounds of the Internet, accompanied by a Tamil translation, for ages now, and has been demonstrated to have been a fake long since.

As for the rest, the arguments speak for themselves, even though the original premise is such a falsehoold.

 

[gubbi]

Just for the record, this dolt used as his opening post a mythical 'speech' by Lord Macaulay to the British Parliament, which never happened. It has been going the rounds of the Internet, accompanied by a Tamil translation, for ages now, and has been demonstrated to have been a fake long since.

As for the rest, the arguments speak for themselves, even though the original premise is such a falsehoold.

Ha, You Sir, resurrected a 4 year old thread!!

 

[Echo_419]

Just for the record, this dolt used as his opening post a mythical 'speech' by Lord Macaulay to the British Parliament, which never happened. It has been going the rounds of the Internet, accompanied by a Tamil translation, for ages now, and has been demonstrated to have been a fake long since.

As for the rest, the arguments speak for themselves, even though the original premise is such a falsehoold.

You sir are responsible for digging up a 4 year old thread,how do you feel about that

 

[Bang Galore]

Everyone else seems to be discussing masala dosas, @Joe Shearer probably got hungry.