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How did the Hindu rulers become so powerful in the 15th century in India?

whenever there was a decline of muslim rulers, whether due to infighting, complacency or whatever reason, the hindu rajas would come to rule briefly. but not for long, as mughals came and put them in their place again soon after :enjoy: and when mughals declined and marathas tried crawling to the throne, the british kicked them back to the gutter again. and when empire of the brits was on its death bead, quaid e azam was waiting to show them their place once again. poor hindus :D
Not because poor hindus but rich hindus muslim rulers where thiefs(british too)

History always say india divided to make pakistan

India defeted pakistan to make bengladesh
 
I pity the hindu converts too, thats a sign of weakness in your religion

Do not talk bakwas, they were smart to leave let me tell you it was zulm what some of the lower castes had to go through on a daily basis and I am glad they chose to come to Islam instead of stay in those pitiful conditions.
 
Do not talk bakwas, they were smart to leave let me tell you it was zulm what some of the lower castes had to go through on a daily basis and I am glad they chose to come to Islam instead of stay in those pitiful conditions.
Offcourse I'm glad too, but hindus make it seem like that the Muslims in the sub-continent were forced to convert and my point was that if it is so then The weakness was still in their religion not Ours.
 
@Velociraptor
Have a long hard read of this, then drink a glass of milk.

A discussion about God’s existence should start with the acknowledgement that the burden of proof lies with the theists, that is, with those who believe in God. There are some questions that puzzle most reflective people: How did the laws of nature come to be? How did the universe come into existence? And how did life as a phenomenon originate from non-life? The Kalam cosmological argu-ment for the existence of God is a method of argument developed by medieval Muslim logicians and it was popularised in the West by philosopher William Craig. This philosophy entails the following; given that an observable universe exists, there are three possibilities: First, the universe always existed. Second, the universe created itself. Third, an all-powerful and all-knowing transcendent being, which we call God, created it. Let us examine each of these possibilities separately.

Eternal Universe
Consider the possibility of an eternal universe, a universe that existed forever. But the Second of the Law of Thermodynamics and the theory of entropy preclude this possibility. If the universe really had existed for an infinitely long period of time, its entropy and the measure of its molecular disorder, would have reached its maximal value; that is, the universe would have suffered a ‘heat death’. The fact that the universe has not yet died in this fashion implies that it cannot have endured for all eternity.

Origin of the Universe
As long as the universe could be conveniently thought of without an end and without a beginning, it remained easy to see its existence as a self-explanatory brute fact and perhaps there was not much need to postulate something else that produced it. But the Big Bang theory radically changed the situation.

The Big Bang is a widely-accepted theory of the origin of the universe. According to this theory, more than fourteen billions years ago, the universe emerged from a highly compressed and extremely hot state and then it rapidly cooled down and expanded. The Big Bang theory is considered a cornerstone of modern cos-mology. It provides a moment at the origin of the universe when creation could have occurred. At the origin, we encounter a point that physicists call a singularity, at which neither space nor time exists – and at that point the laws of physics breakdown.

If the universe had a beginning, it became entirely sensible, almost inevitable, to ask what produced this beginning. Therefore the idea of the origin of the universe with a singularity implying a role of God in its creation did not sit well with many atheistic scientists.

Bondi and Hoyle came up with a steady state theory in an attempt to explain the expansion of the universe in a way that would not require the universe to have had a beginning. But this theory was readily discarded, as it did not correspond to the observational data.

Stephen Hawking, professor of mathematics at Cambridge University, and James Hartle, proposed a theory where the universe has no boundary either in space or in time, that is, it has neither a beginning nor an end. In his book A Brief History of Time, Hawking then asked if there was any place for a creator in this scheme.

There are several problems with Hawking’s theory. Hawking’s solution uses imaginary time, invoked to stipulate imaginary universes. It remains an extre-mely speculative theory with little chance of experimental verification.

Fine Tuning of the
Universe The universe with all its laws appears to be delicately balanced and fine-tuned to produce human life. Physicists call this finding the anthropic principle. Many of the basic features of the universe are, in essence, determined by the values that are assigned to the fundamental constants and the initial conditions at the beginning of the universe.

Hawking wrote that if the rate of expansion one second after the Big Bang had been smaller by even one part in a hundred thousand trillion, the universe would have re-collapsed before it reached its present size. If the rate of expansion had been slightly higher, then the galaxies would have never formed. Astronomer Martin Rees, in Just Six Numbers, argues that six numbers underlie the fundamental physical properties of the universe, and that each is an exact value required for life to exist. If any one of the six (say the gravitational constant, or the strong nuclear force) were different even to the tiniest degree, there would be no stars, no complex elements and no life. Although Rees disavows the religious implications, he does not hesitate to call the values attached to the six numbers ‘providential’.

In the anthropic principle, the theist sees a purposeful design, the handiwork of God. The atheist looks upon it as a very lucky coincidence where humans exist in a universe with the right parameters to ponder over the mystery of their existence. But the odds of life appearing in the universe are so infinitesimal, so incredibly small that we need a rational explanation of how something this unlikely could take place.

Second Law of thermodynamics states that when highest entropy is attained, the concept of time won't exist. And that is when our known universe would end... That is what science says and the reason it has not ended is because there is a hell of a time left before we attain that maximal entropy state. Where does god come into picture here ?

As for the origin of universe, it was already been stated that the big bang may have been due to the collision between two universe in a multiverse..

And M theory also razes the concept of time all together.. Again .. no requirement of GOD needed here .. !

God is what you make of him, if you do not know God then that is on you do not expect the rest of us to give a shit.
Thats what i said in my first statement. If you believe in God, you should have no problems believing in harry potter flying on a broom stick !
 
Second Law of thermodynamics states that when highest entropy is attained, the concept of time won't exist. And that is when our known universe would end... That is what science says and the reason it has not ended is because there is a hell of a time left before we attain that maximal entropy state. Where does god come into picture here ?

As for the origin of universe, it was already been stated that the big bang may have been due to the collision between two universe in a multiverse..

And M theory also razes the concept of time all together.. Again .. no requirement of GOD needed here .. !

Yes yes of course, you don't need God to put this all together. Because this all came in to being one day, with all the right materials and all the right calculations. Whatever.
 
Thats what i said in my first statement. If you believe in God, you should have no problems believing in harry potter flying on a broom stick !

Actually yeah I have no problem if you want to believe in that.
 
Actually yeah I have no problem if you want to believe in that.

LOL i don't believe in either.. Its for those who believes in god :lol:

Yes yes of course, you don't need God to put this all together. Because this all came in to being one day, with all the right materials and all the right calculations. Whatever.

What do you mean by right calculations ? There is nothing called right calculations .. M theory explicitly talks about higher dimensions and all possibilities..

on a lighter note, there maybe a parallel universe where you are a hindu :lol:
 
LOL i don't believe in either.. Its for those who believes in god :lol:

I believe in God but I do not believe in harry potter, then there are some who believe in other stuff like aliens controlling the world like our friend isro222 I don't believe in such things but have no problem with him believing in it.
 
Offcourse I'm glad too, but hindus make it seem like that the Muslims in the sub-continent were forced to convert and my point was that if it is so then The weakness was still in their religion not Ours.
Expect India all other places under muslim rule are now completely islamic.Still think our religions are weak?:wave:
 
I pity the hindu converts too, thats a sign of weakness in your religion

If our religion was weak then like the whole of Middle East , Central Asia and North Africa , we too would have converted to Islam en masse. However, despite centuries of Muslim rule, most of the sub-continent remained Hindu and still does to this day. Just like Spain. Muslim percentage has only increased somewhat now due to the higher birth rates.
 
Ah, yes. The great Communists lecturing us on human rights.



Are you retarded? I never said the Prophet was a socialist, he was a Prophet not capitalist, socialist, communist, or any other modern term. I said what did the Islamic state fall under? Most historians say it was a form of socialism, the state established by Prophet Muhammad PBUH was called the Medinan welfare state, what came after him is has nothing to do with him but even the successor states were socialist rather than capitalist in nature.

Why would I debate about socialism on a communist website? I have said it like five times already socialism is not equal to communism yet you want be to go to a commie site and talk about socialism. I don't care what commies think at all nor will I waste my time with them, communism is a failed ideology, it had its chance and it failed miserably. Millions dead and nothing left to show for it.

and islam killed 270 million+ to 1 billion in its entire existence lol . Seems you are retarded. Welfare state lol? for whom a few chosen of his and his racist ideology .. If you understand socialism is intermediate stage to communism and is part of the communist implementation . Part of it .Read Marx or Lenin's work's properly. At in communist Russia ,everybody had a home.No poverty .Free transportation. Good education ,sports facilities,free electricity ,low inflation and maybe a private car also if you have the required savings . A decent lifestyle,stability .The gap between highest income and lowest income 6 to 1 in Communist Russia . Show me how many islamic nations have it lol. The only thing I see in islam and most islamic nations is poverty,pain ,brutal exploitation,racism of arabs,sectarian infighting and hate for others . Socialism has no place for racism,sex slavery and all this crap.

@vostok can give you an idea about life in a socialist state.

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Yet “zakat” is at most a form tax, and more commonly a voluntary act of charity, not a collectivization of wealth by a central authority. According to scholars John Thomas Cummings, Hossein Askari and Ahmad Mustafa (who co-authored the academic paper, “Islam and Modern Economic Change”) “zakat is primarily a voluntary act of piety and a far cry from what most modern-day taxpayers experience when confronted with increased income levies or complicated regulations.” Moreover, they add, “there is no particular Islamic preference for Marxist emphasis on economic planning over market forces.”

Indeed, when Prophet Muhammad (a merchant himself) was asked to fix the prices in the market because some were selling goods too dearly, he refused and said, “Only Allah governs the market.” It wouldn’t be too far-fetched to see a parallel here with Adam Smith’s “invisible hand.” The Prophet also has many sayings cherishing trade, profit-making, and the beauties of life. “Muhammad,” as Rodinson put it simply, “was not a socialist.”
Is Islam a socialist religion? - MUSTAFA AKYOL

Socialism, properly understood as a non-monetary, non-market society based on the common ownership and democratic control of the means of production, and islam have nothing in common.

Islam and socialism | The Socialist Party of Great Britain
 
I believe in God but I do not believe in harry potter, then there are some who believe in other stuff like aliens controlling the world like our friend isro222 I don't believe in such things but have no problem with him believing in it.
Underlining commonality is all are delusional :D
 
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