AfrazulMandal
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When?JeM has attacked the Pakistani State in the past. In the long run they are a liability.
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When?JeM has attacked the Pakistani State in the past. In the long run they are a liability.
. No one on this forum could have said it better than you.Want a towel?
Yes, I remember someone saying that at Asal Uttar.
Idiot.
The Indian kill count is due to the competence of ISPR.
The Pakistani kill count is due to the incompetence of ISPR.
Get your concepts clear before irritating these good people.
That's why, on another thread, another forum, I advised my friends to wait until the ISPR confirms that a Pakistani pilot was killed in action. Some people believe in all or nothing.
Swamped! Posting in between resolving engineering issues at workSeriously, please look at the other posts; what are you doing here?
Ask NY Times, Washington post, CNN, BBC, Aljazeera
What do you think happened?Want a towel?
Yes, I remember someone saying that at Asal Uttar.
Idiot.
The Indian kill count is due to the competence of ISPR.
The Pakistani kill count is due to the incompetence of ISPR.
Get your concepts clear before irritating these good people.
That's why, on another thread, another forum, I advised my friends to wait until the ISPR confirms that a Pakistani pilot was killed in action. Some people believe in all or nothing.
Swamped! Posting in between resolving engineering issues at work
You mean the 44 CRPF jawans killed by a vehicle born IED driven by a suicide bomber? Yes, we accepted the JeM claim that they had done it, and bombed their camp. What did you want 'shown for it'?
No, our country's existence revolves around whatever the ISPR 'literally' says. I am glad you don't step back and look at this thread. It would be cruel.
And, as you have correctly assumed was the Pakistani understanding of the situation, nobody from the Indian military or political leadership ever suspected that there might be a tit-for-tat reaction.
DON'T step back.
Hahaha. done sirYou bad boy.
Now hand over the towel. YOU are not Krishna, these respectable gentlemen are NOT gopis.
What do you think happened?
How many Indian and Pak aircraft were lost?
They're going to release it at the time of the Indian elections for maximum impact.Since PAF claims they shot down two IAF jets and completely rubbished that a F16 went down...the gun footage is only available with PAF...IAF dont have any proof as their jets were destroyed in action...if PAF released the footage of its jet taking down IAF jets...its game over for modi...will they ever release that footage is the million dollar question and in the process prove without an iota of doubt andnail IAF...until something like that happens neither side can be believed.
Accha besh.Ask me a fortnight later. When all the fanboys have gone home. Nobody is listening to anybody today.
As far as the IAF is concerned, I've posted elsewhere that the Balakot attack was well planned. The IAF ran decoy sorties to the south, pulled in PAF CAP's to engage those sorties, understood PAF response times to the target location and that peacetime RoE's would likely not include a kinetic engagement. Everything went to plan bar the actual target information being bad.Yes, chief. Hope you don't mind my escaping the lunatic asylum that is the Indian media at work and taking refuge in this. Needed some fresh air.
Did you dismantle JeM? No
Did you stop "Pakistans support of JeM"? No
Did you prevent further violence from Kashmiri civillians? No
At least ISPR provides evidence in a calm manner, rather than some panicked sweaty general waving around a missile fragment on tv and making ridiculous fairy tales
As for not expecting payback, then you just summed up exactly why they are incompetent therefore proving the point of my original post
thank you
As far as the IAF is concerned, I've posted elsewhere that the Balakot attack was well planned. The IAF ran decoy sorties to the south, pulled in PAF CAP's to engage those sorties, understood PAF response times to the target location and that peacetime RoE's would likely not include a kinetic engagement. Everything went to plan bar the actual target information being bad.
Now, assuming that some sort of massive cover-up and sanitizing the attack site by Pakistan does not come to light, the question for India should be why their intelligence was so poor (some international and Pakistani sources are stating that the JeM training camps in and around Balakot were wrapped up a long time ago). To undertake a massive risk in carrying out these strikes, not to mention the all but guaranteed military escalation (though on the latter there is some debate on whether India genuinely expected Pakistan to not respond), and not have a confirmed target points to very poor decision making and/or intelligence analysis.
we will see...i have great belief that some thing this big cannot be buried for too long...too many people on both sides involved.They're going to release it at the time of the Indian elections for maximum impact.