How dare they attack Pakistan

[Shehryar Ashraf]

i feel a sudden wave of neutrality sweeping over. turns out that I feel neutral to them attacking pakistan.

 

[Wood]

It is unlikely that India has anything to do with the conflict between Pakistan and Taliban. India has no consulates in Afghanistan and does not recognize Taliban

 

[khansaheeb]

No one is Nuking Afghanistan, especially Pakistan, no one will annihilate Afghanistan.
It will never happen, It would tear Pakistan apart.

We would get 30 million Afghan refugees if that happened.

 

[Zhukov]

We dont accept strategic blunders commited during 80s and 90s redicalizing our youth to achieve stupid foreign policy goals and appease our masters. And revisit our approach toward our neighbors and borders.

Instead Keep cooking a new theory everyday wrapped in Patriotism or Religion coating depending on the situation and Audience.

When will our people learn. The way our Jawans are being targeted every day in Balochistan and KPK.Meanwhile Rawalpindi elites are busy doing political manuvers creating mass hate among people. Its making me angry not sad. Jawans and officers are giving their lives for what? for elites to make more songs and gain sympathy to make more room for their power games?

FC aur Army ke jawan ke khuun ki koi qeemat nahi?
Taliban defenders tell me if Taliban are so weak and unstable threatened by the same forces that are targetting Pakistan then why dont they ask our help officially? This is all Bu**Sh** excuses and Consporacy theories. Make a buffer zone inside Afghanistan like Turkey did in Kurdish areas of Syria. Populate those area with Pakistani Tribals. Rule those areas with iron fist. Let the world cry. If you cant do that then make peace with India Iran and Afghanis. Our soldiers are not cannon fodder.
Pakistanis for God sake raise your voices

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

Fence cant do much Until Pak recognize IEA

Army is taken the war on terror outside population Successfully

Now is time to take it outside Pak Borders by going right into their main holds and camps across border

 

[Arsalan345]

Lol...how about just stfu discussing about me and see throught the points I gave and debunk them instead.. perhaps u dont know IEA is not as unified as it used to be under mullah omar.its offshoots ruling the FATA border area do have soft corner for ttp.. that doesn't translate into their leaderships stance...(else we wouldnt have had a diplomatic setup with them) NDS still penetrates to a level in their bureaucracy and forces as they dont have a system of background checks.you cant bury the truth by calling out names..stay frustrated ...i dont care much what you think when our state knows what they need to do

I am not in the mood to argue. I mean, the truth hurts. Anyway, best of luck with your good taliban bad taliban ideology. Soldiers are more important than Talibans.

 

[Shaheen123]

Whether through the Armed Forces or otherwise - my question to everyone is:

What exactly are you fighting to defend?

Ayub, Yahya, Zia, Musharraf and now Bajwa - we have an institution that consistently grooms leadership that treats the constitution of Pakistan like toilet paper. Conspires, blackmails and manipulates elections, politicians & parties and governments to achieve its own ends while Pakistanis continue to suffer.

Pakistan gets one (admittedly flawed and definitely not perfect) honest and sincere Prime Minister in Imran Khan and he isn’t even allowed to complete his term and the Army leadership is working to completely sideline him and his party, whilst corrupt criminals in the PMLN & PPP have been given chance after chance and Establishment support for decades and are now in an alliance together to provide the Army leadership with a facade while they destroy Imran Khan and the PTI.

So, again, what are you fighting for? Continued corruption, inequality and lack of justice and rule of law for the elite, wealthy and powerful?

If/when the PTI is sidelined, whether through more defections, disqualification through ECP over trumped up charges or rigged elections - every Pakistani should know that their vote doesn’t count and is useless. The Army leadership basically decides who to bring to power and for how long. They prefer corrupt criminals because corrupt criminals have issues they can be blackmailed over and controlled through.

I could give less of a **** about the various political parties and some elements of the military running the country to the ground but we should never compromise on our sovereignty and homeland. Blood was shed to make Pakistan's borders both on east and west, tremendous time and effort was spent by the Muslims of British India to carve out a homeland for south asian muslims. Are you seriously going to throw all the sacrifices people like Jinnah made out the window? No matter what political party is in power, we should always defend our homeland, unless you want to end up bowing down to ethno-religious barbarians on one side and rabid hindu zionists on the other side. Just look at the state of kashmiris to see what would happen if you decide not to fight.

 

[TNT]

No i will never go to the afghan border and fight, why should i? Lumber 1 gets paid, enjoy every facility, cantts, businesses, properties and then i have to go and die? Wth are they for?
Also if anyone is eager to fight "indian proxy" then why not grow some balls and go fight india directly??? Oh yeah i forgot our lumber 1 only wants peace with india but bomb poor muslim children in Afghanistan under the guise of indian proxies.
At this point, Afghanistan seems to be more independent than Pakistan.

 

[TheSolution]

Morale and faith in the leadership is at an all time low.

Finding volunteers will be difficult.

Afghanistan's ideology has a high chance to spread into Pakistan and spark a civil war, things don't look good for Pakistan

If establishment doesn't put down their halwa poory right this moment and focus on the issue at hand with practical solutions, things are only going to get worse

 

[TNT]

Morale and faith in the leadership is at an all time low.

Finding volunteers will be difficult.

Afghanistan's ideology has a high chance to spread into Pakistan and spark a civil war, things don't look good for Pakistan

If establishment doesn't put down their halwa poory right this moment and focus on the issue at hand with practical solutions, things are only going to get worse

You are right, for the first time i see majority pashtuns saying it wouldve been better to be part of independent Afghanistan than be part of a slave Pakistan. Its amazing how quickly the tables have turned. As usual our puppet establishment is making another blunder at this crucial time by attacking afghan territory and increasing tension. This all is done to create excuses for US bases in Pakistan but this will backfire immensely. These slave generals would rather risk breaking Pakistan than saying no to their master.

 

[ARMalik]

It is a mess created by the Army Generals. Let them clean it up. It is NOT a problem of Pakistan Citizens.

 

[TheSolution]

You are right, for the first time i see majority pashtuns saying it wouldve been better to be part of independent Afghanistan than be part of a slave Pakistan. Its amazing how quickly the tables have turned. As usual our puppet establishment is making another blunder at this crucial time by attacking afghan territory and increasing tension. This all is done to create excuses for US bases in Pakistan but this will backfire immensely. These slave generals would rather risk breaking Pakistan than saying no to their master.

This is exactly what I was hinting at but I didn't explicitly mention it before someone claims me to be inciting ethnic tensions.

Establishment should consider themselves lucky that IK (Pakhtun) is not a power hungry egotistical person, but rather a patriot. The fact that he is unting the nation by constantly calling upon Pakistan and Pakistanis, as well as the mass support of the whole country, allows the country to be held together by a thread. Otherwise they would've felt way more alienated and we might have even seen protests for independence.

If he was Bhutto, civil war would've started already...

 

[kazaki]

For decades no enemy has dared to cross Pakistan's borders and attack us directly. How dare these Indian sponsored terrorists attack Pakistan. People of Pakistan are boiling in anger and most want to do something about it. Would you offer your services to fight this enemy?

Very true

 

[RescueRanger]

the poll has only two options - a rather simplified poll for a very complex geo strategic problem.