How China is desperate to Complete Pakistan’s Nuclear triad

[Chinese-Dragon]

Like I said yesterday, if I were you, I would seek help.

I love how you guys resort to personal attacks after only 2 posts.

Also did we make the Indian President say that India was a superpower in 2012? Nope. He said it on his own.

On the other hand, we are only a developing country, if you divide $11 trillion by a population of over 1+ billion you'll see we have a very low per capita income, not enough to be classified as a developed country, let alone a superpower.

There are only two superpowers in this world, America (by facts), and India (by claims).

Only if fairness was the criteria for a seat at the high table, there wouldn't even be a P5. Forget NPT.

Hmm, is that why Modi came to China and begged us to let them into the P5?

Because it is "so unfair" that India can't resist having that power for themselves?

Did you even read about the author of the book before yapping?

Like I said, you only need to use google (or whatever you guys are allowed to use in your country) for your country's glorious record in propping up pariah states through clandestine activities. But then, I know you know that already.

As they say, you can't wake up somebody who is only pretending to be asleep.

Did YOU even read it? Or the article itself?

This is literally the first line of the article: "A new book alleges..."

And sure, I can use Google for English-language searches (Baidu for Chinese-language searches). So ask me what to type in, in order to see this so called "hard proof" and I'll do it and see if you're right. Then maybe you can take this "hard proof" to the NPT and the NSG and get us kicked off the high table, wouldn't that be epic for you guys!

 

[kadamba-warrior]

I love how you guys resort to personal attacks after only 2 posts.

It was NOT a personal attack, it was an honest observation looking at you bring Kalam's India and superpower discussion to argue about China's Nuclear proliferation. Are you sure, your another account is not @RisingShiningSuperpower ?

Also did we make the Indian President say that India was a superpower in 2012? Nope. He said it on his own.

We are only a developing country, if you divide $11 trillion by a population of over 1+ billion you'll see we have a very low per capita income, not enough to be classified as a developed country, let alone a superpower.

There are only two superpowers in this world, America (by facts), and India (by claims).

You have absolutely nothing to talk about, except for a couple of funny sounding arguments like these, do you? Let me guess the next topic that you will bring in this discussion. Forward policy by Nehru?

Did YOU even read it? Or the article itself?

This is literally the first line of the article: "A new book alleges..."

Dude, seriously do you have comprehension problems? Didn't I ask you to read about the author of the book itself?

You keep harping back to the article, like a broken record.

And sure, I can use Google for English-language searches (Baidu for Chinese-language searches). So ask me what to type in, in order to see this so called "hard proof" and I'll do it and see if you're right. Then maybe you can take this "hard proof" to the NPT and the NSG and get us kicked off the high table, wouldn't that be epic for you guys!

Now that makes it amply clear who I am arguing with here.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It was NOT a personal attack, it was an honest observation looking at you bring Kalam's India and superpower discussion to argue about China's Nuclear proliferation. Are you sure, your another account is not @RisingShiningSuperpower ?



You have absolutely nothing to talk about, except for a couple of funny sounding arguments like these, do you? Let me guess the next topic that you will bring in this discussion. Forward policy by Nehru?



Dude, seriously do you have comprehension problems? Didn't I ask you to read about the author of the book itself?

You keep harping back to the article, like a broken record.



Now that makes it amply clear who I am arguing with here.

You do know the difference between an "allegation" and "hard proof" right?

Again, the first line of the article you posted: "A new book alleges..."

So do you have any hard proof or are you just going to keep waffling and crying about something or the other?

 

[kadamba-warrior]

You do know the difference between an "allegation" and "hard proof" right?

Again, the first line of the article you posted: "A new book alleges..."

So do you have any hard proof or are you just going to keep waffling and crying about something or the other?

You are really tiring me out with your rather unlettered, childishly repetitive questions, replete with more emoticons than any substance.

But if you were really looking for some irrefutable proof that would stand finger print tests and DNA analysis, I will have to excuse myself from this discussion then.

You need help.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You are really tiring me out with your rather unlettered, childishly repetitive questions, replete with more emoticons than any substance.

But if you were really looking for some irrefutable proof that would stand finger print tests and DNA analysis, I will have to excuse myself from this discussion then.

You need help.

That is a lot of crying from you, all to just end up agreeing entirely with what I said?

So what was the point of all that crying in the first place?

There is no proof that China helped Pakistan gain nuclear weapons.

Apparently even you agree with that now.

 

[kala]

In event of nuclear war with pakistan the Indian response will not only target pakistan but china and 2 saudi cities also.
It doesn't matter either India is hit with 300-400 pakistani nukes or 1000 chinese nukes Indian state wont be functioning either way so chinese have themselves put them in India pak nuke equation by first giving blue print of chinese nukes plus ballistic missiles and then these nuke capable submarines.
India will surely hit back at pakistan with 100-200+ nukes and chinese with 200-300+ nukes to make sure pakistan is erased from world and chinese lost all their urban economic muscle.

 

[Viper0011.]

It did for delivery systems.
it went as far as violating MTCR to do so.

Indian MTCR (mean time between crappy responses???). Because in the West, I've not heard it and nor have others, including the UN.....it must be an "Indian thing"

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

In event of nuclear war with pakistan the Indian response will not only target pakistan but china and 2 saudi cities also.
It doesn't matter either India is hit with 300-400 pakistani nukes or 1000 chinese nukes Indian state wont be functioning either way so chinese have themselves put them in India pak nuke equation by first giving blue print of chinese nukes plus ballistic missiles and then these nuke capable submarines.
India will surely hit back at pakistan with 100-200+ nukes and chinese with 200-300+ nukes to make sure pakistan is erased from world and chinese lost all their urban economic muscle.

LOL.

IF the Chinese leadership believed that India would fire at China in the event of an India-Pakistan nuclear war, then they would have no option but to conduct pre-emptive strikes as soon as the idea of a India-Pakistan nuclear war became a possibility. In order to destroy as many Indian nukes as possible before they are launched.

The result would be Pakistan and China both coordinating a strike that would destroy the vast majority of India's nuclear weapons (their seaborne deterrent is not operational yet) before they even left the ground.

Sure there would be some collateral damage in both Pakistan and China, but India would cease to exist as a civilization.

Not to mention, India doesn't even have thermonuclear weapons. India's entire nuclear arsenal is estimated at only 1 megaton total. Mostly comprised of 20 kt fission bombs.

Whereas even ONE SINGLE Chinese thermonuclear warhead has an explosive power of 4 megatons. So one single Chinese nuke has more explosive power than India's ENTIRE arsenal, by quite a big margin.

 

[salarsikander]

In event of nuclear war with pakistan the Indian response will not only target pakistan but china and 2 saudi cities also.
It doesn't matter either India is hit with 300-400 pakistani nukes or 1000 chinese nukes Indian state wont be functioning either way so chinese have themselves put them in India pak nuke equation by first giving blue print of chinese nukes plus ballistic missiles and then these nuke capable submarines.
India will surely hit back at pakistan with 100-200+ nukes and chinese with 200-300+ nukes to make sure pakistan is erased from world and chinese lost all their urban economic muscle.

Hi,

Why include Saudia in equation?

 

[Beta-Fighter]

That is a lot of crying from you, all to just end up agreeing entirely with what I said?

So what was the point of all that crying in the first place?

There is no proof that China helped Pakistan gain nuclear weapons.

Apparently even you agree with that now.

Libya Bomb design and China magnetic rings, both are proof , sound any bell?

Didn't your country told you about this biggest lie, World laugh at china when China especially when US shown PIC and Chinese present caught lying.... lol

CNS - China's Nuclear Exports and Assistance to Pakistan


I think you cant open that link, you are in jail .

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Libya Bomb design and China magnetic rings, both are proof , sound any bell?

Didn't your country told you about this biggest lie, World laugh at china when China especially when US shown PIC and Chinese present caught lying.... lol

LOL and where is your proof?

We are one of the 5 NPT-recognized nuclear powers, same as the 5 permanent members of the UNSC.

Whereas India is not recognized by the NPT, in the same class as North Korea.

 

[Dash]

LOL and where is your proof?

We are one of the 5 NPT-recognized nuclear powers, same as the 5 permanent members of the UNSC.

Whereas India is not recognized by the NPT, in the same class as North Korea.

That's why you support north Korea.

 

[kala]

LOL.

IF the Chinese leadership believed that India would fire at China in the event of an India-Pakistan nuclear war, then they would have no option but to conduct pre-emptive strikes as soon as the idea of a India-Pakistan nuclear war became a possibility. In order to destroy as many Indian nukes as possible before they are launched.

The result would be Pakistan and China both coordinating a strike that would destroy the vast majority of India's nuclear weapons (their seaborne deterrent is not operational yet) before they even left the ground.

Sure there would be some collateral damage in both Pakistan and China, but India would cease to exist as a civilization.

Not to mention, India doesn't even have thermonuclear weapons. India's entire nuclear arsenal is estimated at only 1 megaton total. Mostly comprised of 20 kt fission bombs.

Whereas even ONE SINGLE Chinese thermonuclear warhead has an explosive power of 4 megatons. So one single Chinese nuke has more explosive power than India's ENTIRE arsenal, by quite a big margin.

India has no first use policy against only non nuclear states, why do you think India won't do pre emptive strike against pakistan and china?
Trust me there won't be any winners, and if you think India has limited nuclear capability then you are living in fool's paradise, India has good solid indigenous nuke tech remember India first exploded nukes in 1974 and also with recent nuke deals with tech. flowing from all developed countries and also uranium imports<India just found plenty of uranium at home also>.
India has thermo nuke and also 300 kt nuke warheads our Agnis can take 1000-3000 kg warheads which only means bigger warheads also with nuke tech.

A single hit on three gorgeous dam will flatten vast lands of china so china is very very vulnerable no collateral damage but it will be total damage, if Indian civilization ceases to exits we will make sure chinese civilization is reduced to zero.

Hi,

Why include Saudia in equation?

saudi not only sponsors of pakistan but also the ideological head of pakistani sunni fanatics. Also
hit where it hurts most to muslims Makkah Madina which pakistani worships wont be spared if Indian civilization is bombed.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

India has no first use policy against only non nuclear states, why do you think India won't do pre emptive strike against pakistan and china?
Trust me there won't be any winners, and if you think India has limited nuclear capability then you are living in fool's paradise, India has good solid indigenous nuke tech remember India first exploded nukes in 1974 and also with recent nuke deals with tech. flowing from all developed countries and also uranium<India just found plenty of uranium at home also>.
India has thermo nuke and also 300 kt nuke warheads our Agnis can take 1000-3000 kg warheads which only means bigger warheads also with nuke tech.

A single hit on three gorgeous dam will flatten vast lands of china so china is very very vulnerable no collateral damage bit total damage, if Indian civilization ceases to exits we will make sure chinese civilization is reduced to zero.

Give me a break, all the explosion yields of India's nuclear tests are a matter of official record (such explosions are easily measured) and they don't have anything beyond the most basic fission bombs.

Again even one single Chinese thermonuclear warhead is 4 megatons. One single Chinese nuke has more explosive power than India's entire arsenal.

Hell even Pakistan has a signficantly larger nuclear arsenal than India does. India has the smallest arsenal and they have to split it two ways. LOL.

 

[Beta-Fighter]

That is a lot of crying from you, all to just end up agreeing entirely with what I said?

So what was the point of all that crying in the first place?

There is no proof that China helped Pakistan gain nuclear weapons.

Apparently even you agree with that now.

CNS - China's Nuclear Exports and Assistance to Pakistan
CNS - China's Nuclear Exports and Assistance to Pakistan - Statements and Developments
http://fas.org/irp/congress/1996_cr/s960207b.htm


Their are enough proof , that china has to beg US not to put sanctions , we will comply in future.

Nuclear bomb design