How can Pakistan Navy defend itself from Brahmos cruse missile ?

[Danish saleem]

i think, brahmos maximum range is around 300Km, for firing it Indian ships have to reach within the radius of 300Km of PN ships, and have to Face JF-17's before tracking and firing the Missile, and also remember our RAAD missile have a range of 350 KM and they will be fired from Air. and i dont think Indian navy have a capability to track RAAD or hit the Plane flying over 350Km away.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

i think, brahmos maximum range is around 300Km, for firing it Indian ships have to reach within the radius of 300Km of PN ships, and have to Face JF-17's before tracking and firing the Missile, and also remember our RAAD missile have a range of 350 KM and they will be fired from Air. and i dont think Indian navy have a capability to track RAAD or hit the Plane flying over 350Km away.

1- Will PN be in docks in war times, and will not come in open waters. ?
2- RAAD is a subsonic missile, do you think that IN will not be having there SAM ready for it, and what make you think IN radar cannot track RAAD ?
3- Check what Global players think BRAMOS actual range could be.
4- A single S400 battery along the Gujarat coast is good enough to track and sanitize complete Air Cover JF17 thinking to provide to PN.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

LACM can/will be adapted into AShM, thus providing PNS with range advantage. It is really question of time now.
Also, enhanced ECM will help netuarlise any defensive measure by the belligerent hegemon.

 

[GiG]

Pakistan NAVY can effectively tackle any threats posed by brahmos in the following ways
Pakistan navy first job is to defend the exclusive economic zone and country seaports
Second Job is to deter the enemy for taking any offensive action against Pakistan see assets
I will briefly explain how the navy will achieve this
1)Defense of exclusive economic zone and seaport
-Pakistan Exclusive Economic Zone extends to 350 nautical miles which can be defend against on sea targets using the new AZB missile(Supposedly Yj-62) with range of 400 km+ ,ZD K-3 will provide target acquisition and missile lock to AZB missile
-Zulficar and Tariq class frigates will be used to patrol sea lane as far as 100 nautical miles from shore for ASW operations and intrusion prevention in case of target Detection is failed by ZD K-3
-P-3 will be used for ASW operations with in the Pakistan territory
2)Offensive operation
-Offensive operation against enemy will be conducted by
1)Agosta 90 B Submarines (Immune from brahoms)
2)Jf 17/Mirage 5/3 with exocet and C0802 (Immune from brahoms)
3)Azmat Class Craft will be used to lauch surprise attack with in enemy territory (The tactic will be quickly enter in in war zone launch a C 802 and leave the war zone ,same tactic used by US artillery in first gulf war) Enemy can see the Attackers but when they start to counter attack the azmat class will be out of range

While many other possible scenarios can be drawn from current capabilities of Pakistan navy but the current scenario is one the most effective and raelistic

 

[khanmubashir]

It is known that India already develop Brahmos supersonic cruse missile for its Navy and also develop a version for its air-force .How can Pakistan Navy defend with its current arsenal and what will be the future requirement to defend itself from both air launch and ship launch Brahmos cruse Missile .here is a relevant thread regrading how USN can defend Brahmos
How to defend Brahmos?- American analysis.

sea variant of hq9 and long ranger sensors + weapons which can detect and destroy indian ships before they can brings ours in brhamos range

 

[Danish saleem]

1- Will PN be in docks in war times, and will not come in open waters. ?
2- RAAD is a subsonic missile, do you think that IN will not be having there SAM ready for it, and what make you think IN radar cannot track RAAD ?
3- Check what Global players think BRAMOS actual range could be.
4- A single S400 battery along the Gujarat coast is good enough to track and sanitize complete Air Cover JF17 thinking to provide to PN.

bro,

so u think your ships will fire the missiles sitting in their docks, for doing that they have to came in sea, and also have to face our Subs as well, and S400 not able to hit the cruise Missiles, which is capable of low attitude flying. and i hope you understand what is the characteristics of cruise Missile.

 

[asif_hussain]

Pakistani Navy seriously lacks any decent SAM they are using almost half a century old ships now only the refurbished OHP class is half a decent ship rest are almost floating targets they maybe okay for patrols in sea in times of peace but without a credible 24/7 air support and sam coverage they are no match for IN which is fielding AESA radars multi layered defence and one of the most potent sea skimming hypersonic ASHM.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Yes they can if they can get their hands on Barak 8 or the SeaRAM. Both of them are specifically designed to meet threats like the BhraMos. And I don't think CHinese have a reliable system to do this.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

bro,

so u think your ships will fire the missiles sitting in their docks, for doing that they have to came in sea, and also have to face our Subs as well, and S400 not able to hit the cruise Missiles, which is capable of low attitude flying. and i hope you understand what is the characteristics of cruise Missile.

I stated s400 to sanitiz jf17, and who said low altitude slow moving cruise cannot b tracked and brought down by systems like s400 and spiders, bark 8 ?
And, what make you think, PN in offensive formation will not be having anti sub system scanning clearing the surrounding waters well within time ?
And if PN will be doing that, what make IN stop doing the same, when IN has system like P8I and ASW ship fleets.

 

[nomi007]

SAME
same how can Indian navy defend itself from
CX-1 Missile Systems
&
DF-26

 

[MKC]

I stated s400 to sanitiz jf17, and who said low altitude slow moving cruise cannot b tracked and brought down by systems like s400 and spiders, bark 8 ?
And, what make you think, PN in offensive formation will not be having anti sub system scanning clearing the surrounding waters well within time ?
And if PN will be doing that, what make IN stop doing the same, when IN has system like P8I and ASW ship fleets.

How will we able to track low flying Ra'ad with AESA, don't think about countering it with Barak 8 or AK630?
Which will be launched by low flying 4.75G JF-17 which can't be countered by Su-30MKI or S-400.
PN has Ship launched & air-launched Exocet which we don't have Harpoon, Sizzler, Exocet & BrahMos.
How will IN counter Babur which has 750 km range launched from S-20 that too is low flying AShM, does matter these hasn't come till now, while IN will have Scorpenes you know which is better.
P8I won't come in front of JF-17, even P8I can't track S-20s.
You know IN ASW ship also won't come in front of 4.75G JF17.
Do you know about surprise power of PN Azmat class stealth ships or sorry these don't have blue water or self-defence capability but will be defended by JF17 & Replenishment Ships with increase their range.

 

[Akasa]

Yes they can if they can get their hands on Barak 8 or the SeaRAM. Both of them are specifically designed to meet threats like the BhraMos. And I don't think CHinese have a reliable system to do this.

The Chinese are using the HHQ-10, which operates in a similar fashion to the SeaRAM system to bring down supersonic cruise missiles. It is an infrared-homing (augmented with RF guidance) fire-and-forget weapon.

For long-range interception, the HHQ-16/B/G can be used for low-flying targets:

The last line of defense would be the Type 1130 CIWS, which has a maximum firing rate of 9000-11000 rounds per minute. According to defense reports, it can intercept missiles traveling up to Mach 4 and with a 96% success rate.

Of course, there are numerous defense measures under development as well, such as the FM-3000 SAM:

Potential countermeasures may even include laser, of which the Chinese have tested several models (called the Low Altitude Guard II):

 

[BABA AGHORI]

How will we able to track low flying Ra'ad with AESA, don't think about countering it with Barak 8 or AK630?
Which will be launched by low flying 4.75G JF-17 which can't be countered by Su-30MKI or S-400.
PN has Ship launched & air-launched Exocet which we don't have Harpoon, Sizzler, Exocet & BrahMos.
How will IN counter Babur which has 750 km range launched from S-20 that too is low flying AShM, does matter these hasn't come till now, while IN will have Scorpenes you know which is better.
P8I won't come in front of JF-17, even P8I can't track S-20s.
You know IN ASW ship also won't come in front of 4.75G JF17.
Do you know about surprise power of PN Azmat class stealth ships or sorry these don't have blue water or self-defence capability but will be defended by JF17 & Replenishment Ships with increase their range.

epic.. 4.75 generation completes your post mate...

 

[masud]

adding more and more most advanced submarin............
adding more and more all round capability both offencive and defencive weapons in a ship and the size of this ship as small ship as possible................

 

[randomradio]

i think, brahmos maximum range is around 300Km, for firing it Indian ships have to reach within the radius of 300Km of PN ships, and have to Face JF-17's before tracking and firing the Missile, and also remember our RAAD missile have a range of 350 KM and they will be fired from Air. and i dont think Indian navy have a capability to track RAAD or hit the Plane flying over 350Km away.

Brahmos's range is 600Km. It is software governed and will soon be removed because we are not part of MTCR.