How about giving all the islands to Brunei?

[Snomannen]

The military hardliners, the anti-commies hardliners, spearheaded the invasion because they believed that the left wing extremist party Fretillin was considered a threat to Indonesia and to the integration of Indonesia as it may spark the secessionist movement inside the country. Meanwhile, the growing civil war between Fretillin and other political group have caused fear to the Indonesian government at that time, that the chaos could spread accross the border and affect indonesian province of NTT.

Mind if I ask why did you call East Timorese "your brother"?

Because East Timor and Macau have the similar historical background.

 

[nufix]

Hehe ... a wise & smart Sultan.

Well, he should be smart and play it smart, he only has 420.000 heads and around 10.000 men to protect his throne. Malaysia would happily push Brunei to the sea in order to completely dominate northern Borneo. Brunei doesn't stand any chance against Malaysia alone and the only "Malaysia-hating" country around is Indonesia.

Because East Timor and Macau have the similar historical background.

I see

 

[cnleio]

Well, he should be smart and play it smart, he only has 420.000 heads and around 10.000 men to protect his throne. Malaysia would happily push Brunei to the sea in order to completely dominate northern Borneo. Brunei doesn't stand any chance against Malaysia alone and the only "Malaysia-hating" country around is Indonesia.

Yes, u got my point. He is a wise Lord.

 

[DarkElf]

Mind if I ask why did you invaded East Timor -our brother?

Soeharto fancy some home made Egg tart / dàntà and the closest source is East Timor

 

[Wahhab2701]

Oh really, so u mean PLAN is far stronger than US seven fleet ??

Ah, PLAN is capable to crush your inexperience Navy in few hours, but VN army is different, even US seven fleet got badly damaged by VN, dude

How do you know us 7h fleet will come to rescue you in case you make hassle with china? What different can vn navy will make against china? Do you seriously think that few midget submarine will give china a big headache? Tell me. What kind of industry do you have to sustain a prolong war with china? Or may be you think that war fought only with military power?

Appreciate if you can provide a source that vn inflicted a bad damage to us 7th fleet.

 

[Viet]

Looks like some idiot forget that Vietnam also claim all of your water

not correct. For instance VN does not claim Scarborough shoal.

Brunei is a tiny lovely country, they have the same religion with Indonesia unlike that poor East Timor (which is our [Macau] brother)~ Besides the two countries are separated by Malaysia, therefore as long as Malaysian don't get high, Brunei is still safe~

give all the islands to Vietnam. We know how to run an Empire.

 

[Snomannen]

not correct. For instance VN does not claim Scarborough shoal.

give all the islands to Vietnam. We know how to run an Empire.

Hey no need to care about the detail.

Okay, the title of the Second Empire of Vietnam shall be granted, but this time the true ruler has to be China, not Japan~

Soeharto fancy some home made Egg tart / dàntà and the closest source is East Timor

Nah he is too fat for Egg tart, not health for him. (Well he has become dust anyway)

 

[Viet]

Hey no need to care about the detail.
Okay, the title of the Second Empire of Vietnam shall be granted, but this time the true ruler has to be China, not Japan~

you are funny. I wonder how many Chinese are obsessed by the idea of returning to Vietnam?

Look, China is big, mighty, rich and populous. You are on your path to become a superpower as you´re used to be. You can buy half of the world, you dominate the trade, you landed on the moon. You are seen as the big bully, the mighty dragon, the world fears before you. The Japanese are sleepless, so the Americans. Even luxury shop owners in German big cities rely on Chinese customers. More and more German kids learn Mandarin.

What do you want with Vietnam, a small and poor country?

 

[Dubious]

or we can do none of that, and keep expand our navy until no one will be stupid enough to even think of challenging our claims.

How is your claim all the way south into SCS?

Not possible. Brunei is one of our closest friend. And to invade them, we have to cross through Malaysian territory (we have no land border with Brunei) thus will add unnecessary fighting with other countries.

And Kalimantan is owned by some Martian?!

Ha, Ha, Ha. Of all the Vietnamese that killed in the war why couldn't it have been you & why didn't your mother have an abortion while she's carrying you? Geez, at least learn something about the country.

Brunei is one of our most trusted allies in the regions. The Sultan himself is a member of our special forces!

He is a member of many squads...and he by far has not waged any war with your crazy freaks except prob Labuan and Labi with Malaysia...Mind you it was his ancestors who gave away land SULU and S.Philippines to his relatives formed the Sultanate...

can you stay on topic instead of resorting to insulting, you moron? my post was ironic, like this thread.
If Indonesia does not want to invade Brunei, then Vietnam will do.

Cant you 2 countries just fight your own wars instead of dragging other peaceful countries in?! WHAT CLAIMS has Vietnam who is far North over islands left and right?

When did two bottom of the barrel third world country become the world? At best we include Japan.

The US with recent actions is less and less likely to be involved. As time goes on and our military becomes even stronger, the US would not go into it. Which president is confident that losing 50-100 thousand men will result in reelection, nobody. There's also MAD.

South America don't care, Europe don't care, Russia rather we win or don't care, South Asia likes us, India won't go to war in our back yard. Africa got bigger problems.

So is there another world you are talking about?

In all honesty You sound like some blood thirsty person fighting others un necessarily...I mean you are up there in the North stay there stop spreading like a virus!!

Anyway, the Sultan of Brunei is also a honorary member of the Indonesian marines corps since 2003, an insult to Sultan will be an insult to the marines as well.

He is a honorary member of MANY squads...

Looks like some idiot forget that Vietnam also claim all of your water



Brunei is a tiny lovely country, they have the same religion with Indonesia unlike that poor East Timor (which is our [Macau] brother)~ Besides the two countries are separated by Malaysia, therefore as long as Malaysian don't get high, Brunei is still safe~

My GOD...you people really have not heard of KALIMANTAN...Get your geography right of the area before putting in bids of claims!

ASEAN nations should support VN's claim, if we can take all islands inside our claim, then VN promise that when ASEAN need $$$, we will capture Chinese oil tankers and force China to cough the money up

Vietnam needs to invest in their own infrastructure before throwing a net that far off...Even if you get the bid right, how will you control or stabilize it? Your own country is a mess with China!

 

[Dubious]

Well, he should be smart and play it smart, he only has 420.000 heads and around 10.000 men to protect his throne. Malaysia would happily push Brunei to the sea in order to completely dominate northern Borneo. Brunei doesn't stand any chance against Malaysia alone and the only "Malaysia-hating" country around is Indonesia.

Well Malaysia is slightly politically unstable they have their own political trash brewing will be awhile!

 

[Snomannen]

you are funny. I wonder how many Chinese are obsessed by the idea of returning to Vietnam?

Look, China is big, mighty, rich and populous. You are on your path to become a superpower as you´re used to be. You can buy half of the world, you dominate the trade, you landed on the moon. You are seen as the big bully, the mighty dragon, the world fears before you. The Japanese are sleepless, so the Americans. Even luxury shop owners in German big cities rely on Chinese customers. More and more German kids learn Mandarin.

What do you want with Vietnam, a small and poor country?

You don't understand how freaking generous China is.

Since he is becoming a freaking superpower in the world in several decades, he wants to share the great benefit to to his lovely fellow... directly~!! To do so he just wants you to pay a little small price... by changing your capital to Beijing~!! Isn't it great~?

Become part of China once again my friend!!@! Rejoin the freaking mighty Greater China!!! Together we are unstoppable and we shall show the world who is the real bloody BOSS. You are also not poor and small my friend!!@# You have arrrr... hummm... delicious spring roll and arrr... special one and only fish sauce...? and... arrrr crqzy hard working people... whatsoever, ALL HAIL GREATER CHINA!!$!

 

[nufix]

He is a member of many squads...and he by far has not waged any war with your crazy freaks except prob Labuan and Labi with Malaysia...Mind you it was his ancestors who gave away land CEBU and S.Philippines to his relatives formed the Sultanate...

He is a honorary member of MANY squads...

That's why he is influencing enough to convince Indonesia to defend him, he has many high ranking friends from almost of all level of Indonesian armed forces.

 

[Snomannen]

My GOD...you people really have not heard of KALIMANTAN...Get your geography right of the area before putting in bids of claims!

Do Brunei and Indonesia share the same border line in KALIMANTAN?

 

[Dubious]

Do Brunei and Indonesia share the same border line in KALIMANTAN?

Oops not border but they share enough to cross easily...through Sarawak

That's why he is influencing enough to convince Indonesia to defend him, he has many high ranking friends from almost of all level of Indonesian armed forces.

Yea...so far the only state in ASEAN not "DECLARING" WAR on other ASEAN states

Why cant you people just team up an be happy with ASEAN...why all the land greedy? Stabilize your own states and economies!

Indonesia has volcano, hurricane and political and economical problems all over

Malaysia has political instability and recently the economic crisis isnt getting better

Vietnam dude you people are still incapable of claiming anything much from the atrocities caused by USA once upon a time....and you wanna go for another war? You mad?

Philippines, dudes you have enough crap with Militants, island issues and also economically unstable..

As for HK, go deal with your differences with China 1st

As for China go built up ties with Macau, Taiwan, HK and god knows which other territory which is unstable...No point throwing your weight everywhere from Tibet to India to ASEAN territories!

That's why he is influencing enough to convince Indonesia to defend him, he has many high ranking friends from almost of all level of Indonesian armed forces.

With a country that small...he needs to insure he has backup when he calls for it

 

[Nike]

That's why he is influencing enough to convince Indonesia to defend him, he has many high ranking friends from almost of all level of Indonesian armed forces.

Well at least Indonesia has several backup voice in ASEAN, Indonesia can count on Cambodja and Brunei voice in some international forum gathering