How a tiny city-state became a military powerhouse with the best air force and navy in Southeast Asi

[Titikaka]

The almighty US airforce couldn’t penetrate Vietnam air defense but Singapore can? SG airforce is stronger? Well, if you think so, good luck. VN has an excellent relationship to Russia, the limitation in missile range is coded in software and could be opened to a full range of 2,500km.

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Vietnam have not enough power in air force and naval to attack Singapore, the same with Singapore, In SEA, their air-force are best but Vietnam is too far with them. Vietnam likely had tradition and tech in a war against enemy which bigger than them many times, Singapore obviously is not on the list who can defeat them. So no more things to discus in there.

 

[Kai Liu]

The almighty US airforce couldn’t penetrate Vietnam air defense but Singapore can? SG airforce is stronger? Well, if you think so, good luck. VN has an excellent relationship to Russia, the limitation in missile range is coded in software and could be opened to a full range of 2,500km.

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Are you kidding me? First learn some history who were taking care of your air defense during the vietnam war.. Also it was 50 years ago, with far less technology involved (no precision guided weapons, soldiers had to fight in the jungle, air force had to bomb aimlessly, except more fire power, basically no much different from WW2...)。 Also with soviet and China's support, your aircraft and missiles, anti-aircraft guns were not backward compare to America's then, but today you got nothing except 40 usable fighters, which is nothing in front of SG's 100 F-15/16s with their AEW&C capability, your air force will be slaughtered ... if you talk about relationship to Russia that Russia will violet the convention to sell you the >300km range missle, then Singapore also has excellent relationship with America, they can get F35, P3C and everything with their far more military expenditure than you...

 

[Yingluck]

It is unfair to comment that Vietnamese cannot fight. In reality Vietnamese is quite a martial race.

If VN was within China, it can never expand beyond Song Hong delta. The succession of VN from China gave the Kinh people an expansive impulse.

 

[Kai Liu]

It is unfair to comment that Vietnamese cannot fight. In reality Vietnamese is quite a martial race.

If VN was within China, it can never expand beyond Song Hong delta. The succession of VN from China gave the Kinh people an expansive impulse.

It is the 21st century now. Martial race or not is irrelevant nowadays. Without high-tech weapons, you got killed without even know where is the enemy... If "martial race" still counts, the world will still be dominated by barbarians.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It is unfair to comment that Vietnamese cannot fight. In reality Vietnamese is quite a martial race.

If VN was within China, it can never expand beyond Song Hong delta. The succession of VN from China gave the Kinh people an expansive impulse.

VPA can fight but don't expect them to be any good. Modern warfare are vastly different to ancient one.

The SAF on the other hand are sophisticated, well equipped & well trained army. Those words were never used to described the VPA in its current form.

 

[Viet]

It is unfair to comment that Vietnamese cannot fight. In reality Vietnamese is quite a martial race.

If VN was within China, it can never expand beyond Song Hong delta. The succession of VN from China gave the Kinh people an expansive impulse.

To be fair, not all of our new territories were won by conquests. We got two new provinces in central from Champa by the exchange of a Viet princess. We got one province in the south from Cambodia because we helped the ruler crushing the rebellion. Ha ha.

 

[Nike]

From what i saw in history, beautiful costume usually are weaker than Even Cambodian soldier now looks more beauty than.. but I can not put my believe on them.

Not talking about costume, but man figures, discipline and body builds (protein intakes) all necessary to fight modern war.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I am talking about is it possible to take down Singapore choke point, with current operational capability of China, in a rational manner. These Chinese member + one Singapore traitor keep giving me crab.

Oh now im a traitor to my country?
U kept advocating china as a security threat to singapore when any patriotic singaporean will know that it is not true- n that the real threat to our security as a tiny nation are our 2 immediate neighbours who have repeatedly gave threats in various forms- discreetly or directly,

If u have to compare, i dont get it why instead of logically comparing to indonesia's n malaysia's current n projected military strength- u chose to specifically home in on china's.

This giveaway sign implicitly hints of your anti-sinitism.

Or is ur 80+ low IQ not enough for u to have realise that?

Hahaha thanks.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I do not have any doubt on Singapore's capability to develop some advanced weapons, after all, the majority of Singaporean people (74%) are ethnic Chinese, they are smart, also they have money which is essential in developing new technology. Although Singapore and China might have some disagreement politically, but I really don't think we should have a Singapore vs China comparison here, since it is meaningless and boring. Now the comparison between SG vs VN, which is much much more interesting and appropriate.

A large flow of R&D n corporate practices from the West, flows into singapore n it is via Singapore that these technologies flow into China.

Suzhou industrial park n Tianjin Eco city are some of these examples.

Singapore has no qualms sharing technology with China, much less anticipating an attack from them- as advocated by false flagger Yingluck.

If anything, the only country in this world i can think of that would be closest to singapore culturally, economically n genetically- would be china.

However, security-wise, while china is not a threat to singapore(as explained)- the former has not demonstrated that she is capabe of projecting military n dipomatic influence beyond her backyard to southeast asia n beyond .

This is the fact. Only the US can ensure this for now- that should any hostilities break out in our immediate neighbourhood, singapore would have a strong ally to work with.

This rationality.Singapore knows China is not a threat, but she also knows the latter is incapable guaranting regional security to tiny nations beyond her own waters- a role the US has demonstrated it is capable of through the course of time.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Fokker 50 MPA is the only aerial platform capable of launching the Harpoon anti-ship cruise missile in the Singapore inventory. I don't believe I've seen F-15SG or F-16 carrying the Harpoon.

For example, can anyone show me a Singapore aircraft (not Fokker 50) with a capability like this?

Because if you don't even have such a basic capability, I would not be making stupid threats like this guy right here.

If China ship come close to Straits of Singapore, it can be taken down easily.

 

[Kai Liu]

A large flow of R&D n corporate practices from the West, flows into singapore n it is via Singapore that these technologies flow into China.

Suzhou industrial park n Tianjin Eco city are some of these examples.

Singapore has no qualms sharing technology with China, much less anticipating an attack from them- as advocated by false flagger Yingluck.

If anything, the only country in this world i can think of that would be closest to singapore culturally, economically n genetically- would be china.

However, security-wise, while china is not a threat to singapore(as explained)- the former has not demonstrated that she is capabe of projecting military n dipomatic influence beyond her backyard to southeast asia n beyond .

This is the fact. Only the US can ensure this for now- that should any hostilities break out in our immediate neighbourhood, singapore would have a strong ally to work with.

This rationality.Singapore knows China is not a threat, but she also knows the latter is incapable guaranting regional security to tiny nations beyond her own waters- a role the US has demonstrated it is capable of through the course of time.

Singapore should be the last country in the SE Asia or even in the world to worry about China, since a strong China would suit the interests of all ethic Chinese worldwide, same as a strong America would suit the interests of all white Europeans. You will feel this when you live in the western countries for a period of time, even other Asians will feel the importance of the rise of a strong Asian country for their dignity. Of course a lot of people will pretend to be unaware of the White supremacy in those societies. So I think this Singapore vs China comparison is meaningless. Actually Singapore has hosted a lot of negotiations between China and SE Asia countries over South China Sea disputes. Those worry about the rise of China most is the SE Asia countries which have disputes over South China Sea islands. As the following saying goes: 血溶于水. Singapore and China will never have issues.

 

[Viet]

Not talking about costume, but man figures, discipline and body builds (protein intakes) all necessary to fight modern war.

sis, we are a peaceful country but our army is trained to take on the best armies in the world. Don´t quickly judge one´s army by its appearance. incapable to fight modern war? you are too clueless, actually warfare today is not much different to warfare in the times of the Rom Empire.

 

[Dungeness]

Just comparison between militia and conscription in sg, Viet, Indo, and Malaysia

Vietnam Militia

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Askar wataniah Malaysia
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Indonesia student regiments militia

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Lol they even can't put the belt properly let alone fight modern and intensive Modern Warfare

I wouldn't downgrade Vietnamese military just because they don't have cool uniforms. Their fighting spirit makes them a tough enemy to fight against.

 

[Yingluck]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Fokker 50 MPA is the only aerial platform capable of launching the Harpoon anti-ship cruise missile in the Singapore inventory. I don't believe I've seen F-15SG or F-16 carrying the Harpoon.

For example, can anyone show me a Singapore aircraft (not Fokker 50) with a capability like this?

Because if you don't even have such a basic capability, I would not be making stupid threats like this guy right here.

This is a fair comment. I always assume F15SG has harpoon option. It cant be proven yet.

 

[Dungeness]

On both points, you may be surprised to read, I agree with you (with some qualifications).

It was not China or the Chinese in general that I was drawing your attention to; it was the ill-mannered, not excessively enthusiastic, but downright ill-mannered and arrogant attitude of the worse part of Chinese members on PDF. I drew your attention to this specifically because you (and other responsible, mature Chinese members) have complained about the worse kind of Indian members in the past. This was an opportunity to demonstrate to you that you, too, have these bad eggs.

Second, a minority of Chinese members are, indeed, much more rational than a segment of my compatriots; the difference is that these irrational Indians have been systematically hunted down and banned, and they, and many rational Indians, are no longer members here. Among both national groups, however, it is a minority that is responsible and behave decently; the majority are badly behaved. There is not much to choose between them, except that the Indians had suffered from an influx of the worst sort of member, the ignorant bigots, hyper-patriots and almost-fascists, due largely to a social shift in India, as well as the results of the last general elections.

In concluding, you need to ask why you two were singled out to receive my sickened, appalled reaction to those bums. Would this have been addressed to two other bums? Or to those who would be able to understand what was being said, and why?

I too get carried away in some heated debates with Indian and Vietnamese members. What frustrated me the most is not their arrogance, rather the ignorance, which I found surprisingly common among Indian members, despite the "free media" Indian members are so proud of. Case in point, "142.8 exaflops super-supercomputer by 2017" as claimed by Indian media and many members here.

My personal observation, Chinese members tend to base their arguments on facts or logical derivation, but the same can't be said about many Indian members. A supposedly meaningful debate usually goes down to quarrel then to the exchange of insults. I just select the members to talk with, but won't bother with some known trolls as nothing positive will come out of it. As an old Chinese saying goes, "Don't try to reason with a duck if you are a chicken".