Hizb Tahrir planned Arab spring in Pak

[B@KH]

HT does have some support in the military and other govt agencies however, it is not enough to be able to instigate a rebellion or revolt of any kind.

well said. no idea what is the strategy behind all these springs creating chaos from morocco to beijing and around the globe.

 

[B@KH]

Clearly radical Islamists find welcome in the UK, how come? - Below is a dated piece but I think it's important

Is Hizb-ut-Tahrir another project of British MI6?
March 21, 2010
By Yousuf Nazar

General Pervez Musharraf acknowledged in his book, ‘In the Line of Fire’, that Omar Saeed Sheikh – the man who was convicted for killing Wall Street Journal’s correspondent Daniel Pearl, in 2002, was recruited by MI6, the British intelligence agency.

We also know that Omar Saeed Sheikh conducted terrorist strikes in India and was also very close to the sectarian terrorist outfits in Pakistan besides being very close to the former Intelligence Bureau Head, Brig. (rtd) Ijaz Shah. Omar Saeed was also linked (in the reports of the Associated Press, DAWN, CNN, Fox News, ABC News, among others) to transferring $100,000 to Mohd. Atta, who allegedly led the hijackings of 9/11.

So when people talk about a nexus of the Western intelligence agencies, Pakistani spy masters, and the terrorists in Pakistan, it is more than just conspiracy theory. Some of the facts have been so well documented and in some instance, as in the case of Omar Saeed Sheikh, acknowledged by people like Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto.

This article provides links to material and reports that indicate that Hizb-ut-Tahrir is in fact a project of the MI6.

From 1986 to 1996, under the leadership of Syrian born Omar Bakri Muhammad, Hizb ut-Tahrir grew from a very small organization in Britain to a one of the most active Islamic organizations in the country. In 1996 Bakri split with Hizb ut-Tahrir over disagreements on policy, style and methods, and focused on another organization Al-Muhajiroun.

A report in Foreign Affairs Journal claims that Hizb ut-Tahrir “dominates” the British Islamist “scene” with some 8,500 members in the United Kingdom, compared to only 1,000 for a rival, Muslim Association of Britain.

Hizb ut-Tahrir in Britain emphasized the importance of Muslims choosing loyalty to their religion above loyalty to Britain or any other country. In Hizb ut-Tahrir’s view, Islam is anti-nationalist, transnational and pan-Islamic in nature. Although it was founded decades ago and is active in many countries, its activities in Central Asia are considered as of vital importance to MI6 as part of Anglo-American strategy to contain the Russians and since the last decade to counter the growing influence of China.

Following the 7 July 2005 London bombings the British government announced its intention to ban the organization but abandoned the ban. According to The Independent Blair “shelved the ban after warnings from police, intelligence chiefs, and civil liberties groups that it is a non-violent group, and driving it underground could backfire and according to the Observer because the Home Office believed a legal ban would not stick.

In July 2007, Leader of the Opposition David Cameron asked the new Prime Minister Gordon Brown why the organisation had not been banned from the United Kingdom, arguing it was an extremist group. Gordon Brown responded that more evidence would be needed before banning a group and, when pressed further, John Reid the previous home secretary stepped in arguing that there had already been two reviews of the group with insufficient evidence to justify a ban.

In November of 2009, Mr Cameron again questioned the Government over Hizb ut-Tahrir, claiming that government Pathfinder fund aimed at combating violent extremism was being used to fund schools run by an organisation with links to extremism.

The following links are worth a closer study.

1. The first report is that of UK Daily Telegraph, titled ” Islamists who want to destroy the state get £100,000 funding”, dated Oct. 25, 2009

2. The second one is a report published by the Executive Intelligence Review, ”Tajikistan-Another Victim of British-Saudi Terror“, dated August 7. 2009

3. The third report by the UK’s Times, “British Islamists plot against Pakistan“, dated July 4, 2009, does not link MI6 directly but is silent on one fact. How come the British Muslims belonging to the Hizb while followed so closely by the British intelligence and known to even the Times, are able to travel so frequently between the UK and Pakistan?

4. MI6 agents in Dehli detained, February 18, 2010

The linkages between the so-called Islamic militants and the Western spy agencies, supported by the reports of the western media itself, suggest that some of the so-called extremist or militant groups are merely tools in the much bigger game, called the “Great Game” and MI6 is naturally a major player.

Unfortunately, Pakistanis have become the cannon fodder of the not just the Great Game but also of the ‘turf battles’ among the MI6, the CIA, and the ISI. Of course, the fact that many of the extremists have gotten out of their control has made things worse but the fight against the terrorists seems like a losing battle in this part of the world because either the ‘old terrorist’ is eliminated and replaced by a new one as Benazir Bhutto put it on Business Plus TV in one of her last interviews, and a ‘good terrorist” is even supported by some of the most prominent figures in the media leave alone the much maligned Pakistani establishment.

these are all plots and games to create chaos.

first spring is needed in Saudi Arabia. then should be the turn of others.

 

[Tshering22]

Isn't there already enough pandemonium going on in your country that this group wants to cause more havoc? I think you guys need to be alert for the next few days. In such chaotic situations if you guys encourage a revolution, all the fringe groups will go out of control.

 

[muse]

God Hold Jinnah to his bosom while Zia burns in Hell!



The real ghost
Gulmina Bilal Ahmad



I am reminded of a dear friend‘s remark about Pakistan as I roam the cities of Islamabad and Rawalpindi. Commenting on Pakistan, he said, “Who says we do not enjoy freedom in Pakistan? You can pee on the streets and no one is going to touch you.” Same is the case with Hizb-ut-Tahrir.

HT is a banned group. It is a terrorist organisation; a terrorist organisation that undoubtedly invests a lot of money in corporate branding to mention just one characteristic. The twin cities of Rawalpindi-Islamabad are full of the expensively printed orange and black posters of HT. For me it is akin to urinating on the streets such are their ideas of misplaced Islamism but then what do I know? I am but a “decadent follower of western thought” as one HT supporter so eloquently referred to me in an e-mail a few weeks back.

This particular poster calls upon the “real Muslims in the Pakistan Army” to stand up and fight against the “American-funded, nefarious designs against Islam”. The particular “nefarious design” is the arrest of their deputy spokesperson, Mr Imran Yousafzai, against which all of us but particularly the “real Muslims in the Pakistan Army” need to unite against. General Kayani might ad nauseam declare that “there can only be one cult in the army and that is the army itself” but HT begs to differ. HT is entitled to their own opinions, but may I ask how is it that the banned HT can operate freely and put up posters in public places? Previously in this space I have shared approximations of the fee that the Rawalpindi Development Authority (RDA) and the Capital Development Authority (CDA) take as taxable fee per day to put up signs and banners, etc. I will spare you dear reader, the crude financial calculations but will not refrain from boring you with repeating my question: how is this done? Why is HT given the space to put up their posters? Who all are supporting such banned organisations?

HT was allowed to operate in Pakistan during the reign of General Pervez Musharraf in 2003. It is an organisation that is slowly but very effectively gaining support in Pakistan. Its origin can be traced back to Jerusalem and it came in the limelight when it started its operations in the UK during the 80s. The organisation claims to be non-violent and is struggling for the establishment of Khilafat (Caliphate) across the globe. Its operations were banned in 2004, alleging its involvement in anti-state and violent activities.

Recently, a Brigadier named Ali Khan was arrested, allegedly for having links with HT. Following his arrest, four unknown military officers serving as Majors were also arrested. Right after the arrests were made, the second in command, deputy spokesperson of HT in Pakistan, Imran Yousafzai, was also arrested, who according to his associates, was going to meet a local journalist. According to media reports, a few other arrests were also carried out in connection with the involvement of these persons with the banned organisation.

Islamabad, being the capital of the country, supposedly has better security measures compared to the rest of the country. The intelligence services and police are said to be equally active around the capital. However, these claims are nullified by the presence of posters, banners and flyers of HT found across the capital, without the exception of the red-zone sectors. Anyone can spot the orange coloured posters, portraying the stance of this organisation, which is primarily anti-democratic, supporting the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate across the globe. The amount of money being spent on the publishing and dissemination of the posters, banners and flyers, etc, also gives rise to suspicions about the source of their funding.

The arrest of Brigadier Ali Khan was shocking for the public because no one could ever suspect a serving army officer, particularly of Brigadier rank, to be a part of an organisation that is banned and allegedly shares the mindset of al Qaeda and other like-minded organisations. These arrests also point towards the extent to which this organisation has penetrated our armed forces.

HT is also said to be active in Egypt and, according to some analysts, had a central role in the revolution. It had also developed its links within the armed forces of Egypt, which paved the way for the revolution.

This organisation is hoping for an Arab Spring in Pakistan; something similar to the revolutions of the Arab world. However, it seems that the arrest of their deputy spokesperson in Pakistan has given them a setback, which is quite evident from their latest poster that could also be seen at different places across Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

The latest poster warns the government and particularly the armed forces that they should stop following the dictates of the US. It is clearly written that those who show fidelity to the US are enemies of Pakistan and the Muslim Ummah. Then the poster describes that their deputy spokesperson has been lifted by the intelligence agencies, which is a cowardly act and these measures will not stop the organisation from going further.

Pakistan is already flooded by the presence of trusts and charities that are actually militant organisations in disguise. HT presents danger of a new kind because it does not work on the pattern of these trusts and charities but targets the educated class in society. This in a way is more dangerous than bombs because losing educated people to these organisations will seriously damage the efforts of those who are trying their best for the country to survive.

The security establishment must come up with a through plan to dismantle all the organisations and non-state actors that are trying to destabilise the country. HT, although non-violent, presents a serious danger to the country and its armed forces. It is time that a serious crackdown should be initiated and these organisations be completely removed from the country, so that their message remains undelivered. We are certainly not the UK, which has still not banned the organisation, terming it non-violent and not against UK laws. We certainly cannot afford the existence of these organisations when we are already dealing with the menace of terrorism in the country.

On August 17, we marked another year of the death of General Ziaul Haq (may he not rest in peace). As I examine the impunity with which HT is operating, why is a single thought consuming me : Zia is dead but his ghost is larger than all of us.

The writer is a freelance consultant. She can be reached at coordinator@individualland.com

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i agree with each and every single line of the above post; but disrespecting a man who is dead and has been dead for damn near 23 years.....really??

even those you dont like, have the decency to just leave them.....he's dead!

yes the government of Pakistan has been sissies about seriously confronting this menace. If they are a terrorist group, well then treat them that way!

but then again, we even allow groups like BLA and BRA (traitors) to exist. If we wanted to be real ruthless, we could be no problem.

it is civilian job, not army job, to remove offensive literature and posters on the street. Army are not janitors or baggage handlers.

 

[muse]

AZ
Praise Jinnah and lament not Zia - understand?? Zia burns in hell, and you don't have to like it.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I praise Jinnah every day......he's one of the few role models our country has at the moment.

as for rest of your post, no comments.

 

[unicorn]

I praise Jinnah every day......he's one of the few role models our country has at the moment.

as for rest of your post, no comments.

Wo bhala kis ki baat maanne hain
Apne bhai muse to kuch deewane hain



Leave him.

 

[muse]

as for rest of your post, no comments.

Why then the whole bit about respect for Zia?? Neither of us have to like everything the other has to say - for you Zia is a hero, for me he's a villain - that's all there is to it.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Why then the whole bit about respect for Zia?? Neither of us have to like everything the other has to say - for you Zia is a hero, for me he's a villain - that's all there is to it.

to be quite frank with you, he doesnt figure in my list of "heros" ......i just dont wish the dead to 'not rest in peace'

what if i were to tell you that i happen to belong to a sizeable 'minority group' who would be in the cross-hairs of sectarian groups which were encouraged to thrive under the aforementioned's eye?


he did some things i fully endorse; such as the anti-soviet jihad......but in terms of promoting a professional Army free of "external intereferences" --well, i dont agree with the policies he enacted. Even mess hall he tried to convert into seminary.



@ Unicorn --- Muse is my brother. We may disagree on some things, but his patriotism I would never question.

 

[muse]

And Unicorn is our brother or sister or whatever as well - he or she will remember that in time

 

[unicorn]

@ Unicorn --- Muse is my brother. We may disagree on some things, but his patriotism I would never question.

I never question his patriotism nor his intentions.Infact I admire him a lot.

And Unicorn is our brother or sister or whatever as well - he or she will remember that in time

Remember what in time Sir ?