Hindu refugees blame 'Rohingya militants' for attacking them in Myanmar

[Nalini]

The army and government have also sought to highlight the suffering of other ethnic groups swept up in the unrest, such as Rakhine Buddhists and Hindus.

On Wednesday the army flew journalists to the place where the mass graves of 45 Hindu villagers. The decomposing skeletal bodies remained laid out in rows on a grassy field outside the village of Ye Baw Kyaw as distraught relatives wailed.

Locals have helped identify 25 of the corpses, according to the government's Information Committee. Hindus who fled the area have told AFP that masked men stormed into their community that day and hacked victims to death with machetes before dumping them into freshly-dug pits.

Speaking to media on the army-led press trip, Maung Ba, a 32-year-old Hindu, said several of his relatives were among those brutally murdered. 'I identified them based on their clothes and body shape,' he said solemnly.

Ni Maul, a Hindu leader who has helped with the search, said authorities found the graves using testimony from eight Hindu women who were spared and brought to Bangladesh after they agreed to convert to Islam.

'They kept the beautiful eight women alive to marry,' he said.

Four Hindu women displaced in Bangladesh told AFP they were among the eight who escaped the massacre in the same area of Kha Maung Seik, with eight children in tow.

'We begged for our lives, asking they spare the women,' 22-year-old Bina Sheel told AFP at a small village for Hindu refugees in the Bangladeshi border district of Cox's Bazar.

'They asked if we would marry them. We said yes, to save our lives.'

All four women said they were taken to Rohingya Muslim camps inside Bangladesh by the attackers. Sheel said her captor urged her to convert to Islam before she was brought to the Hindu village by a local leader.

The accounts could not be independently confirmed. The crisis has intensified religious hatreds and fuelled ethnically-charged claims and counterclaims.

The focal point of the unrest, Rakhine's Maungdaw district, was once home to several religious communities, with the Rohingya a majority.

But vast swathes of the border region are now completely emptied of Muslim residents.

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Some people get great pleasure & happiness slinging mud on India even when they see Chinese & Russian animosity. Their quietly whisper if it's about China or Russia but for India their devil inside will come out to spit venom. Heights of hatred.

Cat catches their tongue when a Muslim is creating atrocities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi, etc. But they will find fault about India supplying arms to ISIS, but nobody will talk, when they are killing innocents inhumanely or if there are terrorist attacks. A few for name sake would talk about it quietly whisper & that's it. But if a Non-Muslim Kills a Muslim, all hell will break loose & they will talk of revenge, Jihad & terminating them from the face of earth. Heights of Hypocrisy & hatred.

Nobody talks about their own killings in their country, of Hindus & minorities when every year their population keeps decreasing, even if statistics show the population of Muslims has doubled in India, but If Hindus or minorities are almost erased, still Muslims are innocents & all others are barbarians.

Hate threads after hate threads keep cropping up every day from these hate filled lunatics. Shame, I am questioning, why we should even feel sorry for these Rohingyas with such posts every day who take every opportunity to promote hatred against India. These people cry & moan, when they are in plight to get justice & if we support them to get their rights, tomorrow the same people will back stab with the same life we gifted to spit venom or kill us. 1971 is an example. Really Sad.

Every body has a language of how India is a cruel & monstrous country, but nobody wants to extend a hand of friendship with India & together work towards peace. We should ban all the Bangladeshi players from IPL. They have no right to come & take crores of Rupees of our country, which they won't even earn in their lifetime. Possibly if they don't change, we should cut off all cricketing ties with them like Pakistan. That's enough for their cricket to collapse.

Lakhs of Bangladeshis shamelessly come to India for treatment to save their lives, with such hate filled minds & hearts, they also need to be banned. We should appeal every Indian abroad to stop these Bangladeshis put Indian Restaurant board when they are not Indian & tell everybody not to go there as it's not Indian. We should give shoot at sight order for all illegal immigrants who try to cross our border who take our jobs or make fake passports to go to countries they are banned. We should show these ungrateful rouges how our hatred with hit them

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ia-from-bangladesh-report-117042500959_1.html

https://qz.com/221317/remittance-economy-india-is-to-bangladesh-what-the-middle-east-is-to-india/

https://hinduexistence.org/2016/11/...legal-bangladeshi-migrants-says-kiren-rijiju/
I appeal to all Indians to voice these Bangladeshis in all forum to be banned for such animosity. They don't deserve our friendship. Ungrateful people & country. We should have left them to be slaughtered by their fellow brothers in 1971.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

I appeal to all Indians to voice these Bangladeshis in all forum to be banned for such animosity. They don't deserve our friendship. Ungrateful people & country. We should have left them to be slaughtered by their fellow brothers in 1971.

Just do it. -Nike

 

[Nalini]

Just do it. -Nike

The world is already waking up to your people's double standards. Everywhere they are getting rid of your clan. And don't worry your turn will come soon. Keep promoting this hatred, Indians will be the best people who will teach you your aukaad, we are already doing it to Pakistan.

And don't tag me, I don't like talking to hate-filled hooligans

 

[hussain0216]

The world is already waking up to your people's double standards. Everywhere they are getting rid of your clan. And don't worry your turn will come soon. And don't tag me, I don't like talking to hate-filled hooligans

The muslim's are a "world" we have millions of minorities of our own that you think we should be so docile as not to respond to the persecution of any muslim

We are the fastest growing faith
Thr youngest median age in prime fertility we are the future and the clash of civilisations is fortold in our faith we have no surprise at all with what is happening only the liberal and deluded do.
Bangladesh was blind and placed its trust in india, now hindutva is rising and Bangladesh is left stranded with no military strength to protect itself

 

[duhastmish]

The muslim's are a "world" we have millions of minorities of our own that you think we should be so docile as not to respond to the persecution of any muslim

We are the fastest growing faith
Thr youngest median age in prime fertility we are the future and the clash of civilisations is fortold in our faith we have no surprise at all with what is happening only the liberal and deluded do.
Bangladesh was blind and placed its trust in india, now hindutva is rising and Bangladesh is left stranded with no military strength to protect itself

thats why they are sorted out. why do u think so many islamic country are at war.

 

[hussain0216]

thats why they are sorted out. why do u think so many islamic country are at war.

History is full of conflict and war

 

[Nalini]

Hold land. This is how your holy brothers will treat fellow Muslims, but you people will still go lick their boot. But nobody will have spine or voice to shout Human rights here. There are much worse cases I can't post here. You didn't learn when your fellow Muslim brothers Pakistan did the same above. You don't deserve our friendship. You only deserve your fellow Muslim brotherhood, who will show you their brotherly love like above.

Yes Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians are bad. Only you are right & good.

The muslim's are a "world" we have millions of minorities of our own that you think we should be so docile as not to respond to the persecution of any muslim

We are the fastest growing faith
Thr youngest median age in prime fertility we are the future and the clash of civilisations is fortold in our faith we have no surprise at all with what is happening only the liberal and deluded do.
Bangladesh was blind and placed its trust in india, now hindutva is rising and Bangladesh is left stranded with no military strength to protect itself

Exactly. The biggest problem with Rohingyas or many Muslims is their fertility rate. It applies even in India.

Regarding Rohingyas or even Bangladeshis most girls are married of as soon as they reach puberty. Many cases as young as 11-12, which is really not acceptable & right. It is a grave human right violation in the first place. Any person up-to the age of 16 is still a child. They slowly start to mature only after 17/18 years & begin to understand life & life's challenges ir how to tackle problems & they slowly transform through the early 20's. So you are stealing a girls childhood & her right to relish her youth.

Even though legally at 18 a girl is allowed to marry, I would say 21+ is better, but still not ideal. 24/25 would be ideally the perfect age to marry a girl. 27/28 for a male. Target should be to marry of a girl before 32/33 & a male before 35/36.

In most civilized countries the average age for a girl gets married would be around 29/30 & a male 31/32.

The next problem is the no. of children you have in this modern world. Most western countries have an average 1½ child per family, which means either you have one child or two for a family.

Now coming to logic - why Muslims are considered a threat

People like Rohingyas in Myanmar, they start giving birth by the age of 13-14. And by the time they turn 25 they are already having 5-6 kids. When the mother turns 29/30 they start marring off their kids again. On the other side the same age Buddhist or western girl is having her first baby. And probably will have the second after a gap of 3-4 years.

By 40-42 years the muslim's 5-6 children have already given birth to another 5-6 kids each. So from one mother the child produced is almost 40+ kids through her children when this mother reaches 40-42 years.

So let's take simple statistics how it impacts society. Let' s assume there were 500,000 Rohingya girls, of the age of 12-14 years in 1948 when Burma became independent.

After 40 years, Population of 500,000 x 40 children produced = 20,000,000. These girls have already totally produced 20 million children & still producing.

Whereas after 40 years a Burmese population would be 500,000 x 1½ = 750,000. And the 2nd generation is just not started producing.

So the Rohingya population has grown to 20 million in comparison to 750,000. This is total mismatch.

I have taken first 40 years. So calculate 70 years from 1948 after independence additional growth.

Now when people start feeling threatened by this kind of encroachment & death of their own culture, people start resisting & confronting in their new places. Hatred starts to build & small fights start to happen between Muslim dominated region & the neighboring places slowly spreading to other regions. Law & order, police & armed forces start to mediate in disputes. This is exactly the juncture where the Muslim radicalization & Jihad takes over.

What you see next is the violence & bloodshed & the Muslims asking for separate homeland for themselves, which leads to civil war. Every country may not react like how India reacted in 1947 by giving land. China & Russia know this from experience so will never support such threats.

It's very easy to spread hatred & very difficult to promote friendship, love & peace. People who have hate filled minds only start threads of others folly. And you will get the same in return.

All these unwanted tensions & Military build up will only lead to Gov.t taxing it's citizens on daily essentials like food, petrol & other basic necessity prices. Throw differences, hatred & religion in the dust bin & look at ways to reduce hostility & build relations, trade, friendship & peace, if you want to change your fate.

 

[duhastmish]

History is full of conflict and war

Rest everybody including liberal Muslim are trying their best to demolish extremists. An orthodox agenda fed by mullahs is main culprit.
These wars are just a response to extremism and containing Muslim. Who are breeding too fast it's alarming to all of us.

 

[hussain0216]

Rest everybody including liberal Muslim are trying their best to demolish extremists. An orthodox agenda fed by mullahs is main culprit.
These wars are just a response to extremism and containing Muslim. Who are breeding too fast it's alarming to all of us.

What you find alarming is no concern for us, we have to have small families because you get your panties in a twist?

Our responsibility and loyalty is to our own and conflict is the future of the planet

 

[Bilal9]

Pakistan has been promoting terror in our country from the time it became independent. And you think we should keep quiet. We are not running around with Guns or doing suicide attacks to kill people there. It's muslims killing muslims. Go ask them why they are killing their fellow Muslims. It's the same case in Middle East. Hindus are not running with Bomb jackets. If you have cancer in your body you can't blame the external people feeding the cancer. Indians are not caught in Terror attacks across the world.

Did you even look at the second video - meaning the end??

This was a secular Bangladeshi video about the ills of 'Islamophobia'. The message was not to paint people in Extremist colors and labels when they are really normal people practicing their religion....

Enough - time out. Go back to your Sangh reading room.

 

[hussain0216]

Hold land. This is how your holy brothers will treat fellow Muslims, but you people will still go lick their boot. But nobody will have spine or voice to shout Human rights here. There are much worse cases I can't post here. You didn't learn when your fellow Muslim brothers Pakistan did the same above. You don't deserve our friendship. You only deserve your fellow Muslim brotherhood, who will show you their brotherly love like above.

Yes Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians are bad. Only you are right & good.



Exactly. The biggest problem with Rohingyas or many Muslims is their fertility rate. It applies even in India.

Regarding Rohingyas or even Bangladeshis most girls are married of as soon as they reach puberty. Many cases as young as 11-12, which is really not acceptable & right. It is a grave human right violation in the first place. Any person up-to the age of 16 is still a child. They slowly start to mature only after 17/18 years & begin to understand life & life's challenges ir how to tackle problems & they slowly transform through the early 20's. So you are stealing a girls childhood & her right to relish her youth.

Even though legally at 18 a girl is allowed to marry, I would say 21+ is better, but still not ideal. 24/25 would be ideally the perfect age to marry a girl. 27/28 for a male. Target should be to marry of a girl before 32/33 & a male before 35/36.

In most civilized countries the average age for a girl gets married would be around 29/30 & a male 31/32.

The next problem is the no. of children you have in this modern world. Most western countries have an average 1½ child per family, which means either you have one child or two for a family.

Now coming to logic - why Muslims are considered a threat

People like Rohingyas in Myanmar, they start giving birth by the age of 13-14. And by the time they turn 25 they are already having 5-6 kids. When the mother turns 29/30 they start marring off their kids again. On the other side the same age Buddhist or western girl is having her first baby. And probably will have the second after a gap of 3-4 years.

By 40-42 years the muslim's 5-6 children have already given birth to another 5-6 kids each. So from one mother the child produced is almost 40+ kids through her children when this mother reaches 40-42 years.

So let's take simple statistics how it impacts society. Let' s assume there were 500,000 Rohingya girls, of the age of 12-14 years in 1948 when Burma became independent.

After 40 years, Population of 500,000 x 40 children produced = 20,000,000. These girls have already totally produced 20 million children & still producing.

Whereas after 40 years a Burmese population would be 500,000 x 1½ = 750,000. And the 2nd generation is just not started producing.

So the Rohingya population has grown to 20 million in comparison to 750,000. This is total mismatch.

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I have taken first 40 years. So calculate 70 years from 1948 after independence additional growth.
Now when people start feel threatened by this kind of encroachment & death of their own culture, people start resisting & confronting in their new places. Hatred starts to build & small fights start to happen between Muslim dominated region & the neighboring places slowly spreading to other regions. Law & order, police & armed forces start to mediate in disputes. This is exactly the juncture where the Muslim radicalization & Jihad takes over.

What you see next is the violence & bloodshed & the Muslims asking for separate homeland for themselves, which leads to civil war. Every country may not react like how India reacted in 1947 by giving land. China & Russia know this from experience so vetoed for this issue.

It's very easy to spread hatred & very difficult to promote friendship, love & peace. People who have hate filled minds only start threads of others folly. And you will get the same in return.

All these unwanted tensions & Military build up will only lead to Gov.t taxing it's citizens on daily essentials like food, petrol & other basic necessity prices. Throw differences, hatred & religion in the dust bin & look at ways to reduce hostility & build relations, trade, friendship & peace, if you want to change your fate.

You write alot but most of what you say is worthless

- There are racists in every society we hate blackie hindus for example, for every racist arab there are others who are kind, you think we should damn all of Saudi because of a few racists?

- The vast majority of muslims marry well past the age of 18

- We have big families
We like big families
We are not going to stop having big families because your hindutva *** gets bent out of shape

- we dont want any friendship with hindutva india, if we wanted to be friends we wouldn't have seperated, your occupation of Kashmir has made as enemies for ever

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

The world is already waking up to your people's double standards. Everywhere they are getting rid of your clan. And don't worry your turn will come soon. Keep promoting this hatred, Indians will be the best people who will teach you your aukaad, we are already doing it to Pakistan.

And don't tag me, I don't like talking to hate-filled hooligans

LOL, Tag me when a single crushed like thing have slight effect on our expansion...

 

[Banglar Bir]

Who really attacked the Rohingya Hindus in Rakhine?
Mahadi Al Hasnat
Published at 12:44 AM October 01, 2017
Last updated at 01:24 AM October 01, 2017

Hindu villagers react as they identify the bodies of their relatives found by government forces on September 27, 2017, that authorities suspected were killed by insurgents last month, in a mass grave near Maungdaw in the north of Myanmar's Rakhine state, September 27, 2017 REUTERS
The Myanmar government on September 27 announced it had found a mass grave of Hindus near Fakirabazar, where at least 45 corpses of local Hindus were buried
Among the half million Rohingya refugees who have come to Bangladesh, only a handful of them are Hindus. In their statements to many journalists and authorities, these people have described suffering horrors of slaughter and arson just like their Muslim neighbours.

In particular, Rohingya refugees from the Hindu neighbourhood of Fakirabazar in Maungdaw, described how masked assailants clad in black had shot and stabbed people and dumped the bodies in holes in the ground.

Over the last week and a half, however, some of the statements have begun to change. The Hindus, who are mostly gathered in a separate camp in Ukhiya, Cox’s Bazar, have started to blame “militant Muslims” for attacks on the Hindus.

Last week, a group of Rohingya women told AFP they were Hindus, brought forcibly to the Kutupalong refugee camp in Bangladesh by a group of men and told to convert to Islam.

A reporter from Indian news magazine India Today also found a woman from this group. She claimed to have been forced to perform namaz and wear a burqa.

Reuters reports that in late August, a group of Hindu Rohingya women had told them it was Rakhine Buddhists who attacked them. But later on, three of them changed their statements to say the attackers were Rohingya Muslims, who brought them here and told them to blame the Buddhists.

The Myanmar government on September 27 announced it had found a mass grave of Hindus near Fakirabazar, where at least 45 corpses of local Hindus were buried. A group of local and foreign journalists were flown to the spot by the Myanmar army and shown decomposing skeletal bodies laid out in rows on a field outside the village, as distraught relatives wailed nearby.

Aerial view of a burned Rohingya village near Maungdaw, north of Rakhine state, Myanmar September 27, 2017. Photo: REUTERS
Rohingya killing Rohingya?
The Myanmar Army blamed the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA) for this slaughter. Journalists have no access to Rakhine state outside of these official visits and cannot verify any of the official claims.

The same day, the Rakhine state government urged Hindu refugees who fled to Bangladesh to return, promising they will be cared for in Sittwe, according to reports in Myanmar media.

This correspondent visited the camp of Rohingya Hindus in Ukhiya and found them sheltered in a chicken farm and makeshift houses beside a Hindu temple. The majority of them were from the villages of Chikanchhari, Fakirabazar and Balibazar in Maungdaw.

The refugees said they had fled to save their lives from a group of people clad in black, whom they called “Kala Party” (Black Party). They believed these people were Rohingya Muslims.

“Muslim terrorists have become desperate and started resenting the Hindus who have citizenship in Myanmar,” said Puja Mallik, a young Hindu woman whose husband was killed by the masked men clad in black on August 25.

“The government is willing to give Muslims second class green citizenship card like ours, they do not want that. They demand the first class red citizenship cards that the Moghs [Rakhine] have,” she said.

The Myanmar has three tiers of citizenship, and the green card is for “naturalised citizens,” essentially immigrants.

A number of Hindu refugees while arriving in Bangladesh had told the media that they had lost their fathers and husbands at the hands of Myanmar army for their reluctance to partake in Muslim killing in Rakhine.

Expectant mother Anika Dhar, 18, escaped to Bangladesh and found shelter at Kutupalong’s Hindu camp with 77 other families. Her husband Milon was shot dead by the Myanmar army on August 27. The photo was taken on September 19, 2017. Photo: Mahmud Hossain Opu/Dhaka Tribune
Cox’s Bazar Correspondent for New Age Mohammad Nurul Islam said: “They arrived in Bangladesh with the Muslim refugees and told us that the Buddhists had attacked them. We have audio records of their speeches.”

“Myanmar military and Buddhists killed my husband for not participating in killing and ousting Rohingya Muslims,” Anika Dhar, a pregnant Hindu housewife, had told the Daily New Age in late August.

She also told a senior journalist with the Reuters Television that she had taken shelter in a Muslim village after her husband was killed and came to Bangladesh with them.

Another woman, Padma Bala, who arrived in Bangladesh on August 30, told the same journalist: “The Moghs [Rakhine] are cutting us up.” The Reuters journalist is still in possession of the audio recording.
Many Rohingya Hindus have said they received support from Muslim neighbours in escaping the army’s persecution.

“The Kala Party with arms, bombs and lethal weapons confined us to our houses for five consecutive days. We managed to escape the confinement with a Muslim neighbour’s help,” Arimahan Rudra told the Dhaka Tribune.

According to him there were 607 Hindus in the camp.
What do Rohingya Muslims say?
The green card citizenship makes the Hindus more privileged than the Muslims. They can study in colleges and universities, they can get jobs and medical treatment from government hospitals, they can travel freely, at least in theory, and they can vote.

On the other hand, Rohingya Muslims demand full-fledged citizenship, acknowledgement as Rohingya, and removal of state-sponsored restrictions; demands that are unlikely to be ever fulfilled.

Many Rohingya Muslims think this is Myanmar’s long-term plan, a classic divide and rule strategy, to create anger and hatred between the two religious groups among the Rohingya.

Hashu Mia, a Muslim refugee from Fakirabazar village. Photo: Mahadi Al Hasnat/Dhaka Tribune
“We, the Hindus and Muslims, have been living together more than a hundred years in our village. The differences in our religious faiths did not create any trouble,” said Hashu Mia, a Muslim refugee from Fakirabazar village, now in Kutupalong.

“After coming to Bangladesh, I met one of my Hindu neighbours in Kutupalong bazar last week. He was the first to recognise me here. He embraced me tightly and we cried,” he said.

However, some Rohingya Muslims say some members of the Hindu community had sided with the army and Rakhine militia since the violence erupted.

“The Hindus are collaborating with the army and Moghs in Muslim killing. They helped them in looting and torching Muslim houses as they know the localities well,” said Abdus Salam, another Rohingya refugee from Fakirabazar.

“The relation between Hindus and Muslims has significantly deteriorated over a month,” he told the Dhaka Tribune.
Manufacturing a divide
The Rohingya insurgent group ARSA has strongly denounced the allegations brought by the Myanmar army.

“ARSA categorically denies that any of its member of combatants perpetrated murder, sexual violence, or forcible recruitment in the village of Fakirabazar, Riktapur and Chikonchhari in Maungdaw on or about 25 August 2017,” the statement issued on Wednesday said.

Who then, killed the Rohingya Hindus in the Rakhine state?

Rohingya refugees say that since ARSA’s attack, the Myanmar army started a deadly crackdown and killed hundreds of villagers regardless of their religious identities.

“The army is playing a game. The Buddhists and government agents attacked the Hindu villages so that they can justify the military crackdown targeted on Muslim eradication,” Mohammad Ayes, who enrolled himself in ARSA in August, told the Dhaka Tribune.

Mohammad Ayes, who joined ARSA a few days before the insurgent attacks, said the government used the conflict between the Hindus and Muslims, and take side of the Hindus as they were working for them.

Ayes argued that since the ARSA combatants do not have any dress code, they do not need to hide their identity with black masks.

“Whoever uses masks, it means they want to hide their identities and commit atrocities. It is a conspiracy against the Rohingya Muslims to prove that what the army is doing is legal and necessary,”

“If Hindus were really attacked by the Muslims, would they not be afraid to escape with the Muslims to get shelter in Bangladesh?” he asked.

Ayes alleged that since the Rohingya Hindus already had Myanmar citizenship and the government had urged them to return, they were blaming Muslims to express their loyalty towards the government.

Another ARSA member who claimed to be a Jimmadar (commander) told the Dhaka Tribune through a messaging app that the corpses the Myanmar army found could be any Rohingya.

“Now they are showing those bodies and forcing the Hindu people to cry in front of the bodies and say that those corpses were their relatives,” he said.

“UN bodies and others are trying to enter Rakhine state to investigate what atrocities were done by the military. So they buried the bodies of Rohingya. If any investigation is carried out the military will be accused for sure. So to destroy the evidence they are posing Muslim bodies as Hindu bodies,” the militant said.
‘We want to go to India’
Asked why they had come to Bangladesh instead of moving further inland, Bhuban Pal, a refugee in the Hindu camp, said that they perceived all Muslims to be against them and had moved to Bangladesh because it was closer.

“One of our community leaders, Nirmal Dhar, told us we would be safe here and he would arrange our return soon,” he added.

Several refugees, when asked whether they had heard about Rakhine state government’s invitation to the Hindus to return and stay in Sittwe, said they did not feel safe in Myanmar and wanted to go to India.

A Hindu refugee camp built inside a chicken coop. Photo: Mahadi Al Hasnat/Dhaka Tribune
“I would feel at peace in India. In Myanmar we will never feel safe,” one woman told the Dhaka Tribune.

India issued a prompt response when Myanmar army announced its finding of mass graves, calling on the country’s government to bring to justice perpetrators of the crime.

“We have conveyed our concerns about the affected people to Myanmar. The affected families should be given appropriate compensation,” Raveesh Kumar, the Indian External affairs Ministry spokesperson, told the press.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...ally-attacked-the-rohingya-hindus-in-rakhine/

 

[Banglar Bir]

India, Myanmar, and the convenient discovery of Hindu mass graves
Fazlur Rahman Raju
Published at 01:50 PM October 01, 2017
Last updated at 02:08 PM October 01, 2017

A Hindu family stays in a shelter near Maungdaw, in the north of Rakhine state, Myanmar, September 12, 2017 Reuters
'Thousands have been killed, where are their bodies, their mass graves?'
Security experts and human rights activists believe Myanmar is carrying out a media campaign to blame Rohingya insurgents for the killing of Hindus in Myanmar in a bid to take attention away from the ethnic cleansing carried out by the Myanmar army in the Rakhine state, and also to influence public opinion in India.

“Myanmar is trying to get support from India by trying to establish that the ARSA is involved the anti-Hindu activities,” said veteran journalist and political commentator Afsan Chowdhury.

Myanmar, said security analyst Major General Md Abdur Rashid (retd), is trying to prove that the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA) had killed the Hindus to convince the outside world that the army clampdown was a timely and a right one.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi went on a two-day state visit to Myanmar around two weeks after the country’s army started a crackdown on the Rohingya, on September 7, where he refrained from criticising the government for the atrocities being carried out on the Rohingyas.

On September 27, Myanmar claimed to have discovered mass graves containing bodies of 45 Hindu Rohingyas, including 28 bodies in one place, and blamed Rohingya insurgents for it. Most international publications and news agencies promptly ran the story, including all major Indian outlets. India Today and Daily Mail took it a step further and ran stories on the “forced conversion” of Hindus in the Bangladeshi refugee camps.

India on Friday asked Myanmar to bring the people linked to the Hindu carnage to justice.
Also Read- Who really attacked the Rohingya Hindus in Rakhine?
Maung Zarni, a Burmese academic exiled in the UK, on Tuesday told The Citizen that this development came after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s endorsement of Suu Kyi, adding, “I do not believe it at all, not at all.”

“Thousands have been killed, where are their bodies, their mass graves?” he asked.

“The information [about the corpses] has come from the Burmese military and government and not an independent source. If this is so then let the government bring in the United Nations to investigate these mass graves and determine whether indeed this crime has taken place at all,” he said.

Abdur Rashid said: “Myanmar initially tried to defend the ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in the name of fighting terrorism, which the rest of the world did not believe.”

“When Myanmar realised that its counter-terrorism theory was failing, it tried to label Rohingya people as Bengali terrorists, but in vain, as Bangladesh protested the issue vigorously,” he said.

Shahab Enam Khan, associate professor of International Relations Department at Jahangirnagar University, said: “The first question is whether the ARSA really is capable of killing a huge number of Hindus in Myanmar? Until now, it is just a tiny outfit which was suddenly made out to be a huge force by the Burmese Junta.”

“…Myanmar’s claim of Hindus being killed is an effort to dress it in the garb of Islamic terrorism and a ridiculous attempt to divert the world’s attention from the Rohingya genocide,” he said.

Myanmar government’s Information Committee on September 25, quoting an unnamed person, said 300 ARSA militants had detained some 100 people from Yebawkya village, killing most of them the same day.

Reuters, on Wednesday, while reporting that Myanmar authorities displayed the bodies of Hindu villagers they say were killed by Muslim insurgents, described them as ‘victims of a surge of violence in someone else’s fight, now playing their part in a propaganda war.’

On the same day, Human Rights Watch also published a statement critical of the discovery of Hindu bodies.
Also Read- Rohingya Hindu women share horror tales
“While Burmese authorities have put on a stage-managed tour to the Hindu village in question, as well as Rohingya villages unaffected by the recent violence, they have denied access to independent monitors to the mass graves and the rest of northern Rakhine State…,” it said in the statement.

The government’s quick conclusion on ARSA’s guilt contrasts sharply with its own unwillingness to credibly investigate countless alleged crimes committed by its own forces against Rohingya Muslims, it said.

“Burma’s government should stop playing politics with the dead. Beyond stopping military atrocities, it should allow the United Nations fact-finding mission into the country to investigate all crimes,” the rights body further said.

Maung Zarni said many powerful western countries have completely rejected Myanmar’s claim over the mass grave, however South Asia has bit into the narrative being put out by Myanmar, as was visible when Modi went and stood by SuuKyi despite strong world criticism.

“What is really scary is the Burmese military’s attempt to expand the circle of enemies against the Rohingya,” Zarni said.

Meanwhile, the editor and executive director of Myanmar Times, the oldest privately owned and operated English-language newspaper in Myanmar, Kavi Chongkittavorn, made some revealing statements about Myanmar’s position vis-à-vis the Rohingya.

“What is the role of media under the current government?” Chongkittavorn posed the question to himself during a panel discussion that ran from August 11 to 13. His answer: “The most important [role] is constructing the Myanmar narrative.”

“You read Aung San Suu Kyi’s comments, you read New Light of Myanmar, and you read everything that comes from the government. The government wants to construct the Myanmar narrative, which is still absent,” Chongkittavorn said.
“You need a massive [number of] people to believe the same thing.”
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/south-asia/2017/10/01/india-myanmar-convenient-hindu-graves/

 

[Banglar Bir]

Hitler/Nazi Symbols are popular in Myanmar and now Mein Kampf is made accessible in Burmese
By Dr Maung Zarni
RB Analaysis
September 25, 2017

Rakhine human rights activists have been found to be reading Mein Kampf when they were exiled along Thai-Burmese border towns such as Mae Sot.

Nazi symbols are often used publicly - with such public approval by those who want to exterminate Rohingyas in particular and all Muslims in general.

Rakhine political leaders and intelligentsia, including the Rakhine member of Kofi Annan Commssion - Daw/Mrs Saw Khin Tint - are often found speaking in genocidal discourses.

I have long developed a sensitivity to this genocidal discourses, having studied at the U. of Wisconsin at Madison with a former SS-interrogator, a historian of Nazi Germany the late Robert H. Koehl. (My main thesis adviser was Michael W. Apple, but Koehl and I had a shared interest in totalitarian regimes and ideologies that are used to justify them).

Myanmar's FAKE NEWS generated by both the gov. and the civil society
Do you know what "mirroring" means, in genocide studies?
Myanmar - gov and public - engage in genocidal Fake News.
The picture is about Myanmar Tatmadaw laying anti-personnel landmines.

The Burmese caption reads "ARSA terrorists laying landmines. Please report this to the Tatmadaw."
Genocide scholars have a term for this "mirroring", that is, attributing the genocidal killers' intent to the victims.

In the same vein as Myanmar's official and popular mirroring discourse (e.g., "Bengalis burn their own hoems") the Hutu Rwanda genocide perpetrators said "they (Tutsi victims) killed themselves. Because they didn't want to live with us peacefully).

In this genocidal context Myanmar journalists, cartoonists, academics, as well as techno-professional classes such as doctors, engineers, accountants, etc. partake in the country's orgy of genocidal violence, symbolically and literally.

Here is a cartoon by the nationally acclaimed cartoonist Aww P Kyael. He was admitted into a MPA program at Harvard's Kennedy School, on Aung San Suu Kyi's recommendation about 15 years ago.

Aww P Kyael
His cartoon depicts Rohingyas' cries as "crocodile's tears", crocodiles claiming they were 'forced to flee their native land".

Here is Irrawaddy News Group Founder and Chief Editor Aung Zaw engaging in genocidal denial (and he offered the most notorious interview with former Thein Sein Information Minister ex-Col. Ye Htut, helping the latter frame Rohingya issue as "jihadist' issue).

Ro Nay San Lwin
✔@nslwin
Former #Myanmar exiles & journos use hard-earned press and political freedom cheerleading military's #Rohingya #genocide. @drzarni
Besides, we have Oxford and Cambridge-trained professionals and researchers who also partake in this loathsome process.

This one (above) is reportedly proven Fake News - "Bengalis burn their villages down" - generated by aung San Suu Kyi's spokesperson, Director General in the President's Office ex-Major Zaw Htay. Suu Kyi's Fellow at Oxford was circulating it on her Facebook timeline, approvingly.

Another one is Aye Thein, former English teacher from Rakhine (see below):

"Eyewitness account of four villagers being attacked by machete-wielding Bengali mob. This man escaped, one sustained injuries and two (one his brother-in-law and another a relative of his were murdered).

Interview script (minus questions from the interviewer).
My name is [.…]. I am from Tarain Village. So, four of us left the village on motorbike looking for those who were missing. We didn't go far and given that we couldn’t find anyone, we just said to ourselves “All right, let’s go back”. On our way back, a mob of Kalars (Bengalis) brought down machetes on us. It was so cruel. We got separated trying to flee their attacks. Two of us escaped with one sustaining knife injuries. Sein Than Aung, the one with knife injuries escaped to this own village. My brother-in-law was killed and another one from the village named Ko Ko Thein was also killed. He was also a relative of ours. The name of my brother-in-law is U Aung Kyaw. I saw him being brutally killed (macheted to death) with my own eyes. The Kalar mob was 50-60 strong."
Both Khin Mar Mar Kyi, Aung San Suu Kyi Gender Research Fellow at Lady Margaret Hall (LMH) at Oxford and Aye Thein are involved with Oxford University-run Oxford Tea Circle.
They promote Fake News, provide justificatory analyses for demonization and dehumamization of Rohingyas and gloss over the genocidal nature of Burmese Buddhist racism and racist networks.
Eleven is run by medical doctor named Dr Than Htut Aung, a Rakhine.

This one (below) is from a former Chevening Fellow and a well-known head of a Burmese NGO - Zaw Oo (not Dr Zaw Oo, the former economic adviser to President Thein Sein). He was a member of the MultiCulturalist Network I helped founded inside Burma to fight the racism about 4 years ago. He is also publisher of "Myanmar Knowledge Society" and editor of "Democracy and Human Rights Journal".
The post depicts me as someone who is telling the world lies about Rohingyas.

This one is from Miss Myanmar who will contest in the International Beauty Pageant.
What is the link between former US Diplomat, Ne Win's grandson Aye Ne Win, this beauty queen and Rohingya genocide?
When she was head of US Embassy - sub-Ambassador post - in the early 2000's - Priscilla Clapp spent most of her time playing golf with the killer-Tatmadaw generals, and Ne Win's grandsons.
Miss Myanmar , said to be Aye Ne Win's girlfriend, joins the national orgy of Rohingya genocide; cites former diplomat who played golf with killer-generals
https://www.facebook.com/ShweEainSiOfficial/videos/1695486453826524/
This one is from Dr Maung Aye Myo, an army-bred well-known expert on the Burmese military affairs and lecturer in international relations in Japan.

8888 former student leader Mya Aye attacking falsely Rohingyas as "greedy Islamicists" who want a separate state!