Hindi people's envy of Tamil antiquity and Indian gov refusal to contribute to Tamil Chair Harvard

[TheBlackCoat]

Indian s spending every years 100s of crores to fund Hindi studies abroad (tax money from Hindi and non-Hindi peoples). But all expenses for Harvard Tamil chair is borne by Tamils. This is discrimination. Slavitude. Outrageous.

Like Catalonia, Tamil Nadu assembly should declare independence. I know Indian army will move in massively. OK. We will wait for right time to evict occupiers.

Most of the Tamil people are Christians. My country should support independence of oppressed Tamil people in India and Srilanka.

 

[Radio Mirchi]

Kuchh Baat hai ki hasti mit thee nahi hamari,
Sadiyon raha hai dushman dour-e-zaman hamara.

Poet Iqbal on India

 

[manlion]

not Hindi or Sanskrit its Tamil

 

[manlion]

Tamil letters on an international human model

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Huh? how many people speak Tamil in all? Not more than 80 million world wide. Punjabi is spoken by 100 + million people. I don't see Punjabis demanding Indian government's support for promotion of Punjabi. If they need to support it, they spend their own money. Why all these Tamil supremacists are so tight fisted? Or are you too poor? And, no Tamil is no better than any other language.

 

[manlion]

US Tamils pin hopes on ‘home’ for Harvard chair
October 4, 2017, 7:00 AM IST G Olivannan in Tracking Indian Communities | Dravidian, Roots & Wings | TOI

As reputed indologist David Shulman, puts, “Tamil is one of the world’s major languages, and the only South Asian language to have evolved continuously from a very ancient past while remaining a living contemporary language spoken by tens of millions of people. Its literary tradition is among the nest in human civilisation, encompassing marvellous love poetry, epic, philosophical texts, reflexive sciences of grammar, logic, and poetics, historiography, and an enormous religious literature.”

The antiquity of the language whose richness still awes scholars is just one of the many reasons that have encouraged Tamils in the US to pitch for a permanent chair (professorship) for the language at the Harvard University. “Besides livelihood, the purpose of education is also to create an intelligent and civilised society, teach cultural values and develop scholars,” says S T Sambandam, one of the initiators of the campaign, explaining the significance of such a chair to Tamils.

With institution of the chair estimated to cost around 6 million USD (`40 crore), the fundraising committee so far has just crossed the halfway mark, collecting close to 3 million USD.

“Being one of the classical languages, Tamil draws the interest of foreigners. The interest for the study of Sangam and other literary works has also grown in recent times. The demand for the study of Tamil would also facilitate translation of Tamil books into other world languages,” says Soma Illangovan, who has been living in the US for the past 40 years.

With around 10,000 schools students currently studying Tamil as a second language in the US, Vijay Janakiraman, co-initiator of the Harvard Tamil chair campaign says the chair will encourage more students to take up Tamil, leading to a cascading effect on Tamil communities living across the world.

While raising funds for the chair is no joke, what keeps fund raising committee members going is the success story of the Tamil chair at the University of California in Berkeley. The chair was instituted in 1996 after Tamil communities in North America successfully raised 425,000 USD. Some of the major activities of the chair has been starting Tamil font encoding schemes and partly funding digitalisation of ancient literary works including those from the Sangam era. The chair also invites Tamil scholars from different parts of the world for lectures.

While Sambandam and Jayasankar have jointly contributed 1 million for the chair, major contributions have come from Tamils in Toronto and Canada and from NRIs in other communities. Tamil cinema personalities like Suriya, R Madhavan, Mysskin and GV Prakash Kumar too have done their bit.

Committee members, however, rue that no support has come from the Tamil Nadu government yet, although former chief minister J Jayalalitha had promised to contribute 50% of the required funds for the proposed chair.

They feel help should come without much delay. Lest the Harvard Tamil chair committee fails to raise the required funds before June 2018, the Harvard University would cancel the proposal for the chair.

The million dollar question is would the Tamil Nadu government pitch-in in time to fulfill Jayalalitha’s commitment and the dreams of the Tamil diaspora.

A R Rahman's Harvard Tamil Chair fund raising Toronto concert

 

[takeiteasy]

Tamil is surely an old language and may be, part of the real Indian culture, before Aryan invasion happened. They talk about lost continent of Kumari khandam and their glory. Hindi-Hindu-Hindustani is what generally Hindi speakers acknowledges; Rest are seen as threats. There seems to be growing resentment on Hindi/Urdu imposition in South India especially Bangalore and Karnataka apart from Tamilnadu.

 

[manlion]

Vijaya Sambandam, Saravanan Chidambaram, Todd Krohne and Odi Odayappan presentation of Check from Tamil Nadu Government of US$ 1,537,929.18 to Harvard University for Harvard Tamil Chair. Given on Nov,27,2017 at Cambridge,Massachusetts. Todd represented Harvard and Ms. Vijaya, Mr. Saravanan and Mr. Odayappan represented Tamil Chair Board.

 

[punit]

If demand for one such chair is accepted every other states will rise a demand for same. So contact state govt for such demand. If they distribute Color TVs during election they can arrange money for this as well.

 

[manlion]

If demand for one such chair is accepted every other states will rise a demand for same. So contact state govt for such demand. If they distribute Color TVs during election they can arrange money for this as well.

not based on demand , to have a chair in Harvard, the language needs to satisfy 11 criteria, Tamil is the only language that fulfills all the 11 required criteria.
This video will help facts sink into your head, in case you conveniently missed by earlier post #4

 

[livingdead]

hindi speakers have zero knowledge about tamils to be envious of... to them everybody south of vindhya is madrasi....
that said govt of India should promote other languages too... nobody is conspiring against tamils lol.. nobody gives a sh*t about tamils... which actually much worse...

 

[punit]

not based on demand , to have a chair in Harvard, the language needs to satisfy 11 criteria, Tamil is the only language to fulfill all the 11 required criteria, perhaps this video will help facts sink into your head, in cased you conveniently missed by earlier post #4

Don't spread these bull shit.only language chair from india is sanskrit chair established in 1903

 

[manlion]

Don't spread these bull shit.only language chair from india is sanskrit chair established in 1903

Burnol moment

Tamil is not only from India .... Sanskrit is not native to India

Statement by Prof. David Shulman

The initiative to found a Chair for Tamil studies at Harvard is a very welcome one, long overdue. Tamil is one of the world's major languages, and the only South Asian language to have evolved continuously from a very ancient past (some 2000 years of astonishing cultural activity) while remaining a living contemporary language spoken by tens of millions of people.

Its literary tradition is among the finest in human civilization, encompassing marvelous love poetry, epic, philosophical texts, the reflexive sciences of grammar, logic, and poetics, historiography, and an enormous religious literature. An infrastructure for Tamil already exists at Harvard; a chair in Tamil will formalize this humanistic field there and impact upon the study of South Asian civilization in other major academic centers throughout the world.

A great university that offers deep study of Chinese, Arabic, Greek, Hebrew, Persian, and many other critically important languages should find a place for Tamil, which belongs in this prestigious series. In a period when chairs in Tamil studies are endangered in several important universities, for the usual reasons, the creation of a Chair for Tamil at Harvard would be a signal to the academic world that south Indian civilization matters, and that Tamil itself merits the depth of scholarly interest that Harvard, perhaps more than any other institution, can provide.

 

[punit]

Tamil is not only from India .... Sanskrit is not Native Indian

Burnol moment

Statement by Prof. David Shulman

The initiative to found a Chair for Tamil studies at Harvard is a very welcome one, long overdue. Tamil is one of the world's major languages, and the only South Asian language to have evolved continuously from a very ancient past (some 2000 years of astonishing cultural activity) while remaining a living contemporary language spoken by tens of millions of people.

Its literary tradition is among the finest in human civilization, encompassing marvelous love poetry, epic, philosophical texts, the reflexive sciences of grammar, logic, and poetics, historiography, and an enormous religious literature. An infrastructure for Tamil already exists at Harvard; a chair in Tamil will formalize this humanistic field there and impact upon the study of South Asian civilization in other major academic centers throughout the world.

A great university that offers deep study of Chinese, Arabic, Greek, Hebrew, Persian, and many other critically important languages should find a place for Tamil, which belongs in this prestigious series. In a period when chairs in Tamil studies are endangered in several important universities, for the usual reasons, the creation of a Chair for Tamil at Harvard would be a signal to the academic world that south Indian civilization matters, and that Tamil itself merits the depth of scholarly interest that Harvard, perhaps more than any other institution, can provide.

Centre is not going to repeat the mistake of classical language bullshit and open another pandora box.
Try convincing a kannadiga or telugu or malyali speaker why tamil is superior to their languages and then approach centre.

 

[manlion]

Centre is not going to repeat the mistake of classical language bullshit and open another pandora box.
Try convincing a kannadiga or telugu or malyali speaker why tamil is superior to their languages and then approach centre.

Tamil is not dependent upon India/Indian's acknowledgment or support, nor does it require endorsement from inferior languages including Sanskrit

India wasn't the first place Sanskrit was recorded – it was Syria

https://scroll.in/article/737715/fa...irst-place-sanskrit-was-recorded-it-was-syria

refer my post #12

Demand for classical language status for Kannada under consideration

https://ellakavi.wordpress.com/2007...guage-status-for-kannada-under-consideration/

Kerala demand for classical language status for Malayalam

https://www.oneindia.com/2011/01/14...ical-language-status-formalayalam-aid0126.htm

Tamil was the first Classical Language of India. The government declared Tamil (in 2004), Sanskrit (in 2005). These two languages are undoubtedly parental sources for many languages belonging to the Indo-European family and the Dravidian family of linguistic groups. Later the government declared Kannada and Telugu (in 2008) as classical languages of India.In 2013, Malayalam was also given status of classical language. In 2014, Odiya was also given the status of Classical language.

With this the following six languages are included in the list of Classical Languages:

1. Tamil (since 2004)
2. Sanskrit (since 2005)
3. Telugu (since 2008)
4. Kannada (Since 2008)
5. Malayalam (since 2013)
6. Odiya (since 2014)

https://www.gktoday.in/classical-languages-of-india/

"Tamil only classical language that had survived all the way to the modern world"