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Uhm define "discovered Japan", because I am pretty sure Japan had existed even before Commodore Matthew C. Perry forced them to open up.
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Columbus "discovered" America. It is in the past, it's history.Like how Columbus discovered America?
Seem like the Japanese got off easy.
Or did they?
No...she means Japan is a vassal state and United States can do whatever it wants with it.Wow!! You guys are all reading this so wrongly. She means the US beat the Europeans to trading with Japan. That's what she means by discovering them first. The Europeans have always been secondary to Japan ever since.
No...she means Japan is a vassal state and United States can do whatever it wants with it.
I don't, but then there's also the sleeping giant theory. They have a rich tradition of peaceful transfer of power, I expect another brexit like slight jolt and then we'll all be back to business as usual for the most part should he win.Don't underestimate the gullibility and blindness of the masses. Or the numbers that just want free money stolen from those with means and dont care about who's handing it over to them or what that means long term for their society.
There's a reason why revolutions that matter are generally bloody....humans are generally quite fickle and stupid.
I'd like to see what the split is like in the US. We will see on Nov 8th I guess.
Really, I don't think so. I have not misread.
You don't claim a place just because you trade with them.
Ah! I forgot, the Europeans have "foreign concessions" in China because they trade there.
These concessions were "given" to them, LOL.
Hillary Clinton said:SECRETARY CLINTON: I think that -- you know, one of the greatest arguments that I had on a continuing basis was with my Chinese counterparts about their claim. And I made the point at one point in the argument that, you know, you can call it whatever you want to call it. You don't have a claim to all of it. I said, by that argument, you know, the United States should claim all of the Pacific. We liberated it, we defended it. We have as much claim to all of the Pacific. And we could call it the American Sea, and it could go from the West Coast of California all the way to the Philippines. And, you know, my counterpart sat up very straight and goes, well, you can't do that. And I said, well, we have as much right to claim that as you do. I mean, you claim it based on pottery shards from, you know, some fishing vessel that ran aground in an atoll somewhere. You know, we had conveys of military strength. We discovered Japan for Heaven sakes. I mean, we did all of these things.
MR. BLANKFEIN: These are more technical conversations than I thought they would be.
(Laughter.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, yes. And then he says to me, well, you know, we'll claim Hawaii. And I said, yeah, but we have proof we bought it. Do you have proof you brought any of these places you're claiming? So we got into the nitty-gritty of --
Wow!! You guys are all reading this so wrongly. She means the US beat the Europeans to trading with Japan. That's what she means by discovering them first. The Europeans have always been secondary to Japan ever since.
I think she meant we opened Japan up to trade. Japan became isolationist , and we sent Matthew Perry to open Japan to trade and Westernization.
people gotta release Clinton has two faces!! one she shows to the public another that is the real person.....that is vile and evil.
Thats wrong too then. There were portuguese and I believe dutch trading missions that predated the forcible opening of Japan by Commodore Perry.
A pity the USN no longer uses the Commodore rank btw.
Just having a little fun at Hillary's expense bro
Brought it back...A pity the USN no longer uses the Commodore rank btw.
Captain Young currently serves as Commodore of LCS Squadron Two, based in Mayport, Florida.
Well the Portugeuse did slave trading in China (took over Macau mid 1500's), Korea, and Japan in the late 1500's so you probably are correct.