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Hilarious! Kashmir is being discussed in KL summit and Pakistanis are nowhere.

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Which Muslim country has followed the footsteps of Malaysia and Turkey ? Without Saudis petroleum cars in Pakistan would have no fuel. I hope you figured out other modes of transport. Ask Malaysia and Turkey if they are willing to cut economic ties with India and see what response they get. Talk is cheap. For starters Turkey has been dragging their feet on a free trade agreement with Pakistan. Turkey is selling you overpriced military hardware and Malaysia is selling you palm oil. They are trying to curry favors with a customer.

Irrelevant.

The biggest take out of this is the fact Turkey, Malaysia and Iran are going to make Kashmir an Ummah issue.
 
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Imran Khan is looking really stupid and confused.
Hope Imran Khan makes up for it and does'nt ruin our very important allies Turkey and Malaysia who both have faced pathetic boycotts by Indian traders and travel agents.
Indian traders in stupid protest decided not to buy palm oil from Malaysia and used Mahathir support for Kashmir as excuse to buy palm oil on discount, as its one of the topmost consumers of palm oil in the world. Same with Turkey where lot of Indians travel for tourism.

That joker Foreign Minister pro-Indian Shah Mehmood Qureshi dropping out does'nt account for much. Imran Khan's absence is bad.
 
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Who are you trying to fool ? You cannot take billion of dollars and bite the hand that feeds you
Come back to this forum when Malaysia and Turkey give you a penny

Turkey is a 2nd tier state that has picked fights with practically everyone in the neighborhood
Malaysia is a functional country. It is fraction of Indonesia's size and heft. It cannot compete with Indonesia in the long run. This is their way of trying to stay relevant.

Pakistan will return the money anyway and provides military assistance, something very important in given conditions, how is that a weak position??? Turkey is 2nd tier state??? A NATO member and defence wise almost independent, with a history. They influence turkic people from xinjiang to russia and u call it a 2nd tier state?? Malaysia may not be as big as indonesia but is still a big market. Specially for defence equipment.
The point is if we did not "show narazgi" on their warming relations with india and trusted them that they will not harm our interests.... The same way they should have trusted us and believed that our relations with those countries wont harm saudi interests.
 
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This is all fault of previous rules. Had we been good economically, we could have attended that summit.



No fault of Imran..

If arabs pull out 5 billion dollars and deferred oil payments... Say good bye to economy.
Pakistan is so much in debt that PMIK can't even go to Malaysia to attend a conference for fear of offending the lenders and you want to attack India and take back Kashmir.

Do you know how much a war, even a limited non-nuclear one, will cost?

You need money for arms and ammunition, logistics, oil etc. You need to buy high resolution satellite images from China and they will cost a bomb. Just in one week the economy will grind to a halt
 
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Shame on Imran Khan for not attending.


not really ... this isnt a burger life.

Pakistan is so much in debt that PMIK can't even go to Malaysia to attend a conference for fear of offending the lenders and you want to attack India and take back Kashmir.

Do you know how much a war, even a limited non-nuclear one, will cost?

You need money for arms and ammunition, logistics, oil etc. You need to buy high resolution satellite images from China and they will cost a bomb. Just in one week the economy will grind to a halt

i think after losing 3 aircraft on 27 Feb realized how expensive war is and decided to back down given india's 600M million poor

thanks for sharing your experience.

I'm sorry but this is a massive mistake on IK's part. Here's a group who is ready to help him, has his back, wants to expand business in Pakistan, and also back him on Kashmir and yet he's running back to Saudi and UAE.
I get that IK has to do what's best for Pakistan, but I would argue that it's better to go with Malaysia and Turkey now-much easier now, then it will be in three to four years. Why?
1. IK is trying to build an export focused economy. Malaysia and the countries gathered can help boost Pakistani exports and to industrial investment. Doing it now means we see the dividends in 3-4 years, the economy will be on an upswing, and there will be no need to keep sending Pakistani citizens to the Gulf kingdoms-they will be more economically valuable at home because there will be jobs available!
2. The Gulf Kingdoms are largely corrupt and need to fall.
3. This eventually gets Pakistan out of the IMF cycle.

I'm not Muslim, so I won't comment on the religious aspects, except I believe it is better for Pakistan to trade-and have relations with everyone. They can't do that sucking at the Saudi's teats.




easier said then done...

may be we as Pakistanis did things right from day one we would not have these issues.

pay taxes
dont vote for idiots and crooks
follow islamic principles etc

When OIC could become a powerful forum, how can this shitty organization be powerful. All presidents of respective country need one phone call from their master to withdraw. RIP to this shitty organization.


as opposed some countries that all it took was a cup of tea for it to back down.


Of course, it's Pakistanis fault.

Imran Khan is an angel incapable of doing any wrong.


yes ... thanks to losers like Noonie Pig King Nawaz and Hyena Zadari...
 
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i think after losing 3 aircraft on 27 Feb realized how expensive war is and decided to back down given india's 600M million poor
Yes Pakistan had India by the balls, they won the air war and still released the pilot the next day. Such a great victory
 
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This is all fault of previous rules. Had we been good economically, we could have attended that summit.



No fault of Imran..

If arabs pull out 5 billion dollars and deferred oil payments... Say good bye to economy.

Its not about the 5 billion.

Its about the sustained remittances we get from the Gulf every year, they are worth more than 5 billion.
 
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Yes Pakistan had India by the balls, they won the air war and still released the pilot the next day. Such a great victory

correct 200%

Felt so sorry for the indians...

Even their americans pals didnt believe their silly horse shit airforce stories... (IAF shoot down F-16?... ha ha.... that too a PAF's elite CCS pilot. muhhahahhahah )

IAF couldnt bomb straight couldnt dogfight and in end back downed ... of course used back door diplomacy begging for their pilot to be released.


hey but... you did get a free cup of tea and shot your own helo... i guess in india it deseves a medal.

Who know if you had fell on your knees and begged publicly.......we would have handed that RAW terrorist Yadav who is still rotting in a Pakistani military jail.

Pakistanis do give a lot of charity to beggers.
 
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