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Hijab Styles around the globe

Look I don't care either way but I am bit of a sociologist and this is my observation. For non Muslim countries, its not the Hijab that's the issue. Its the public display of Arab culture conformity. Its not an Islamic headscarf to them, its an Arab headscarf. We could say this is a clash of civilizations.
This is a non-issue tbh, especially in Pakistan with each region being extremely rich in its own native culture.

The issue is Arab hegemony using Islam. We must counter it by creating an indigenous sect - not like Shia'ism - but just a native interpretation and nationalise it.
 
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Pakistani hijab :
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Syrian hijab :
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Libyan hijab :
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Palestinian hijab :
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The negative role is that these burqas and hijabs that are now in fashion among these modern "Muslimahs" make all Mujahid Memons as NATO-seeded mullah ghey bois.

Listen, Mr. "Mujahid". I am older than you and in my school years and two years of college where in the second year I dropped out there was not a single girl who wore burqa or this hijab-shijab thing. Not a single relative of mine wore them either. All this nonsense is modern, sponsored by you Tabligaandus since the mid-2000s. There was no stupid "Muslimah" enveloped in a burqa and claiming how it had "liberated" her. :rofl: Best for the "Muslimah" is to go a mullah hospital in Iran and do sex change because she doesn't like being the female that Nature made her, she is ashamed of it, so no point having a female face and body. She should become male and become the bum boi of all the mullahs in the city.



In the last three or so years you have become a proper dawah boi harrassing the people of Britain in parks and on the roads and embarrassing true Muslims. Now I don't you want to thread-ban me here because you couldn't counter me.

You thread-banned me once for being contemptuous about an Indian wrestler called "Great Gama" despite they being a useless breed of human and now you are into this mullahism by misquoting history and presenting untruths. Here is your beloved "The Great Gama" standing almost naked on the skin of a beautiful leopard killed for this wrestler's uncivilized, ugly and evil face and life. For what he was and for killing that leopard he should have been punished, with death :
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You mentioned Mesopotamia as being also a place where veiling and hijab existed. Now the Indus Valley Civilization in India was established by people from Mesopotamia it is said. Here's a female figurine from IVC. Can you show me where's the hijab ?
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And again South Asia, your ancestral place. You mentioned that hijabs have been existent "since the dawn of time" and you mentioned "Greco-Roman times". Then let me show that between those two times there was no hijab-shijaab in what is now Pakistan 2300 years ago at the top political, social and socio-economic level and I say this stupid hadith fanatics ( hadiths are fabrications and hear-say written more than a 100 or 200 years after the death of Hazrat Muhammad by mostly Iranis who carried their pre-Islamic Zarathusti culture filled with ritualism and priesthood ). Statue of two Greek ladies in the Mauryan court :
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And Africa you say. Other than the Libyan women above here are some photos of the Tuareg people from the Sahara. They are Muslim. Since you have championed Africa I want your wife, daughter and sister to look like them :
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The last pic is a modern painting of the ancient Tuareg queen, Tin Hinan. I want your family's females right from 13-year-olds to older to start a progressive company and you arrange for hijab'ed males to protect them. Just like in this scene. And the second last photo is of the Tuareg music group Tinariwen who I know from my days of listening the wonderful music programme on BBC World Service Radio called Charlie Gillet by the wonderful presenter of the same name. Your 15-year-old daughter should thus participate in a nice music group on an equal basis along with men, just like Tinariwen above. As you Capitalists say, deal ? :)

Here is the family of the great Muslim Socialist leader from Egypt, Africa, Jamal Abdul Nasser. This photo is from 1963, do you see a single hijab-shijaab here ?
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Cut to 2022. Sara Sabry of Egypt, an African, Muslim but human who wants democratization of access to space travel and she was an analog cosmonaut and in 2022 became the first Egyptian and African and the first Arab female space traveler. Not a hijab on her proudly plump arms. She has started an organization called Deep Space Initiative which will enable that democratization and be involved in space operations. She contributes to humanity, she will explore the Nature's universe :
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As against this Sara Sabry who is a hijabi whose max achievement in life is being a social media influencer and being a stupid basketballer. Stupid she will be till death. A parasite :
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A NATO-seeded mullah ghey boi like you must remember that all this hijab-shijaab in Indonesia was brought through the genocide of up to three million Indonesian Communists, supporters and sympathizers in 1965-66 done by Suharto and his mullah bois and the mullah ghey bois did this as always on the orders of NATO, in this specific case as recommended by the good doctors sitting in the British Foreign Office. Remember these words of the father of Mahsa from Iran forever. Mahsa was tortured and murdered last September by your mullah ghey boi buddies for showing hair through her hijab. When the father went to the remote graveyard where the mullahs were about to bury his daughter without telling him probably, he wanted to see her from close but the mullahs forbade him, because he would see her torture marks where the mullahs claimed they did not torture her to death. The father then shouted "You killed a girl for showing two strands of hair ???? I reject your Islam ! I reject it !". He said more, watch it :

So these haraam kay takkay mullahs first torture her and murder her for showing hair, all in the cause of "Islam", and then they dare try to bury her hurriedly by becoming all pious and invoking the Islamic god over the dead body of the girl they themselves murdered ??? :rofl:

Her murder sparked the start of the first female-led revolution in history whose slogans became "Zan, Zindagi, Azaadi" and "Marg bar dictator" ( Death to the dictator" and "Marg bar Khamenei" ( Khamenei is the chief mullah terrorist and oppressor of Iran ).

Islam has nothing to do with this burqa-shurqa, hijab-shijaab. Islam was a way to emancipate the female and not a way to imprison her. Please don't complicate it so change your life and become another Jamahir. I am azaad from the irrationalities of my family, my dog-loving neighborhood, my neighborhood's Tableeghis, Modi jee, and his deputy "Ameer-ul-Momin-e-Hind" Barrister Asadduin Owaisi saheb, and Tony B'liar.

So say with me - Zan, Zindagi, Azaadi !

Laal Salaam !



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Man whats your issue with women deciding to wrap a piece of cloth around their head? i know forced conformation and state atheism are one of the main objectives of communisn but seriously, why?
 
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Man whats your issue with women deciding to wrap a piece of cloth around their head? i know forced conformation and state atheism are one of the main objectives of communisn but seriously, why?

Jamahir’s obsessions range from space to Gaddafi to pussy. Who cares what this low class piece of shit says or thinks.

This ignorant **** doesn’t even know that Muslims learned how to pray from Hadith.. lmao

It’s a one stop clown show with him.
 
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Jamahir’s obsessions range from space to Gaddafi to pussy. Who cares what this low class piece of shit says or thinks.

This ignorant **** doesn’t even know that Muslims learned how to pray from Hadith.. lmao

It’s a one stop clown show with him.
Thank God I cannot see any of his mental diarrhoea now :D
 
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After reading this thread thaught I'd post this illustration - for burqa I do somewhat do agree with how it plays a negative role and it'll probably be good if it's banned
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But if I look at the hijab Styles from up above I see no issues from a secularist pov too
except for the fact that it's a relgious symbol and some secular states differ on it - In france and turkey before Erdogan relgious symbolism was against the secularist ideals of their country

While in US, UK personal freedoms were protected and that was secularism for em

Secular Nations need to figure out a way on how they approach it - imo unlike burqa hijab causes no practical issues in day to day life thus should always be allowed

Just like in Pakistan, in India most women wear a traditional hijab of duppata, it's a traditional hijab - would Indian state consider it a religious symbol or a cultural one which'd be allowed even if they follow the Turkish, French style secularism

@Paitoo @-=virus=- @jamahir

Women should be free to wear anything they want. My wife has to protect herself from the sunlight due to a condition that can be life threatening. So effectively when she steps out, she is dressed like a hijab wearing muslim woman and looks like one.

One must however remember that women's dress codes in the interest of 'morality' have all come as a result of the male gaze. In a world free of men, women wouldn't be wearing any hijab, niqab, burqa, abaya etc.

I have seen enough conservative societies where men roam around in shorts, 'bermudas' etc and women still need to be wrapped up.
 
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Man whats your issue with women deciding to wrap a piece of cloth around their head?

Unless the head cloth is to protect the hair and ears from wind or cold, or it is for occasional style, or it is for hiding hair loss, or it is for health reasons like the wife of Paitoo has to wear like he described below, there is no point.

Yes, some old cultures like in Russia and Eastern Europe wear head cloth or in older times in Turkey like the heroine in Ertugrul wears or women working in a field in Holland may wear it but it is wrong connecting it with Islam where it is not required because that is not what Islam is about. It is a contradiction that mullah'fied families do not allow their female members freedom to choose their man, freedom for her to divorce and freedom for her to remarry and these mullah'fied families especially in India do three hajjs in five years by taking interest-based loans and enslave themselves in an interest-based-economics system and act like dogs in other ways too which is all anti-Islamic but they do it nonetheless without ever thinking that they are being wrong but they try to justify their haraam lives by enforcing their female members into burqas and hijabs. In my neighborhood I see a five-year-old drowned into a burqa. And if case there is no burqa there is always this stupid hijab-shijaab thing. Doesn't it look ridiculous ?:
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i know forced conformation and state atheism are one of the main objectives of communisn but seriously, why?

1. Forced conformation ? :)
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2. In true Communism there is no State ( connected with the "Withering away of the State" desire ). Communism calls for the abolition of the State and for the masses to directly govern themselves. True democracy. Like was in the Libyan Jamahiriya.

3. It is true that many Communists since they are questioners naturally tend to never have felt the need to have theism in their lives or they reject theism at some point ( this last was the experience of a Communist leader in my city who told it to me ) but you can be a Communist but believe in theism. :)

Jamahir’s obsessions range from space to Gaddafi to pussy. Who cares what this low class piece of shit says or thinks.

"Low class"... Shows your Capitalist and feudalist mind. How different are you to the Hindutvadis who have been oppressing the Shudras, Dalits and the tribals for 3000 years ? :)

This ignorant **** doesn’t even know that Muslims learned how to pray from Hadith.. lmao

Actually I know that and that is why I reject the hadiths. You tell me, do you take the Quran as being one of the guide book for humans or you are a believer of the hadiths which are fabrications and hear-says that started to be composed a hundred years or more after the death of Hazrat Muhammad ?

Bukhari's hadith celebrates the ugly, filthy, murderous and evil dogs but condemns human female prostitutes. The primary hadith writers IIRC have been Irani and they simply carried over the ritualisms-filled ways of their pre-Islamic Zarathusti past.

Please read the document I have attached to this post. It is research into how later Muslims brought in ritualisms from other religions and it is possible that during his life as the first Muslim leader of the flock, Hazrat Muhammad tolerated a few of these ritualisms to keep the converted as Muslims instead of alienating them and driving them away.

Thank God I cannot see any of his mental diarrhoea now :D

Everyone on the internet who chances upon your posts will find them crass and irrational.

Women should be free to wear anything they want.

No. :) The clothing should be rational. Neither mini skirts on thin legs and the female tottering on heels nor the burqa. Both are an eyesore and create an unpleasant atmosphere, especially the burqa and this "hijab" thing which you see above.

My wife has to protect herself from the sunlight due to a condition that can be life threatening. So effectively when she steps out, she is dressed like a hijab wearing muslim woman and looks like one.

Yes, that is one legitimate use of it among the others I listed above.

But I had a thought ten minutes ago after reading your text that it is strange that you live with a situation of your wife suffering from serious ill health but sometimes you are Hindutvadi and Hindutvad is an ideology that has never been empathetic and thoughtful.

One must however remember that women's dress codes in the interest of 'morality' have all come as a result of the male gaze. In a world free of men, women wouldn't be wearing any hijab, niqab, burqa, abaya etc.

How ? Did you see the pictures of Nasser and Muammar above in my previous post ? And what about me ?

I have seen enough conservative societies where men roam around in shorts, 'bermudas' etc and women still need to be wrapped up.

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No. :) The clothing should be rational. Neither mini skirts on thin legs and the female tottering on heels nor the burqa. Both are an eyesore and create an unpleasant atmosphere, especially the burqa and this "hijab" thing which you see above.
That is your opinion, just as others have their own opinions. Clothing needs to be practical and sometimes safe (like for cabin crew) or complying with security (like not hiding face). Beyond that it's not our business if women wear shorts or shuttlecock burqa.

but sometimes you are Hindutvadi and Hindutvad is an ideology that has never been empathetic and thoughtful.
I don't believe in such labels for any religion. No individual is only bad or only good. Bad people also may have some redeeming qualities and vice versa. Each person is unique and straightjacketing them limits any sensible discussion. Liberals have for too long tried to shut up others because of this thinking. And I do not blindly oppose any party, if my reluctance to always bash BJP is what compels you to call me Hindutvawadi.

And what about me ?
What about you?
 
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That is your opinion, just as others have their own opinions.

My opinions are rational and natural so they will prevail. I am not wasting my life in competition-based schooling or wage slavery in TCS but in collaborating with progressives. :)

Clothing needs to be practical and sometimes safe (like for cabin crew) or complying with security (like not hiding face).

True.

Beyond that it's not our business if women wear shorts or shuttlecock burqa.

No, it should be our business. I won't allow humanity to be infected with filth. And you must question if the Afghan women themselves want to wear the Holy Shuttlecock Burqa in the manner that the modern Indian Muslim women are obsessed with or do the Afghan women spend their time either burning the burqa or discussing about the oppressions committed by the NATO-seeded Taliban ?

I don't believe in such labels for any religion.

Hindutvad is the world's oldest terrorist ideology and must be abolished for the good of humanity and to restore nicety in the universe. Imagine the bhagwa flag planted on Jupiter's ice moon Europa... :rofl:

No individual is only bad or only good. Bad people also may have some redeeming qualities and vice versa. Each person is unique and straightjacketing them limits any sensible discussion.

Like him ? :rofl:
New Delhi Telangana BJP MLA T Raja Singh's controversial statement has once again come to the fore on Sunday (January 29). He said that now there is a need to become a Hindu who cuts throats and not a bell ringer. The BJP MLA made this statement at a program of the Hindu Aakrosh Morcha in Mumbai.

Speaking in a program of Hindu Aakrosh Morcha, he said that names and numbers of Hindu girls are taken from Zomato, Rapido Taxi, Ola, Uber and love jihad is being done. Avoid buying goods from Muslim shops. I request Modi ji that 'Hum Do, Hamare Do' is acceptable to us, but it should apply to Muslims also.

According to the news channel ABP, the BJP MLA said, 'Hindus are requested to buy goods worth Rs 1 or Rs 1 lakh only from Hindu shops.' Earlier, in a program held in Pune, T Raja Singh had said, 'The cases of love jihad, illegal conversion, cow slaughter etc. have increased in the country. I demand the state government and the Center to bring a law against Love Jihad.

Liberals have for too long tried to shut up others because of this thinking.

I am not a liberal. :)

And I do not blindly oppose any party, if my reluctance to always bash BJP is what compels you to call me Hindutvawadi.

BJP is a terrorist movement. You are generally a sensible person so please stop supporting it and start condemning it. :)
 
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No, it should be our business. I won't allow humanity to be infected with filth. And you must question if the Afghan women themselves want to wear the Holy Shuttlecock Burqa in the manner that the modern Indian Muslim women are obsessed with or do the Afghan women spend their time either burning the burqa or discussing about the oppressions committed by the NATO-seeded Taliban ?

There should be no compulsion in clothing other than the reasons I mentioned above. I do not endorse Taliban forcing women to cover up. I am saying that women need to be able to decide for themselves what they want to wear, whether it is shorts or a burqa. That is my limited point. I myself dress very modestly, mostly unbranded kurtas and trousers, procured from local shops. I do this because I like to support small businessmen and because I believe that for me clothing is not a means to show my ability to afford certain brands. Similarly for some woman, a burqa may imply the intent to detach herself from the material assessment that clothing often brings with itself. Through their choice of clothing they may be trying to say 'don't judge me by how I look'. It is possible that they are wearing it to avoid the male attention in a lecherous environment. There could be many reasons.
 
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