High tech export: india is worse than Philippines

[Han Patriot]

LOL. OK so you dont know basic stuff and want to discuss seriously. Funny. This is the problem when you can only google/baidou to try keep up. Do you know what liquidity is? What a chain is? Put those together. "Credit" is just one type of it....wonder if you can list any others?

But there are some good stuff you mention in your post I have to say....problem is most people don't know how to sift and filter through it esp CPC'ers who want simple black and white verdict.

Then you simply go into repeat mode anyway thinking thats adding to any of your "argument".

Then these droners who got their behinds handed to them before on like the basic of basic things regarding PPP:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/india-and-china-a-gdp-comparison.455611/page-4#post-8812120

keep spouting their same one-line groupthink over here as though nothing happened. Like this one:

Seriously what is liquidity chain? . I have never heard of such a term. Liquidity and credit are two different things genius.

What Is Liquidity?
Liquidity is the term used to describe how easy it is to convert assets to cash. The most liquid asset, and what everything else is compared to, is cash.

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Credit is the trust which allows one party to provide money or resources to another party where that second party does not reimburse the first party immediately,

I am beginning to wonder if you really know what you are talking about. There is no such thing as a liquidity fueled economic expansion, you only have a credit fueled economic expansion genius.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Hi 82!
Pls give SP2012 some indigenous TBMs!!!
@Bussard Ramjet Could you find some?

I don't think so.

 

[AndrewJin]

I don't think so.

Yes you have, according to PDF RSS

 

[Han Patriot]

"Richer" implies per capita, cmon you should know better than that.

Why is is strange that total physical consumption of China finally reaches/surpasses a level of population 4+ times less given the relevant historical heritage?

Century of humiliation (and then more self inflicted pain for a while after) was an aberration in history, the rebound is of course going to be inevitable.

No, richer does not imply per capita, it can be nationally richer or individually richer. I did not say anything wrong when I said , 'WE' are already richer than US in PPP terms, since in nominal terms we are not.

And what has the century of humiliation or pain or whatever history got to do with an economic miracle? Remember India's century of hunger and open defecation is still on going and yet you still grew right?

Indians are always brilliant do not you know that?



Its between 2017 to 2020. Read the article. I do not know how would you react when we will get it. I expect a similar whine like we reached to Mars or we launched 104 satellite.

I will bet with you now, you won't have an indigenous exascale computer even in 2020. You dare? Yah, without NASA DSN , you think your primitive PSLV is any better than Chinese LVs? 104 NANOSATS? PICOSATS? Why not launch 1000 bolts...then you will have 1000 satellite floating.

 

[ashok321]

Philippines becoming more attractive to Chinese firms

 

[AndrewJin]

Indians are always brilliant do not you know that?



Its between 2017 to 2020. Read the article. I do not know how would you react when we will get it. I expect a similar whine like we reached to Mars or we launched 104 satellite.

Hey 82 brilliant guys

 

[randomradio]

I will bet with you now, you won't have an indigenous exascale computer even in 2020. You dare? Yah, without NASA DSN , you think your primitive PSLV is any better than Chinese LVs? 104 NANOSATS? PICOSATS? Why not launch 1000 bolts...then you will have 1000 satellite floating.

Now supercomputers.

That's another area primarily solved with money, not brains. Mangalyaan requires brains. Supercomputer requires money. It's that simple.

Another area where you need brains, not money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_pharmaceutical_exports

India is rubbing shoulders with the top countries in the world. Where's China?

 

[Han Patriot]

Now supercomputers.

That's another area primarily solved with money, not brains. Mangalyaan requires brains. Supercomputer requires money. It's that simple.

Another area where you need brains, not money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_pharmaceutical_exports

India is rubbing shoulders with the top countries in the world. Where's China?

1) Supercomputers using indigenous chips and software don't require brains? . So where are your brains? I don't see you creating your own processors.

2) There is minimal difference between a moon probe and a mars probe, even the launcher is the primitive PSLV. The key difference is deep space DSN. You can't reach Mars without that, why do you think you needed NASA's help? Where are your brains in developing heavy launchers?

3) Ever wondered where your APIs come from? Do you even know whatever generics you produce by copying the Chinese do it too?

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/g0...ontinues-to-lead-China-in-pharma-exports.html

http://ehealth.eletsonline.com/2017...pis-imported-from-china-is-harmful-for-india/

 

[randomradio]

1) Supercomputers using indigenous chips and software don't require brains? . So where are your brains? I don't see you creating your own processors.

Congratulations, we don't have so much money, but it can be done. A huge chunk of research for Intel happens in India after all.

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/n...-Indias-staff-are-into-RD-Kumud-Srinivas.html
If you include our subsidiaries, Intel India has around 6,000 employees, and a little over 70% of these do research and development (R&D) work in some form or the other. We are the third largest R&D site of Intel (the company spent $10.1 billion on R&D in 2013) and second outside the US, after Israel.

Here's one from 2008.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chip/articleshow/3491310.cms?intenttarget=no
The world���s largest chipmaker, Intel, on Tuesday unveiled its latest microprocessor for servers, designed entirely by its Bangalore team and developed in a record two years. The Intel R&D centre in Bangalore designed the Xeon 7400 series processor and it marked the first time that work on the 45 nanometre technology was taken up by the company outside its US home base. The six-core microprocessor is based on Intel���s x86 architecture.

Many of the Xeon family of processors were designed in India.

Here's a GoI owned processor.
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1328790
An R&D division of the Indian government is in line to receive about $45 million before June to fund the development of its first 64-bit microprocessor. The project would become the second in India to design a CPU based on the RISC-V instruction set, following the Shakti designs in the works at the Indian Institute of Technology in Madras.

So it's not a big deal to design a processor. The point is to make enough and use it, and for that money is required, the only major hurdle.

2) There is minimal difference between a moon probe and a mars probe, even the launcher is the primitive PSLV. The key difference is deep space DSN. You can't reach Mars without that, why do you think you needed NASA's help? Where are your brains in developing heavy launchers?

You don't need full scale DSN to reach Mars. Since the program was a success, if we had used only our DSN also it would have succeeded.

Your excuses are flimsy.

3) Ever wondered where your APIs come from? Do you even know whatever generics you produce by copying the Chinese do it too?

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/g0...ontinues-to-lead-China-in-pharma-exports.html

http://ehealth.eletsonline.com/2017...pis-imported-from-china-is-harmful-for-india/

Chinese APIs are cheap, that's why we import. It's because China's made so much investment in electricity that making APIs is cheap. See, again, it's about money. China makes cheap stuff, that's about it.

But we make better drugs, that's why we export more finished drugs. For that you need brains, not money.

 

[Han Patriot]

Congratulations, we don't have so much money, but it can be done. A huge chunk of research for Intel happens in India after all.

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/n...-Indias-staff-are-into-RD-Kumud-Srinivas.html
If you include our subsidiaries, Intel India has around 6,000 employees, and a little over 70% of these do research and development (R&D) work in some form or the other. We are the third largest R&D site of Intel (the company spent $10.1 billion on R&D in 2013) and second outside the US, after Israel.

Here's one from 2008.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-chip/articleshow/3491310.cms?intenttarget=no
The world���s largest chipmaker, Intel, on Tuesday unveiled its latest microprocessor for servers, designed entirely by its Bangalore team and developed in a record two years. The Intel R&D centre in Bangalore designed the Xeon 7400 series processor and it marked the first time that work on the 45 nanometre technology was taken up by the company outside its US home base. The six-core microprocessor is based on Intel���s x86 architecture.

Many of the Xeon family of processors were designed in India.

Here's a GoI owned processor.
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1328790
An R&D division of the Indian government is in line to receive about $45 million before June to fund the development of its first 64-bit microprocessor. The project would become the second in India to design a CPU based on the RISC-V instruction set, following the Shakti designs in the works at the Indian Institute of Technology in Madras.

So it's not a big deal to design a processor. The point is to make enough and use it, and for that money is required, the only major hurdle.

Firstly check out Intel Research China, smaller than the Indian operations due to technology sensitivity but since when is Intel technology Indian? You need to understand developing a processor is not a one man show, Indians are normally doing back-end design due to cheap labour, the higher end design are done in US and Israel.

If it's so easy, WHERE IS AN INDIAN PROCESSOR or completely domestic supercomputer. Your claim to be having a exascale super cowputer in 2017, WHERE IS IT?

You may can could should, but you don't have a single processor nor fab capable of making it. This is your pathetic technological state. Are your geniuses starving and shitting in the open?

You don't need full scale DSN to reach Mars. Since the program was a success, if we had used only our DSN also it would have succeeded.

Your excuses are flimsy.

If you don't need it, then why are you begging for NASA assistance?


What is stopping China then? You really think PSLV is state of the art comapred to Chinese LVs?

Chinese APIs are cheap, that's why we import. It's because China's made so much investment in electricity that making APIs is cheap. See, again, it's about money. China makes cheap stuff, that's about it.

But we make better drugs, that's why we export more finished drugs. For that you need brains, not money.

You think APIs are just cheap plastic? You don't even have the technology to make a lot of the key APis, you have either the choice of importing from Europe or China. We make both generics and APIs, and we exported 6bil$ of it despite our lingual and approval weaknesses. Indian pharma industry started exporting to the west in the 80s the same time Deng opened up China, exposed to FDA rules earlier and easier due to English. There is nothing advanced in copying drugs genius. The Chinese Pharma industry is many times larger than India serving primarily the domestic market since WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST MARKET. India does not respect the IP rules and copy blatantly and exporting it, China copies but only consume locally due to restriction by the West.

 

[randomradio]

Firstly check out Intel Research China, smaller than the Indian operations due to technology sensitivity but since when is Intel technology Indian? You need to understand developing a processor is not a one man show, Indians are normally doing back-end design due to cheap labour, the higher end design are done in US and Israel.

If it's so easy, WHERE IS AN INDIAN PROCESSOR or completely domestic supercomputer. Your claim to be having a exascale super cowputer in 2017, WHERE IS IT?

You may can could should, but you don't have a single processor nor fab capable of making it. This is your pathetic technological state. Are your geniuses starving and shitting in the open?

I already told you, we have the capability for it, no money.

You made your first supercomputer on your own as a $11T economy, we will do it before we are a $5T economy. That takes brains.

If you don't need it, then why are you begging for NASA assistance?


What is stopping China then? You really think PSLV is state of the art comapred to Chinese LVs?

Is this high IQ Chinese?

You think APIs are just cheap plastic? You don't even have the technology to make a lot of the key APis, you have either the choice of importing from Europe or China. We make both generics and APIs, and we exported 6bil$ of it despite our lingual and approval weaknesses. Indian pharma industry started exporting to the west in the 80s the same time Deng opened up China, exposed to FDA rules earlier and easier due to English. There is nothing advanced in copying drugs genius. The Chinese Pharma industry is many times larger than India serving primarily the domestic market since WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST MARKET. India does not respect the IP rules and copy blatantly and exporting it, China copies but only consume locally due to restriction by the West.

Now you are just making up excuses.

 

[Han Patriot]

I already told you, we have the capability for it, no money.

You made your first supercomputer on your own as a $11T economy, we will do it before we are a $5T economy. That takes brains.

Apparently you don't know we spent nearly 2 decades researching our own processors and supercomputers before we got where we are today. And you geniuses just talk about achieving that, if you are so smart, you won't be learning from us to freaking store grain and distribute them nor ask us to do HSR studies for you. Really high IQ Indians indeed.

Why don't you have money, going by your logic that you are geniuses, shouldn't you be making money and be richer than China?

Is this high IQ Chinese?

It's already proven the average Chinese IQ/East Asians are amongst the highest in the world. We only lack the mouth power abilities that typical Indians exhibit.

Now you are just making up excuses.

Those are not excuses, those are facts, 6bil$ generics drug export versus 12 bil$, not including billions more in API exports. Ranbaxy and gang had been in US markets since the 80s.

 

[AndrewJin]

Apparently you don't know we spent nearly 2 decades researching our own processors and supercomputers before we got where we are today. And you geniuses just talk about achieving that, if you are so smart, you won't be learning from us to freaking store grain and distribute them nor ask us to do HSR studies for you. Really high IQ Indians indeed.



It's already proven the average Chinese IQ/East Asians are amongst the highest in the world. We only lack the mouth power abilities that typical Indians exhibit.


Those are not excuses, those are facts, 6bil$ generics drug export versus 12 bil$, not including billions more in API exports. Ranbaxy and gang had been in US markets since the 80s.

Some people are backward for a reason.

 

[randomradio]

Apparently you don't know we spent nearly 2 decades researching our own processors and supercomputers before we got where we are today. And you geniuses just talk about achieving that, if you are so smart, you won't be learning from us to freaking store grain and distribute them nor ask us to do HSR studies for you. Really high IQ Indians indeed.

We have already started it. I even gave you a link for it.

Here's another.
http://rise.cse.iitm.ac.in/shakti.html

Why don't you have money, going by your logic that you are geniuses, shouldn't you be making money and be richer than China?

We do not chase foolish pursuits like you do. Our nation doesn't need to chase excellence like CCP does, excellence follows us.

It's already proven the average Chinese IQ/East Asians are amongst the highest in the world. We only lack the mouth power abilities that typical Indians exhibit.

Don't worry, you beat us in that department successfully.

Those are not excuses, those are facts, 6bil$ generics drug export versus 12 bil$, not including billions more in API exports. Ranbaxy and gang had been in US markets since the 80s.

More and more excuses.

 

[Tauren Paladin]

This is embarassing for India. A poor lowly populated country exports higher quality goods than the 7th largest economy.