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Heckler & Koch embargo on Turkey!

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strange move and not exactly the best strategy! But now so many nations are manufacturing rifles so the share of the market making rifles is shrinking....or increasing
 
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This is a warning. They could get other companies to follow suite, which I hope happens. Then perhaps finally we can start getting more serious on defense.
 
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During Cyprus Operation, USA embargo on us caused a defense giant born, Aselsan... Well played, Germany :enjoy:

With the agreements we have, with Heckler & Koch, on production of existing models, it will cost the company in millions if this includes this.. if it doesn't as I've said MKEK produces immediate replacements for what we use made by Heckler & Koch, like the BORA-12 (JNG-90), MPT-76 ... I also remember watching a documentary showing corner-shot (with Display) and 5.56mm variations of these MPT's to upgrades of the MP5 Submachine gun (lol like the MKE-Z5P), TBA-6R1 40mm revolving grenade launcher, 7.62 MG3 Machine gun, MTU machine gun, MTS machine gun with silencer.. etc... the industry already exists, they will just stamp them out faster.. so Heckler & Kock has so kindly created a market for us in those countries they wont sell to... :-)

This is a warning. They could get other companies to follow suite, which I hope happens. Then perhaps finally we can start getting more serious on defense.

This isn't the 70's, 90's, or even the early 00's, making enemy Russia, and Turkey is a strategically dumb move.

Russian Invasion Could Overrun NATO in 60 Hours

Even if Turkey just refuses to take part in defense of EU NATO countries, that would chop off 20-30 hours of that 60hour estimate, if Turkey joins up with Russia how many hours does that chop off that number? I joked about it just yesterday saying "the meeting place could be either Prague, or Vienna... then to Berlin".. Honestly all of these acts and maneuvers are bad desperate moves by countries in a spiral downfall that are still trying to cling on to ideas of their own 'racist' delusions that they are some how better than the average person living in any part of the globe...

As for Turkey well the industry should have developed not now, but back in the 50's 60's when things were obvious on what the intentions of the west was..
 
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Anyone surprised by this?:lol:
I see this as a positive, now we know where we stand.
 
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Without selling weapons to India they will destroy their selling prospect. Why suddenly they become aware of democracy, for many years they were selling everything to them. When they found countries are not serving their purpose this kind of declaration comes. I hope turkey will not Hart by this decision and their already successful defense industry will success further.
 
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They are just a bit mad, because Turkey is competing with them and taking some market shares from them, the same is happening to them with Brasil and South Africa..
 
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Without selling weapons to India they will destroy their selling prospect. Why suddenly they become aware of democracy, for many years they were selling everything to them. When they found countries are not serving their purpose this kind of declaration comes. I hope turkey will not Hart by this decision and their already successful defense industry will success further.

Turkish ministry of foreign affairs did say, that it was hoping that European countries wouldn't become what they were prior to WW2, i.e. racially intolerant to all foreigners. But logic has left some countries completely (Austria, UK), so far with Germany this is the only company.

They are just a bit mad, because Turkey is competing with them and taking some market shares from them, the same is happening to them with Brasil and South Africa..

Turkey produces their weapons under license, from which they profit. Now they're shooting themselves in the foot, as Turkish manufacturers will decimate them with Turkish weapons, considering that MKEK sells its products even to countries like the US.
 
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Germany To HK: You Suck, And We Hate You
Posted at 7:47 am on September 10, 2015 by Bob Owens
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Tired of G36s with zeros that wander more than Josh Duggar’s eye at a family reunion, the Bundeswehr is giving their current-issue assault rifle the heave-ho:

Germany has decided to entirely replace the recently troubled Heckler & Koch (HK) G36 as the country’s service rifle, Katrin Suder, German State Secretary for Defence Procurement, told the defence committee of the German parliament on 8 September.

Suder told the committee that the decision to fully replace the rifle was based on the fact that “the G36 was procured with a service life of 20 years in mind, which will be reached in 2016. Furthermore, the current forces’ requirements by far exceed the potential of modifications that could be made to the G36”.

IHS Jane’s understands that, with the decision to replace the G36 taken, the German Ministry of Defence (MoD) is planning to introduce a new service rifle by 2019. To this end, the Defence Procurement Office (BAAINBw) has issued a note to industry and is already evaluating and screening the assault rifle market for a replacement.

The move comes after a technical evaluation by the government-funded Fraunhofer Research Institute reported in late March that the G36 failed to meet accuracy requirements both through “self-induced” heating (for example by firing the weapon rapidly), as well as increased climate-related temperatures in simulated environments.

Since 1996 HK has delivered 178,000 G36 rifles, which fire the NATO 5.56×45 mm round, in a range of variants for the Bundeswehr.

German soldiers have long complained that the G36 suffers from wandering zero when:

  • it’s hot outside
  • the rifle is fired enough to get hot
  • it’s a day of the week ending in “-y” in any country ending in “-stan”
HK at first denied there was a problem, and blamed the ammunition.

It appears that the German M0D is looking for an existing COTS (commercial, off the shelf) system to replace the G36 from existing assault rifles on the world market.

If you don’t “get” the headline, it comes from a snarky letter dropped on a gun forum by author and gun nerd Larry Correia.



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HK admits old design was a turkey in holiday message
11/28/16 | by Chris Eger
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In a mildly disguised attempt at self-deprecation, German firearms powerhouse Heckler and Koch poked fun on Thanksgiving at a revolutionary design that had come full circle.

“Happy Thanksgiving! How long do you cook your Turkey for?” posted the company on social media over a meme of one of their classic 1970s VP70 pistols in an oven, next to a similar picture of a newer model VP9 and the words “44 years at 350 degrees.”

The VP70, or Volkspistole 70, you should remember was the company’s polymer-framed, striker-fired 9mm handgun of the disco era. While it beat Gaston Glock’s G17 to the “plastic pistol” market by a generation, it never really caught on and was something of, well, a turkey. It plodded along until it was quietly discontinued in 1989, only garnering a few sales to third world military forces and limited import to the U.S. as the VP70Z.

HK went back to the drawing board and came up with the VP9/VP40, which so far as seen much more success. It was introduced in 2014– 44 years after the VP70’s debut.

Still, a used but not abused VP70Z, which were imported through 1984, are valued at about $750 in the latest Blue Book, which is a lot of cranberry sauce.



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you see war is coming..

Without selling weapons to India they will destroy their selling prospect. Why suddenly they become aware of democracy, for many years they were selling everything to them. When they found countries are not serving their purpose this kind of declaration comes. I hope turkey will not Hart by this decision and their already successful defense industry will success further.

but you see how stupid our ppl are they gave germans many business opportunity we have many german projects, german markets in turkey.. how stupid this ppl are.. they should have diversified their markets.. give korean, japanese and other the chance.. but no our idiots only want germans the most anti turkish ppl in EU after greek..

they have no dignity..
 
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Mpt-76 is NOT produced under licence, so we have our own rifle anyway. What is there that is sold by heckler Koch that we can't buy elsewhere or we ain't developing? Nothing
 
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