Hating PPP was easy, until ECP stepped in!

[Sugarcane]

• Fear of Articles 62, 63 pushes PML-N to reconcile with PPP
• Two major parties using back channel negotiations to save their tainted leaders
• Over 200 politicians, including Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif, Khursheed Shah, to become victims of pre-poll scrutiny

ISLAMABAD - With the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) announcing to ensure implementation of Articles 62 and 63 of the constitution in order to filter out those politicians who have been evading taxes, getting loans waived, and holding fake degrees, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) has initiated back channel negotiations with the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) to shoot down any such move.

A source in the ruling PPP told Pakistan Today that the PML-N had used back channels to convey to the PPP leadership its concerns over the ECP’s proactive approach on implementing Articles 62 and 63, thereby closing the parliament’s doors on top leaders of both the PPP and PML-N. “Surprisingly, the all-time hawk, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, has conveyed to us that both the parties should discuss a joint strategy to counter the ECP’s moves,” he added.

Another source in the PPP confirmed that top PPP leaders were also thinking on the same lines. “We know that something is cooking up somewhere with a plan to blocking doors on our top leaders,” he added.

The PPP leader said that if a joint strategy was not evolved, there was a strong possibility that several PPP leaders, including Khurshid Shah, would become a victim of Articles 62 and 63 due to the fake degree case. “There are some others in the PML-N who would also be a victim of Articles 62 and 63,” he added.

He said there were strong chances that over 200 top politicians, including Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif, would become victims of the said articles due to cases of bank default and loan write-offs. He said that the ECP’s move to tighten the noose around politicians by implementing Articles 62 and 63 of the constitution in true letter and spirit had annoyed parliamentarians belonging to both the government and the opposition.

According to the source, the ECP seems adamant in implementing Articles 62 and 63, which would mainly harm the two major political parties – the PPP and the PML-N – as more than 70 percent of parliamentarians have not yet submitted their income tax returns.

The Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) and the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) have already assured the ECP of their help in identifying tax evaders, loan and utility bill defaulters and beneficiaries of loan write-offs, setting the stage for meaningful scrutiny of declarations of assets to be submitted by candidates.

In this regard, Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) Fakharuddin G Ebrahim also held detailed meetings with SBP Governor Yaseen Anwar, FBR chief Ali Arshad Hakeem and officials of the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) to filter out the tainted politicians. According to the decision, NAB would provide the ECP with the list of convicted politicians while the SBP would give the details of the defaulters on bank loans, and the FBR and NADRA would furnish the details about tax evaders.

However, the move has exposed the evil nexus between the two parties, as the two apparent rivals have resumed contacts to undermine the radical measures being taken with an attempt to cleanse the system of the corrupt.

Law Minister Farooq Naek, while speaking in the Senate a few days ago, had also warned the ECP that it should remain within its parameters and not exceed its powers.

Opposition Leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, the one-time supporter of the ECP, said that he would never submit his degrees to the ECP even if he was disqualified, reflecting that both the parties had joined hands to counter the move, the source said.

The source said that the stern reaction by the government and the opposition was the first real test whether or not the ECP had the power and the will to carry out a transparent and fair exercise to cleanse the system of rotten eggs. However, the CEC’s phone to Chaudhry Nisar regarding clarification of the ECP’s position gives the impression that the commission backtracked from its real stance and its neutrality.

A parliamentary committee led by PPP leader Jehangir Badr might approach President Asif Ali Zardari in this regard, the source said. Apart from this, the PPP-led coalition and its rival PML-N are firm on their demand of allowing a 14-day scrutiny period, instead of the 30-day period sought by the ECP.
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[Ayush]

@LoveIcon what exactly is article 62, 63

 

[BATMAN]

Funny part is judiciary was giving them protection until, nation came to know about the existence of such a wonderful law!

Dr.TuQ has caught every one with his pants down.

As far PTI is concerned Hashmi is history... due to his criminal background.

@LoveIcon what exactly is article 62, 63

62 defines the minimum basic qualifications for a member of parliament.

63 outlines conditions which set them them disqualified.

 

[Rafael]

The Noora Kushti has started folks.

 

[Leader]

The Noora Kushti has started folks.

when exactly did it stop? inka khameer aik hi hai !!

P.S.
@Tameem @Tiger Awan @cb4 any comments?

 

[Guvera]

Everyone criticized qadri for filing the petition in SC against ECP but time is proving that he was dead rite, fakhru bhai is nothing more than a Stuffed toy, he shown his weakness by calling CH Nisar. I dont see these 62, 63 either practically, what a shame.

 

[Leader]

Everyone criticized qadri for filing the petition in SC against ECP but time is proving that he was dead rite, fakhru bhai is nothing more than a Stuffed toy, he shown his weakness by calling CH Nisar. I dont see these 62, 63 either practically, what a shame.

please hold your horses...

as for implementing 62,63 is concern see

He said there were strong chances that over 200 top politicians, including Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif, would become victims of the said articles due to cases of bank default and loan write-offs.

our concern should be these people who waived off loans,admitted fake documents...

first they tried to get ECP to knees through court by TuQ's petition, now they are trying to disarm ECP through act of parliament,

if ECP is disarmed by pmln and ppp then know that TuQ was playing for them... not for awam !!

 

[Leader]

SBP says Rs256b, Commission claims Rs87b loans waived off in 38 years

The State Bank of Pakistan had informed the Supreme Court that Rs256 billion were waived off between 1971 and 2009, but the Justice (Retd) Syed Jamshed Ali Commission report says that Rs87 billion were written off in 38 years.

The Commission’s report says that loans worth Rs 2.38 billon were waived off between 1971 and 1991 whereas loans worth Rs 84.62 billion were waived off between 1992 and 2009. On 3rd June 2011 a three member Commission, headed by Justice (Retd) Syed Jamshed Ali, a former judge of SC, was constituted in respect of recovery of written off loans from 1971 onward and to compile a report.

The report not only recommended action against those who got their loans written off but also against the bankers and the officials who helped in getting the loans waived off.

The Commission has recommended that action should be taken against former Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and his wife Fozia Gilani, former president Supreme Court Bar Association Asma Jahangir and her husband Mian Tahir Jahangir, Riaz Lal Jee, friend of President Asif Ali Zardari, Ghulam Dastagir Khan, Islam-ud-Din Sheikh, Younas Habib, Jam Muhammad, Arif Habib, Ramesh Kumar, Chaitan Das, Khawaja Ghulam Ahmed Rashi, Abdul Ghufar Adam Jee, Zafar Sheikh and Farooq Sheikh, Rana Tanvir Hussain, Jam Muhammad Yousaf, Sardar Muhammad Jafar Khan Leghari, Umer Leghari, Yousaf Khan Leghari, Waqar Azeem, Sajjad Azeem, Shaukat Azeem, Abdul Qadir Tawakal, Mirza Iftikhar Baig, Arif Ali Khan Abbasi, Major General Farhat Ali Burki, Khawaja Muhammad Mehboob, Khawaja Ghulam Sulemani and others.

The reason that the bank and monetary institutions has given for writing off is only the business. Some of the persons obtained loans from the banks in a way that did not leave the fingerprints on them.

The commission also has given the details of the industries’ directors who waived off the loans. According to that Abbas Steel Industry of Riaz Lal Jee, close friend of President Asif Ali Zardari, Rs224.1 million, Riaz Lal Jee another company Orient Rice Mills got Rs261.8 million write off. Against Lal Jee’s Petro-Commodities Company there is Rs218million. Riaz Lal Jee’s Razik Engineering company got Rs11 million written off.

Ghulam Qadir’s Khalil Jute Mills got Rs405.6 million waived off. The commission has recommended to recover Rs49.5 million from Islam-ud-Din’s Kiran Enterprises. Younis Habib’s Company had to pay Rs2.47 billion. He had entered into an agreement with National Accountability Bureau to pay back the amount at the end of 2014.

Former Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and his wife got written of Rs45million. Jam Muhammad Yousaf’s Bela Ghee Mills’ got Rs.82.2 millions, while Asma Jahangir, former President Supreme Court Bar Association, and her husband’s Hala Spinning Mill got Rs50 million written off. Famous Broker Arib Habib’s Jet Air Textile Mills got Rs415.7 million, Ramesh Kumhar and Chetan Das’s Pak Absar Ban Industries got Rs44.1 million loan written off. Khawaja Ghulam Ahmed’s Rishi Textile Mill got Rs859.1 million. Abdul Ghafar Adam Jee and Akbar Adam Jee’s Adam Jee Garments waived off Rs239 million, Zafar Sheikh and Farooq Sheikh’s Adam Jee Industries owes Rs448.8 million. Rana Tanvir Hussain’s Batala Ghee Mill got Rs140 million, while Jam Muhammad Yousaf’s Bela Ghee Mills Rs48.6 million. The Commission has recommended that action should also be taken against the bank officials.

Sardar Muhammad Jafar Khan Leghari, Umer Leghari, Yousaf Khan Leghari’s Choti Textile Mills got written off Rs304.6 million, Waqqar Azeem, Sajjad Azeem and Shaukat Azeem’s Electro Information and Energy System got Rs62.7 million, Abdul Qadir Tawakal’s First Tawakal Mudarba got Rs628.6 millions, Mirza Iftikhar Baig’s Mumtaz Shahbaz Textile Mill got Rs100 million, Arif Ali Khan Abbasi and Major General Farhat Ali Burki’s Quality Steel Works got Rs981.6 million, and Khawaja Muhammad Mehboob and Khawaja Ghulam Suleman’s Linger Suleman got Rs271 million, and from Mian Muhammad Sugar’s Mills Rs584.9 million, Multan Adbail Oil Rs354.3 million got written off.

The commission could only probed 740 different cases, but has proposed that another 222 cases should also be probed as Rs35 billion has been waived off in these cases.

The report though found grave irregularities in loans given to politicians, civil and military bureaucracy, but could not get proofs about waiver on political basis, as bank officials conceal the facts because they were afraid of the influential persons. The bankers have given only business reasons for the writing off the loans.
During the proceedings in 2011 the court had observed that Circular BPD-29, which provided guidelines on write-off of irrecoverable loans and advances, though ended on April 14, 2003 but the banks still written off loans. The bank officers, who had waived off loans, were mangers also responsible in case the company or mills defaults.
The report consisting of three volumes – Volume I (Report of the Commission), Volume-II (Parts I to VII, synopsis of individual cases), Volume-III (Annexures of Volume I) – and the supplementary paper book (containing different correspondence).
“The Commission had received 672 loan files for the period 1992-2009. The Commission examined 620 files. Out of the remaining 52 files, 49 cases had been taken over by the Corporate and Indusruction Restructuring Corporation under Ordinance No. L of 2000, one duplicate file (Larkana Woolen Mills) was taken away by the concerned bank. One file contained the evaluation report of the properties subject matter of settlement of Younis Habib and the NAB, while the two files of M/s MAK Dyeing and Finishing Mills Limited.
The Commission has given four options, according to that only principle amount should be recovered from the person who got their loans written off, or the difference amount of the principal amount and the amount they had submitted. The tribunals comprising the on duty or retired judges of High Courts should be set up for the recovery of amounts. The commission has also proposed for legislation for the recovery of written off loans. The commission also recommended that action should also been take against the provincial credit committee. However it has given the final authority to the Supreme Court for recovery of loans.
The commission has given some options about the recovery of waived off loans but says the ultimate decision in this regard will be taken by the Supreme Court. The commission had to hold bankers responsible for extending short-term or long-term loan facility to borrowers on inadequate securities and to recommend steps to be taken against them. It had to suggest measures to safeguard the amount of loans against arbitrary concessions extended in the past either on political or other considerations.
The Supreme Court ordered the report be made public.

SBP says Rs256b, Commission claims Rs87b loans waived off in 38 years | The Nation


read the above report, this is why pmln and ppp are attacking ECP. Fakkhru bhai is not acceptable to them, they thought he would resign and then we will appoint our toady !!

 

[Tiger Awan]

more reports on speculation, keep them coming

+ would love ecp blocking some of our leaders. Sympathy votes

 

[Edevelop]

You guys are hilarious. Do you guys know Khawaja Asif of PML-N was involved in making the ECP ? He could have chosen people who were not serious...

 

[ajpirzada]

atleast this clearly shows that PPP and PML-N are the same and are willing to do anything to defy the implementation of the constitution if it goes against them. in short, only those constitutional clauses are praiseworthy - free from any conspiracy - and 'democratic' which leads them to power.

 

[BATMAN]

^^ Please, correct your Qibla!

It is ECP and Judiciary, who have to implement the constitution not the thieves.

To issue sentence is judiciary's job and my first question will always be, why ECP was sleeping for last 5 years?

Was it a mass negligence or muk muka?

Therefore, in any case, i want corrupt/inept ECP to be punished and their salaries be blocked.

Zardari is well-known for appointing corrupt & inept people as head of institutions.

You guys are hilarious. Do you guys know Khawaja Asif of PML-N was involved in making the ECP ? He could have chosen people who were not serious...

We all know how judges are appointed.... it was a an agreement of political parties.

 

[BATMAN]

please hold your horses...

as for implementing 62,63 is concern see


our concern should be these people who waived off loans,admitted fake documents...

first they tried to get ECP to knees through court by TuQ's petition, now they are trying to disarm ECP through act of parliament,

if ECP is disarmed by pmln and ppp then know that TuQ was playing for them... not for awam !!

NO No No... Our foremost concern shall be clean judiciary, and now we can conveniently question the dual national CSS officers, incl. judges and parliamentarians.

There shall be a party, which promote justice and believe in having all disputes... disolved through a clean and honourable judiciary.

In this country every one become enemy of a person, who show us the truth!

 

[ajpirzada]

^^ Please, correct your Qibla!

It is ECP and Judiciary, who have to implement the constitution not the thieves.

To issue sentence is judiciary's job and my first question will always be, why ECP was sleeping for last 5 years?

Was it a mass negligence or muk muka?

Therefore, in any case, i want corrupt/inept ECP to be punished and their salaries be blocked.

Zardari is well-known for appointing corrupt & inept people as head of institutions.



We all know how judges are appointed.... it was a an agreement of political parties.

wat is more important is that ECP has waken up. isnt it better to support them rather than complaining for the time lost and thus loosing more time?
secondly, it is the politicians who collude together to thwart any attempt which threatens them in any way. and so they must be brought to light by highlighting their collusion with each other and subsequently criticized for finding ways to manipulate law for themselves.

 

[BATMAN]

wat is more important is that ECP has waken up. isnt it better to support them rather than complaining for the time lost and thus loosing more time?
secondly, it is the politicians who collude together to thwart any attempt which threatens them in any way. and so they must be brought to light by highlighting their collusion with each other and subsequently criticized for finding ways to manipulate law for themselves.

You say correct, but i cannot trust a judiciary appointed as a result of mutual agreement of political parties.