Hassan Nissar

[asq]

If u look at the west even they talk about us as eastern countries creating problems by thier acts such as 9/11 and other.

And that gives the power to the leaders to go ahead with their agenda, so the crux of the matter is that if a country any where in the world acts in the way considered detrimental to their beliefs/structure and culture, they will have masses convinced and do whatever it takes to solve the problem facing them.

At first time when media interviewed Mushy, he was taken by the surprise and made fool of himself by showing up with dog under his arms.

Hasan has a point to a small extend, it realy is the failure of Leadership which is main rerason for our failuires, poverty and lack of all the services.

If one looks at the story of the world it is no differant than that of ours, so dumping on us is not the fair thing to do.

The point is that if a leaders is intelligent enough to withstad such interviews or would he create impression of dumness, and by doing so he will invite punishment for him and his people.

 

[Wounded Healer]

No doubt Hasan Nisar is a blatant liar and a munafiq. He distorts history by allegeding that all muslims of the past were criminals and terrorists "the whole Islamic history is full of muslim cutting each others throats". Not even the worst islamophobes in the west out there like Daniel Pipes make such baseless and absurd allegations.

There is nothing wrong with what Hassan Nisar has said, Islamic History is full of muslims cutting each others throats.

Many muslims nowadays think that the muslims of old were pious and deeply religious people, but what they fail to understand is that they were arabs first, and then muslims. As soon as Muhammad(pbuh) died, they began fighting and manipulating which resulted in the deaths of many, for a long time to come.

My advise to you is, read your History, and only then will you truly understand our religion, culture and the reason why many people dislike the propaganda spread by Zia-ul-haq and his minions.

regards,

 

[Indestructible]

There is nothing wrong with what Hassan Nisar has said, Islamic History is full of muslims cutting each others throats.

Many muslims nowadays think that the muslims of old were pious and deeply religious people, but what they fail to understand is that they were arabs first, and then muslims. As soon as Muhammad(pbuh) died, they began fighting and manipulating which resulted in the deaths of many, for a long time to come.

My advise to you is, read your History, and only then will you truly understand our religion, culture and the reason why many people dislike the propaganda spread by Zia-ul-haq and his minions.

regards,

That only happened because the rightful successors were not appointed after the death of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). And I agree with you. Read unbiased history.

 

[asq]

That only happened because the rightful successors were not appointed after the death of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). And I agree with you. Read unbiased history.

Now it may be so that rightfull owner were not installed, but that happened 1300 years a go, it is about time we learn from the history and do the right thing instead of killing each other for what happened back than.

We cannot change the history but we certainly can change the future if we act thoughfuuly in the way of Islam.

 

[All-Green]

That only happened because the rightful successors were not appointed after the death of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). And I agree with you. Read unbiased history.

It is not that simple, rightful successors is a very debatable thing if one dwells into the complexity of who is fit to lead whom and why.

After all i have studied i have come to the conclusion that whoever the successor was, they could not have done any better.
The Prophet PBUH himself told his companions when he saw their poverty that there will be a time when they shall have all the wealth they can imagine but will be worse off for it.

When you bring in power and wealth and all the plots associated with its acquisition, i do not see what better could have been done than what Abu Bakar, Omar, Usman and Ali did...
The larger the Islamic State grew the more serious the problems it faced from within, this is the fate of all states, all empires, all the nations even after a Prophet guides them to righteousness.

Time changes things...but the Muslims had the fire of seeking knowledge and pursuit of scientific and social advancement which they lost eventually.

The first message which reached the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was IQRA...to read...it was not to pray, it was not to fast, it was to read...and ALLAH swore by the pen in the first verses of the Quran...
Muslims were inspired to seek all knowledge of the world and that is something which upheld the light of knowledge and wisdom for many centuries...there were great scientists, inventors, mathematicians, astronomers, philosophers etc which made it possible for the Muslim State and later many Muslim States to be amongst the advanced nations of the time.

Now some people will have us believe that the knowledge and study of Quran alone is what the Prophet PBUH referred to as knowledge...that is absolutely incorrect and against the spirit of Islam.
Allah asks of us humans to unravel the mysteries of the universe and to uncover his miracles in everything, to observe the governing principles in everything...that is one of the most important messages of the Quran...for humans to use their intellect and reach for the stars.

The current Mullahs and many so called scholars of Islam do not let anybody argue with them and have absolute spite for the few scholars who want to research and present new point of views...people like Dr. Javed Ghamdi are branded as conspiracy against Islam...disagree with him if you want but why go down that road of branding someone and threatening him?
Do these Mullahs have a copyright over the Quran that another mortal cannot present his point of view and interpretation?
The self proclaimed champions of Islam with their tunnel vision and arrogance have ensured the even Islamic research is not something one does without adhering to the so called orthodox lines of thought.
They brand everything as invention of the Satan and see evil everywhere...these people have ensured that the thirst of knowledge is no more inspired by Islam in any way possible.

Even Allama Iqbal who was a poet and philosopher was branded a non Muslim by many such Mullahs...now they claim him to be a man inspired by Allah...in all honesty all true thinkers are men inspired whether they are scientists, poets, inventors etc...only if our Mullahs opened their eyes once more to the message of Islam, they will realize that they are the ones who have brought down the enlightenment once associated with Islam.

 

[Indestructible]

So you don't know who the successor was. If you don't, how can you say that they couldn't have done better? Go through the history and you will find that there were no internal problems faced during the government of first 3 caliphs that could threaten Islam. However, problems raised within the state were because of their own doings for personal advantages. I don't speak for anyone but I urge you to look into the era of the last caliph and you'll be astonished to see the differences in the nature of problems faced by inhis reign.

Your post speaks abut Muslims going astray and dividing. So where is the root of all evil? Where is the loose end? The leadership! What are we call crying out for? Why do we curse our leaders and their predecessors? We need a rightful and true leader! That is why! No leader came after the Prophet (PBUH) to guide us. The chain of leaders coming after the Prophet (PBUH) only brought war, divisions and retrogression. Don't you agree? The true successor was never acknowledged and I believe this is the main reason for our downfall.

I again urge you the read unbiased history.

 

[Wounded Healer]

So you don't know who the successor was. If you don't, how can you say that they couldn't have done better? Go through the history and you will find that there were no internal problems faced during the government of first 3 caliphs that could threaten Islam. However, problems raised within the state were because of their own doings for personal advantages. I don't speak for anyone but I urge you to look into the era of the last caliph and you'll be astonished to see the differences in the nature of problems faced by inhis reign.

This is a highly debatable issue. Do you really believe that the problems faced by the First Caliph were any less threatening then what the Fourth caliph had to face. False Prophets ring any bell? In my opinion, that was the most crucial/important act that the First Caliph played in bringing stability to Islam after Muhammad's(pbuh) death.

Similarly, one can say that the problems that the Fourth Caliph had to face were instigated by the same people who killed the Third Caliph, and it would have been better to deal with these people first and then later think about the Caliphate???

But the truth of the matter is that they were all human, they all made mistakes, and we here find it very easy to criticize and ignore the work and sacrifices all these Caliphs made for the Islamic empire.

Your post speaks abut Muslims going astray and dividing. So where is the root of all evil? Where is the loose end? The leadership! What are we call crying out for? Why do we curse our leaders and their predecessors? We need a rightful and true leader! That is why! No leader came after the Prophet (PBUH) to guide us. The chain of leaders coming after the Prophet (PBUH) only brought war, divisions and retrogression. Don't you agree? The true successor was never acknowledged and I believe this is the main reason for our downfall.

Its not only the problem of leadership, but rather the problem has deep roots in clan and tribal allegiances as well. Ummayyas, Abbasids, Fatimids etc., all gave rise to hatred against the other clan/tribe. But that is in the Arab nature. They love to fight and squabble. A famous Arabic poet once said,

"If we cannot find anyone else to fight with, we will then fight with our brother."

This is the main reason for the Islamic empires downfall, when muslims from different clans support the crusaders to help destroy their own brothers. That is where they went wrong.

I again urge you the read unbiased history.

Same goes for you too brother.

regards,

 

[Durran3]

Here is another straight up clip that couldn't be more truer

 

[Zee-Gen]

He can criticize existing system or people or even Muslims the way he wants or can, but it’s beyond my imagination that why and how the hell he is trying to portray our ancestors a “bad guy.”

“Your whole history comprises on the beheading of each other”

Whose not….?????.....going through history, one can clearly understand the behavior of kingdoms and the way this kingcraft’s system ruled all over the world….!!!!

History should be taught as it is, no doubt, but here Hassan Nisar is downright involved in distortion of the facts and is portraying just one side of the picture, which is negative without realizing the fact that the standard of making judgment about king or ruler or warlord is not his involvement in conspiracies, plotting or even killing in the palace, but instead the behavior towards layman, the way he rules………how many Muslims rulers we praise for their personal lives….?????......even today, our politicians or leaders are good or bad not for how they behave in their personal lives or inside home, but instead for their decisions, thinking and ability to lead.

Personal rivalry and spreading of kingdoms by force was the trend from the start of the mankind, it’s not only Muslims who were involved in towing the same lines, but every other kingdom committed the same crime, if it was……..The matter of fact is not the wars or beheading, but instead how a ruler ruled during his tenure is more important.

Here I am giving you people an example……..Ali Gurshap (Alauddin Khilji) committed murder of one of his uncle and involved in disabling several of his family members to capture the kingcraft……..but he was the same man who introduced quality and price control culture in the society…….who most often even visited the streets in disguise to get firsthand information and to check the outcome of his laws……..now should he be criticized for his behavior towards his family members for kingcraft or should he be praised for his social reforms and his behavior towards common man…..?????

Aurangzeb a Mughal emperor was involved in killing his brothers and putting Shah Jahan (his father) under house arrest, but once again all this was for kingcraft……it has nothing to do about his behavior towards the layfolk.

Bayazid Yildirim and Tamerlane’s personal rivalry is another example.

Yet alone spreading of Islam is not the biggest example around from its center….????......If Muslim rulers were that brutal and incapable and only involved in beheading of each other than how they be able to stretch the boundaries of Muslim kingdom that far from its center……by force only thing one can do is to make other people do whatever he wants, but one cannot force anyone to think what he wants……these warlords or rulers were amongst the same who made spreading of Islam possible not by force, but by their behavior and their policies and we should be thankful to all of them that today we are Muslims and second majority of this universe.

What is the point he is trying to make by putting Muslim rulers under blame….????

Neither Muslim destroyed any civilization nor cities nor involved in any genocide (majority of Muslim rulers)…..

When I heard first time the word “Chor” for A. Q. Khan in one of his program I never again listen this guy and now after these videos I am done with this stupid self proclaimed analyst.