Has PAF Created It's Own 'Spice' Bomb

[airomerix]

Guys, as many people have already posted, these are just US supplied weapons for the F-16/C/Ds ... nothing extraordinary. In fact, US also supplied Paveway III/GBU-24s to India during Kargil to use from their Mirage 2000s.

All air forces and militaries use colors an bands to indicate different types of rounds and warheads. The pictures posted in this thread from 2013 show an example of that. As PAF uses US weapons for its F-16s, it follows the same color codes/classifications as the USAF.

Blue Color:
Both the Paveway II (GBU-12 with Mk82 500lb) and the Paveway III (GBU-24 with BLU-109 2000lb) bombs pictured here are inert training rounds. They are used to train pilots flying certain profiles as bombs limit aircraft flight characteristics. These bombs are usually filled with concrete to give them the same weight as a live bomb.

While they have no explosives, they can and have been dropped by aircraft in combat where the need to limit collateral damage is necessary.

P.S. Paveway II series also includes GBU-16 and GBU-10 with Mk83/1000lbs and Mk84/2000 pound bombs.

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All training rounds including AAM
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Training round of Maverick, TGM-65D with an IIR type seeker head. (Laser and TV/CCD guided variants have clear nose sections)
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Green Color:
These are live weapons with either high explosive or anti-personnel warheads.

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Red Color:
These usually indicate an incendiary round. The blue band however indicates its an inert bomb as well.
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Thanks!

Conclusively, these are just Paveway III inert bombs as recognized earlier.

 

[ARMalik]

Pakistan Army and Air Force has dedicated departments that create and maintains very high resolution GIS data of all of India. They have been doing this for atleast two decades if not more.Such data includes so called fly paths which can be fed into Missiles and Stand off weapons. It’s like library of multiple off the shelf fly paths to pre identified targets. A different fly path can selected from the choices available depending on the weather, defenses etc. if a new target is identified the existing base data can be used to create fly paths as desired on very short notice. So please stop thinking of Pakistani as a bunch uneducated buffoons.

And that pretty much sums it up - people with little knowledge or experience pretending as if they know better than the expert military people who do this each and every hour, and each and every day, and with enormous resources to back them up.

 

[Path-Finder]

SPICE is a guidance kit for a dumb bomb.

A fact that gets overlooked for some reason! Most Pakistani people call it a missile when it is a SOW

 

[ARMalik]

SPICE is a guidance kit for a dumb bomb.
PAF uses JDAM guidance kit.

Both use GPS guidance

Mate, you are spoiling the fun here for those here who believe that Spice is a mythical weapon with horns.

 

[Talon]

The weapon with blue casing certainly looks different from the standard LGBs in PAF inventory.

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It's BLU 109 Bunker Buster.
You should have focused on the Jammer Pod more than the bomb.

Are our F16s allowed to integerate any weapon we like?

Also was there any bomb (Spice) which remained unexploded in 26th Feb? If no then How can exploded bombs be reverse engineered? Also do u guys think any technical reason why this weapon is not integerated on Mirage or Thunder?
@airomerix @Hodor @Knuckles @HRK @Dazzler

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Do H2/H4s and Chineese SOWs (if we have) use Beidou or GPS?

 

[War Thunder]

Spice uses satellite images to memorise the target and then guides itself to that target once dropped. Spice has been used by Israel several times in Syria & Iraq and hence Pakistan may already have got some bombs long time back. But to use it, Pakistan needs extensive network of accurate satellite cameras.

Even India does not make Spice bombs as India does not find meaning in making Spice as it is difficult to be used during major wars. Spice is only good for limited warfare due to its accuracy. But during major war, it is hard to take satellite images of every target and hence Spice becomes ineffiicient.

Ever heard drones?
And what makes you think accurate satellite imagery is not available to Pakistan?

 

[airomerix]

It's BLU 109 Bunker Buster.
You should have focused on the Jammer Pod more than the bomb.

It's a GBU 24 Paveway III.

BLU's are different.

The jammer pod is a recently acquired exelis ALQ-211 self protection system.

 

[Talon]

It's a GBU 24 Paveway III.

BLU's are different.

The jammer pod is a recently acquired exelis ALQ-211 self protection system.

Nope its BLU,I confirmed from one of its operators.

Yes I know which pod it is.I was just saying it's of more interest than the bomb.

Edit: Pod acquired recently? i thought this picture is from when we acquired the Blk 52s.

 

[airomerix]

Nope its BLU,I confirmed from one of its operators.

Yes I know which pod it is.I was just saying it's of more interest than the bomb.

Edit: Pod acquired recently? i thought this picture is from when we acquired the Blk 52s.

If i'm not wrong, PAF received clearance to install AIDEWS in 2014.

EDIT: https://www.airforce-technology.com...tallation-on-pakistani-f-16-fighters-4391269/

Also, we both are right.

BLU-109 is just another warhead configuration of GBU-24 Paveway

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/paveway-3.html

It's settled.

 

[Talon]

If i'm not wrong, PAF received clearance to install AIDEWS in 2014.

EDIT: https://www.airforce-technology.com...tallation-on-pakistani-f-16-fighters-4391269/

Also, we both are right.

BLU-109 is just another warhead configuration of GBU-24 Paveway

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/paveway-3.html

It's settled.

I wonder if these pods can be fitted/allowed on MLUs..

 

[araz]

I wonder if these pods can be fitted/allowed on MLUs..

I think the info provided stated that it is cleared for use on MLUed bl.15s. So in what perspective are you asking? Just curious.
Regards
A

 

[Kompromat]

Not really, that's EPWII.

 

[Talon]

I think the info provided stated that it is cleared for use on MLUed bl.15s. So in what perspective are you asking? Just curious.
Regards
A

Excuse my ignorance,I didn't really open the links

 

[Windjammer]

It's BLU 109 Bunker Buster.
You should have focused on the Jammer Pod more than the bomb.

Thank you sir, wish I knew more about these specialized weapons in PAF inventory and otherwise.
As can be seen that after seven pages, members have given at least seven versions to the subject from being inert to bunker-buster and even a version of JDAMS....which raises another question, as JDAMS are very much part of PAF inventory, again it's an American satellite-guided weapon....so what satellite will PAF use to guide the bomb to its target or does it also incorporates INS.