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Half of Taliban groups ready for talks: PTI Imran Khan

our main aim should be to kill fazalulla, take him out and push for a leader who will end this
no i think i will not be wise for many reasons......
1: he has ben defeated by army and that,s why his morale will be down or atleast he will be feared of army when fighting again...
2: army knows his tactics and has defeated him already so it will be a moral push up and it will be easy to eliminate him.
3: taliban leadership is not that much united under fazlu as it was under hakeem or biatullah.... so another defeat will create a great crisis inside ttp..
4: first army should eliminate 2nd level leadership and all the able candidate for next amir....when army will eliminate 2nd level leadership it will creat a leadership crisis in ttp as new millitants will not be able to have a strong grip on ttp groups hence starting an inside war in ttp... then it will be wise to eliminate ttp leadr fazlu.........and new completly untrained leadership from 3rd level will not be able to control ttp and will agree for dailogue......this will create a even a bigger crisis in ttp because there are alway hard liners in ttp who will not agree to dialogue.....
5: in this case if they kill their own leader then most of the groups with ttp will leave
6: in case they agree, there will always a moral problem for ttp because of again and again defeats by PA and because of each of their leaders was on tour to 70 HORAIN... :pakistan:

kill those bastards...:guns:ttp
 
no i think i will not be wise for many reasons......
1: he has ben defeated by army and that,s why his morale will be down or atleast he will be feared of army when fighting again...
2: army knows his tactics and has defeated him already so it will be a moral push up and it will be easy to eliminate him.
3: taliban leadership is not that much united under fazlu as it was under hakeem or biatullah.... so another defeat will create a great crisis inside ttp..
4: first army should eliminate 2nd level leadership and all the able candidate for next amir....when army will eliminate 2nd level leadership it will creat a leadership crisis in ttp as new millitants will not be able to have a strong grip on ttp groups hence starting an inside war in ttp... then it will be wise to eliminate ttp leadr fazlu.........and new completly untrained leadership from 3rd level will not be able to control ttp and will agree for dailogue......this will create a even a bigger crisis in ttp because there are alway hard liners in ttp who will not agree to dialogue.....
5: in this case if they kill their own leader then most of the groups with ttp will leave
6: in case they agree, there will always a moral problem for ttp because of again and again defeats by PA and because of each of their leaders was on tour to 70 HORAIN... :pakistan:


kill those bastards...:guns:ttp

lol, looks like all TTP leaders are running again towards afghanistan specially this 'fazlu'
but this time army already have posts on Afghanistan border , so gates closed as well ...
that is why they attacked army post as IK leaking all information to them
 
If the Govt has decided to operate against Taliban , then it shouldn't look for " excuses " and come out in the open regarding it . The military operations are no solution for if they were , they would have worked 8 years before , the same " talks are only way forward " .

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Military operation has been going on for last 8 years.

Its only that we have been longing for public support from Politicians.

Unfortunately even today politicians are unwilling to publicly support it.
 
Imran Khan and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif want to hold talks with the Taliban. They may do so. And while they are at it, they should ask the Taliban why they assassinated my neighbour, Syed Alim Moosavi, steps from my ancestral home in Peshawar.
Molana Alim was assassinated on January 20 in Dhakki Munawwar Shah near Qissa Khawani Bazaar. He was heading to the mosque to lead prayers. Two gun men on a motorcycle shot and killed him. Like thousands of others who have died in targeted killings, Molana Alim’s murderers are likely to remain unknown and escape justice. While he was targeted for being a Shia, Sunnis have not fared any better at the hands of the Taliban.

The term ‘Shia Genocide’ has been added to the lexicon to describe the mass murder of the minority Shias in Pakistan. But it is not only Shias who are suffering at the hands of the murderous and regressive ideology of the Taliban. Almost seven years to the day, the Taliban assassinated the fearless head of the Peshawar Police, Malik Muhammad Saad, in a suicide bomb attack in the same neighbourhood. For every Shia murdered in sectarian attacks, several Sunnis have also been killed in terrorist attacks by the same Taliban. What could Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif hope to achieve in a dialogue with those who are committing war crimes against the people of Pakistan?

Molana Alim was a second generation religious scholar. His father, Molana Safdar Hussain, was one of the pioneers of sectarian harmony in Peshawar. The residents of the walled city of Peshawar distinctly remember Molana Safdar Hussain walking hand-in-hand with Ahl-e-Sunnat scholars in Milad-un-Nabi processions. Molana Alim, like his father, was friends with religious scholars of all stripes.

Molana Alim taught us to believe in non-violence, a fast fading tradition of the Frontier that finds its roots in the teachings of Bacha Khan. I have seen Molana Alim calm and respectful of others, even in times of great adversity. When the Taliban gangs attacked Shias in the summer of 1992, Molana Alim preached patience and respect to the restless youth in Peshawar who saw their friends murdered and their graveyards desecrated. And unlike other religious scholars, he lived without any security detail and walked alone and unguarded in the old city.

While others knew him as Molana, he was more of a friend to us. He never married and lived alone across the street from my maternal ancestral home. His true companion were his books, which he was always generous to share. He lived in self-sustained poverty. He would cook his own meals and wash his own clothes. My cousins in Peshawar had a much longer association with him. He would greet us with a smile and would ensure that we drink his patented Qehwa (green tea) that he’d prepare himself. He resented the fact that my Math and Physics were stronger than my Persian and Arabic. He wanted us to read the classic texts in their original Arabic or Persian. He’d help us whenever we’d get stuck in seventh century Arabic or 13th century Persian.

Molana Alim’s greatest strength was his willingness to embrace those who did not share his views or philosophy. He was not offended by the fact that I did not support Iran’s transformation into a theocratic state and favoured a secular outlook for Muslim societies, where religion and faith would be private matters. He had faith in his neighbours as he would sit outside his home on a chair and greet passers-by. His death is not a loss only to Shias. His death is a loss to the City of Peshawar that no longer resembles its diverse, multi-lingual and multi-faith past where once all were welcome.

Unlike Molana Alim, the Taliban follow the takfiri ideology where those who disagree with them by default earn a death sentence. No one is immune; neither the teenaged Malala Yousafzai, who by the grace of God survived the assassination attempt, nor the sons of soil like Malik Saad and Sifwat Ghayur, who laid their lives in the line of duty.

While Shias, Christians, and other minorities in Pakistan make easy targets for the Taliban, most Sunnis are killed in indiscriminate violence. Shias are being targeted all across Pakistan, especially in Balochistan where Shia Hazaras continue to suffer despite tall claims by the State to act against the perpetrators. At the same time, the Taliban are bombing unarmed Sunni civilians in the Royal Artillery Bazaar in Rawalpindi and murdering polio vaccinators and those who protect them. It would be wrong to assume that the Taliban are attacking a particular sect. Their target is in fact the State and society in Pakistan.

Despite such overwhelming evidence of a revolt against the federation of Pakistan and its constituting units, and commission of war crimes against civilians, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan still insist on sitting across the table from those who murdered the likes of Sifwat Ghayyur, Malik Saad, and Lt. General Mushtaq Ahmad Baig, Pakistan Army’s surgeon general and a hafiz-e-Quran. Mr. Sharif and Mr. Khan should advise the nation of the agenda and goals for their desired parleys with mass murderers.

The Human Rights Watch in its latest report declared that militants are operating with “virtual impunity” in Pakistan, where the State is either unwilling or unable to stop terrorist attacks. Offering dialogue to mass murderers and denying security to the citizens hardly builds confidence in democracy. If the status quo continues, Pakistan is likely to descent even further into chaos where even the rich and powerful would not escape terrorism. Mr. Khan and Mr. Sharif should take note.


A dialogue with mass murderers - DAWN.COM

When do we the shia expect PTI sit downs and blockade against terrorist attacks or PTI only protest attacks on Terrorist?
 
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They will keep going against the state until our state remains USA slaves and they will keep getting support

@Alpha1 it was our forces who under Musharraf started the mass murder of Muslims in Tribal areas it was our forces who betrayed Afghans in first place and Muslims



So were slaves of the USA, fair enough,

But how is bombing mosques and killing policemen, taking us out of this slavery


Infact its making us weaker against the scum indians and yanks


Thats the problem, nothing the TTP does makes sense, as a conservative muslim I want the implementation of islam in Pakistan and I hate the TTP as much as I hate the liberals and secular types.

But we must be sensible, the TTP is not implementing islam, its screwing over muslims and Pakistan and making us weaker and diverting our resources when we have more lethal mortal enemies in the likes of the hindus and americans



E.G- when they hit our AWAC's, those things would have been used against e.g India,,, never the TTP so why the hell hit them..

Lets implement islam in Pakistan, but lets take these scum traitor TTP out of the game
 
a mentality retarted called one of the most loved and famous person foolish .. that is funny
doesnt matters cause foolish allways thinks others foolish, so been the follower of foolish playboy taliban khan, its expected from his foolish followers?
what next, mullha imran?lolzzz
he is only famous live joke these days?

good suggestion. but meanwhile they are attacking on us anyway, how we avoid this part?

Military op not a good option?

here is what saleem safi and others have to say about the operation..

as a pro peace advocate, I believe ceasefire can be a solution, and no bad blood can be used as an excuse by anti-peace forces to enforce their agenda, but it doesnot mean we should not take hold of South and North Waziristan.. we need military presence there permanently.
saleem safi would like to negociate with talibans?
or TTp will listen to this pice of paid shit?lolzzz
need to grow up, while pakistanis been bombed every morning, no stupid negociations are workable?
end of the story?
 
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So were slaves of the USA, fair enough,

But how is bombing mosques and killing policemen, taking us out of this slavery


Infact its making us weaker against the scum indians and yanks


Thats the problem, nothing the TTP does makes sense, as a conservative muslim I want the implementation of islam in Pakistan and I hate the TTP as much as I hate the liberals and secular types.

But we must be sensible, the TTP is not implementing islam, its screwing over muslims and Pakistan and making us weaker and diverting our resources when we have more lethal mortal enemies in the likes of the hindus and americans



E.G- when they hit our AWAC's, those things would have been used against e.g India,,, never the TTP so why the hell hit them..

Lets implement islam in Pakistan, but lets take these scum traitor TTP out of the game
Yes bombing
So were slaves of the USA, fair enough,

But how is bombing mosques and killing policemen, taking us out of this slavery


Infact its making us weaker against the scum indians and yanks


Thats the problem, nothing the TTP does makes sense, as a conservative muslim I want the implementation of islam in Pakistan and I hate the TTP as much as I hate the liberals and secular types.

But we must be sensible, the TTP is not implementing islam, its screwing over muslims and Pakistan and making us weaker and diverting our resources when we have more lethal mortal enemies in the likes of the hindus and americans



E.G- when they hit our AWAC's, those things would have been used against e.g India,,, never the TTP so why the hell hit them..

Lets implement islam in Pakistan, but lets take these scum traitor TTP out of the game
yes bombing mosque is not right but Musharraf and forces became USA slaves and killed and betrayed Muslims TTP was formed to take revenge so you need to end USA alliance first
 
Message for all PTI people out there,
leave all sort of arguments back and support Pakistan and its army ...
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not trolling but seriously does pakistan want to cede the TTP ruled areas into a separate country ? Why the indecisiveness ... ?

Just kill those scums !
 
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