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Half a trillion dollars wiped from China markets in a week as clampdowns shatter confidence

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For most Chinese, stock markets are just some rich people's race courses. It is the housing market where the real impact can be made.
 
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Aug 20 (Reuters) - China's tech stocks slumped to new lows on Friday and Hong Kong's benchmark index hit an almost 10-month trough, as an unrelenting series of Chinese regulatory crackdowns crushed investors' confidence.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china...er-sentiment-herd-mentality-kicks-2021-08-20/


Great to see Xi crush his own tech industry :lol:

Xi's is gonna regulate china's biggest companies. this is a good thing for them unlike the US where the rich and the large companies tell the government what to do to the detriment of the middle and lower classes.
 
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This is really chinese incompetency. The reforms in themselves are not bad. Data security is same as in europe. Protection of drivers is done in lot of countries. it is really messaging. All china had to do is assure investors that these companies will be allowed to make profit as long as they stick to rules.

Despite knowing every chinese reform annoucnement has hammered the chinese stocks the chinese govt couldnt give any such assurance. understandably the market got spooked.

It shows there is no real harmoniouis society in china atleast when it comes to chinese society and chinese corporates.
 
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The Chinese government has already expressed its own point of view:一鲸落,万物生。 When a whale falls, all things grows up.

This means that large companies are suppressed in China and new types of small companies will grow.
 
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The Chinese government has already expressed its own point of view:一鲸落,万物生。 When a whale falls, all things grows up.

Whale carcass usually washes ashore on sandy beaches where nothing grows.. 🤔
 
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This is really chinese incompetency. The reforms in themselves are not bad. Data security is same as in europe. Protection of drivers is done in lot of countries. it is really messaging. All china had to do is assure investors that these companies will be allowed to make profit as long as they stick to rules.

Despite knowing every chinese reform annoucnement has hammered the chinese stocks the chinese govt couldnt give any such assurance. understandably the market got spooked.

It shows there is no real harmoniouis society in china atleast when it comes to chinese society and chinese corporates.

Yeah, the regulations are good and healthy in the long term. It's not gonna materially affect their companies' earnings. Tencent and Alibaba's market value fell around 50%; it's not like their long-term profits are gonna fall 50% lol.

Their state media did try to calm down and reassure investors. They are even arguing that it's an opportunity to "buy the dip" lol. But I guess there is still a general lack of distrust and bias against China, which is a pity.

 
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Whale carcass usually washes ashore on sandy beaches where nothing grows.. 🤔
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Despite knowing every chinese reform annoucnement has hammered the chinese stocks the chinese govt couldnt give any such assurance. understandably the market got spooked.
Maybe there is a reason they are not making this point clear? Maybe they want more than you think they do from these big companies?
After all, Xi Jinping has a different ideology from your past leaders. He seem to be less inclined towards profit seeking private companies and more on urging these companies to be less focused on profitability and more on social responsibility or ''socialism with Chinese characteristics'' or whatever that even means. Reason he has made it clear that he wants a bigger share for state owned companies to be the dominant ones in china(even more than they are already), since they listen more to government policy/demands instead of profits. So it will be good to see how things will play out in future in this field. Since private Chinese companies have always been on the disadvantage compared to their dominant state owned counterparts since private companies received little to zero support compared to the huge favours/protection/support state owned conglomerate enjoy. So private Chinese companies have done very well to strive and grow despite all odds stacked against them actually. So for some of them to have grown so large to this extent is actually surprising. However, they have done so ONLY IN SECTORS THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO COMAPETE/TAKE PART IN. Since Chinese government forbids private companies from even getting involved in many sectors, where they maintain the monopoly of state owned companies.
So private companies in China have hustled their way out by shedding alot of sweat, especially in a quasi state dominated industry/system. Just look at how Ali pay rendered useless the other state owned financial companies who never achieved anything ground-breaking and where only seating on their ***. Ali pay changed everything when they came on and revolutionised Chinas financial payment system and made life far easier for most Chinese. If they were barred from even taking part in that sector then china's financial payment system will still be as backward/slow/inefficient and cumbersome the way it was when state owned companies dominated the market with their monopoly.

PRIVATE COMPANIES WILL ALMOST ALWAYS OUTPERFORM STATE OWNED ONES IF GIVEN A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, OR EVEN IF GIVEN JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO. So if anything the Chinese government should be encouraging it's private sector much more, not less.
 
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Maybe there is a reason they are not making this point clear? Maybe they want more than you think they do from these big companies?
After all, Xi Jinping has a different ideology from your past leaders. He seem to be less inclined towards profit seeking private companies and more on urging these companies to be less focused on profitability and more on social responsibility or ''socialism with Chinese characteristics'' or whatever that even means. Reason he has made it clear that he wants a bigger share for state owned companies to be the dominant ones in china(even more than they are already), since they listen more to government policy/demands instead of profits. So it will be good to see how things will play out in future in this field. Since private Chinese companies have always been on the disadvantage compared to their dominant state owned counterparts since private companies received little to zero support compared to the huge favours/protection/support state owned conglomerate enjoy. So private Chinese companies have done very well to strive and grow despite all odds stacked against them actually. So for some of them to have grown so large to this extent is actually surprising. However, they have done so ONLY IN SECTORS THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO COMAPETE/TAKE PART IN. Since Chinese government forbids private companies from even getting involved in many sectors, where they maintain the monopoly of state owned companies.
So private companies in China have hustled their way out by shedding alot of sweat, especially in a quasi state dominated industry/system. Just look at how Ali pay rendered useless the other state owned financial companies who never achieved anything ground-breaking and where only seating on their ***. Ali pay changed everything when they came on and revolutionised Chinas financial payment system and made life far easier for most Chinese. If they were barred from even taking part in that sector then china's financial payment system will still be as backward/slow/inefficient and cumbersome the way it was when state owned companies dominated the market with their monopoly.

PRIVATE COMPANIES WILL ALMOST ALWAYS OUTPERFORM STATE OWNED ONES IF GIVEN A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, OR EVEN IF GIVEN JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO. So if anything the Chinese government should be encouraging it's private sector much more, not less.


China doesn’t have a chance in hell of successfully competing with American companies if Xi continues to wreck China’s private industry.
 
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For most Chinese, stock markets are just some rich people's race courses. It is the housing market where the real impact can be made.
Wait until evergrande, or vanke goes pop
 
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