kurup
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 10, 2012
- Messages
- 10,563
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
AoA - Angle of Attack ....what is ACM ??
If they are keeping it a secret , then great.
HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions
- Thread starter EagleEyes
- Start date
- Status
AoA - Angle of Attack ....what is ACM ??
If they are keeping it a secret , then great.
INDIAISM
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2009
- Messages
- 1,618
- Reaction score
- -3
I think he means ECM...Electronic counter measures...
INDIAISM
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2009
- Messages
- 1,618
- Reaction score
- -3
Navy eager for Tejas ordering eight naval fighters
Ajai Shukla / Bangalore Dec 12, 2012, 00:52 IST
So far - much to its disappointment - only one
naval light combat aircraft has been built by the Aeronautical Development Agency
Earlier this year, the then naval chief, Admiral Nirmal Verma , regretted the delay in building the naval version of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). Last week, the current naval chief, Admiral D K Joshi , declared the navy wanted theTejas more urgently than any fighter aircraft from abroad.
- DRDO looks beyond HAL for Tejas production Following words with action, the navy will shortly issue a request for proposals to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to build eight naval Tejas fighters, a mix of twin-seat trainers and single-seat fighters, worth some Rs 1,000 crore. Both the ministry of defence and Cabinet. Committee on Security have cleared the purchase. HAL will respond with a quotation, a price will be negotiated, and the building of the aircraft would commence next year.
So far — much to the navy’s disappointment — only one naval LCA has been built by the Aeronautical Development Agency, or ADA, which oversees the Rs 3,650-crore naval LCA programme and the Rs 10,397-crore programme to develop a fighter for the Indian Air Force. A second naval Tejas is currently under construction. ADA has briefed Business Standard a total of five naval Tejas prototypes will be built in the coming days, which ADA will use in the demanding flight test programme for certifying for operations off the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.
The eight fighters now being ordered by the navy — which HAL will build in what is called limited series production, or LSP — will be used to train naval pilots who would eventually fly the Tejas from the aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant , which Cochin Shipyard would build by 2015, and from a second indigenous aircraft carrier that will follow the Vikrant.
Until these vessels are ready for flight deck operations, naval pilots will train at a new Shore-Based Test Facility ( SBTF ) in Goa, which replicates the dimensions of an aircraft carrier deck, including the arrestor wires that bring the aircraft to a halt in just 90 metres. The SBTF also has the optical landing system that aircraft carriers have, which allows a pilot to “aim” his fighter at the arrestor wire on the carrier deck. Only after extensive testing at the SBTF will the Naval LCA attempt to land and take off from an actual aircraft carrier.
ADA confirms the Goa facility is close to completion. “We want the SBTF to be a national facility that would be available for training (naval pilots) on a wide range of aircraft. So it is built to be used by the naval LCA as well as by the MiG-29K,” says Commodore CD Balaji, who directs the Naval LCA project at ADA.
The navy has bought 45 naval MiG-29K fighters, which will operate from the INS Vikramaditya (formerly the Admiral Gorshkov), which Russia will deliver only next year, after unexpected delays during trials recently. The MiG-29K will also fly from the indigenous INS Vikrant, along with the naval Tejas.
Naval aviators can train on the Tejas Mark I, which is powered by the General Electric F-404INengine. But only Tejas Mark II fighters, powered by the more powerful F-414 engine, can take off from aircraft carriers. The F-414’s additional power is essential for getting the fighters airborne in a runway length of just 200 metres, which is all that an aircraft carrier offers. During a visit to ADA last week, Business Standard was briefed on the naval LCA. In 2003, when development of the naval variant began, ADA believed that the air force version could simply be converted into a naval fighter by strengthening the landing gear, and engineeringan arrestor hooks and additional control surfaces. (A naval fighter must undergo far greater impacts while landing on an aircraft carrier deck, in what is often described as a “controlled crash.”
“In the paper design it looked feasible, similar towhat Eurofighter proposed for a navalised Typhoon; or what Gripen proposed for the Sea Gripen. But when we started the detailed design and the actual build… we realised the benefits of what Dassault had done with the Rafale. They designed and built the naval variant first, the Rafale Marine. The air force Rafale is just a subset of Rafale Marine. That is the easiest path,” says Balaji ruefully.
Instead ADA, in what has been a valuable learning experience, has arduously converted the air force Tejas into a naval version.
That is the same path as RAC MiG took in building the MiG-29K naval fighter from the air force version of the MiG-29.
Now the naval Tejas must demonstrate that it can land and take off from an aircraft carrier. It has already proved this in extensive computer simulation done by a team of scientists from the National Aerospace Laboratory. Next, the fighter will perform take offs and landings in realistic distances at the SBTF. ADA says it will demonstrate a take off by mid-2013 and a landing by end-2013. Only after that will the hazardous operation be performed on an aircraft carrier at sea..
Ajai Shukla / Bangalore Dec 12, 2012, 00:52 IST
So far - much to its disappointment - only one
naval light combat aircraft has been built by the Aeronautical Development Agency
Earlier this year, the then naval chief, Admiral Nirmal Verma , regretted the delay in building the naval version of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). Last week, the current naval chief, Admiral D K Joshi , declared the navy wanted theTejas more urgently than any fighter aircraft from abroad.
- DRDO looks beyond HAL for Tejas production Following words with action, the navy will shortly issue a request for proposals to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to build eight naval Tejas fighters, a mix of twin-seat trainers and single-seat fighters, worth some Rs 1,000 crore. Both the ministry of defence and Cabinet. Committee on Security have cleared the purchase. HAL will respond with a quotation, a price will be negotiated, and the building of the aircraft would commence next year.
So far — much to the navy’s disappointment — only one naval LCA has been built by the Aeronautical Development Agency, or ADA, which oversees the Rs 3,650-crore naval LCA programme and the Rs 10,397-crore programme to develop a fighter for the Indian Air Force. A second naval Tejas is currently under construction. ADA has briefed Business Standard a total of five naval Tejas prototypes will be built in the coming days, which ADA will use in the demanding flight test programme for certifying for operations off the flight deck of an aircraft carrier.
The eight fighters now being ordered by the navy — which HAL will build in what is called limited series production, or LSP — will be used to train naval pilots who would eventually fly the Tejas from the aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant , which Cochin Shipyard would build by 2015, and from a second indigenous aircraft carrier that will follow the Vikrant.
Until these vessels are ready for flight deck operations, naval pilots will train at a new Shore-Based Test Facility ( SBTF ) in Goa, which replicates the dimensions of an aircraft carrier deck, including the arrestor wires that bring the aircraft to a halt in just 90 metres. The SBTF also has the optical landing system that aircraft carriers have, which allows a pilot to “aim” his fighter at the arrestor wire on the carrier deck. Only after extensive testing at the SBTF will the Naval LCA attempt to land and take off from an actual aircraft carrier.
ADA confirms the Goa facility is close to completion. “We want the SBTF to be a national facility that would be available for training (naval pilots) on a wide range of aircraft. So it is built to be used by the naval LCA as well as by the MiG-29K,” says Commodore CD Balaji, who directs the Naval LCA project at ADA.
The navy has bought 45 naval MiG-29K fighters, which will operate from the INS Vikramaditya (formerly the Admiral Gorshkov), which Russia will deliver only next year, after unexpected delays during trials recently. The MiG-29K will also fly from the indigenous INS Vikrant, along with the naval Tejas.
Naval aviators can train on the Tejas Mark I, which is powered by the General Electric F-404INengine. But only Tejas Mark II fighters, powered by the more powerful F-414 engine, can take off from aircraft carriers. The F-414’s additional power is essential for getting the fighters airborne in a runway length of just 200 metres, which is all that an aircraft carrier offers. During a visit to ADA last week, Business Standard was briefed on the naval LCA. In 2003, when development of the naval variant began, ADA believed that the air force version could simply be converted into a naval fighter by strengthening the landing gear, and engineeringan arrestor hooks and additional control surfaces. (A naval fighter must undergo far greater impacts while landing on an aircraft carrier deck, in what is often described as a “controlled crash.”
“In the paper design it looked feasible, similar towhat Eurofighter proposed for a navalised Typhoon; or what Gripen proposed for the Sea Gripen. But when we started the detailed design and the actual build… we realised the benefits of what Dassault had done with the Rafale. They designed and built the naval variant first, the Rafale Marine. The air force Rafale is just a subset of Rafale Marine. That is the easiest path,” says Balaji ruefully.
Instead ADA, in what has been a valuable learning experience, has arduously converted the air force Tejas into a naval version.
That is the same path as RAC MiG took in building the MiG-29K naval fighter from the air force version of the MiG-29.
Now the naval Tejas must demonstrate that it can land and take off from an aircraft carrier. It has already proved this in extensive computer simulation done by a team of scientists from the National Aerospace Laboratory. Next, the fighter will perform take offs and landings in realistic distances at the SBTF. ADA says it will demonstrate a take off by mid-2013 and a landing by end-2013. Only after that will the hazardous operation be performed on an aircraft carrier at sea..
..
sudhir007
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2009
- Messages
- 4,728
- Reaction score
- 1
Flight test update
From
LCA-Tejas has completed 1963 Test Flights Successfully. (21-Dec-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-8,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1964 Test Flights Successfully. (02-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-9,NP1-4)
From
LCA-Tejas has completed 1963 Test Flights Successfully. (21-Dec-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-8,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1964 Test Flights Successfully. (02-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-9,NP1-4)
sudhir007
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2009
- Messages
- 4,728
- Reaction score
- 1
LCA-Tejas has completed 1964 Test Flights Successfully. (02-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-9,NP1-4)
LCA-Tejas has completed 1967 Test Flights Successfully. (05-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-85,LSP4-56,LSP5-114,LSP7-10,NP1-4)
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-84,LSP4-56,LSP5-113,LSP7-9,NP1-4)
LCA-Tejas has completed 1967 Test Flights Successfully. (05-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-85,LSP4-56,LSP5-114,LSP7-10,NP1-4)
rockstarIN
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 17, 2010
- Messages
- 6,168
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
CA-Tejas has completed 1971 Test Flights Successfully. (08-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-86,LSP4-56,LSP5-115,LSP7-12,NP1-4)
From
LCA-Tejas has completed 1967 Test Flights Successfully. (05-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-85,LSP4-56,LSP5-114,LSP7-10,NP1-4)
There is hardly any discussion on defense topics here, so better have some updation
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-86,LSP4-56,LSP5-115,LSP7-12,NP1-4)
From
LCA-Tejas has completed 1967 Test Flights Successfully. (05-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-85,LSP4-56,LSP5-114,LSP7-10,NP1-4)
There is hardly any discussion on defense topics here, so better have some updation
Abingdonboy
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 4, 2010
- Messages
- 29,597
- Reaction score
- 46
- Country
- Location
When will the NP-2 (Naval fighter vaersion) fly? It seems to be at least 1 year late as of now and there doesn't seem to be any news on the subject
rockstarIN
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 17, 2010
- Messages
- 6,168
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
Taxi run is on as I read somewhere.
Abingdonboy
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 4, 2010
- Messages
- 29,597
- Reaction score
- 46
- Country
- Location
Cool, I hope this is true!
Abingdonboy
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 4, 2010
- Messages
- 29,597
- Reaction score
- 46
- Country
- Location
Yes, this was what I was referring to.
Are you sure it was NP2 and not LSP-8. The last I heard was they are still redesigning the landing gear
rockstarIN
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 17, 2010
- Messages
- 6,168
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
Im not sure though. LSP-8 is already doing ground testing.
sudhir007
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2009
- Messages
- 4,728
- Reaction score
- 1
Flight test update
CA-Tejas has completed 1971 Test Flights Successfully. (08-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-86,LSP4-56,LSP5-115,LSP7-12,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1977 Test Flights Successfully. (12-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-88,LSP4-56,LSP5-117,LSP7-14,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1980 Test Flights Successfully. (15-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-89,LSP4-56,LSP5-118,LSP7-15,NP1-4)
CA-Tejas has completed 1971 Test Flights Successfully. (08-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-86,LSP4-56,LSP5-115,LSP7-12,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1977 Test Flights Successfully. (12-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-88,LSP4-56,LSP5-117,LSP7-14,NP1-4)
to
LCA-Tejas has completed 1980 Test Flights Successfully. (15-Jan-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-89,LSP4-56,LSP5-118,LSP7-15,NP1-4)
- Status
Similar threads
