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[leapx]

And what exactly are those contexts? Please enlighten us !! It would also be interesting to learn how you would be putting together different class of aircraft's for comparison.

If your Tejas fanboys still think its is a good idea to develope a carrier-based version, I have nothing to say. Go with it and good luck.

 

[AMCA]

If your Tejas fanboys still think its is a good idea to develope a carrier-based version, I have nothing to say. Go with it and good luck.

Its not because of the range that it is a bad idea but because it is under powered for effective carrier operation, which even Indian Navy has made it clear that the Tejas in its Present form is incapable to carry out the job.

 

[Han Patriot]

Its not because of the range that it is a bad idea but because it is under powered for effective carrier operation, which even Indian Navy has made it clear that the Tejas in its Present form is incapable to carry out the job.

Everybody knows LCA is the lightest, fastest, most powderful aircraft on earth since 2012 and some say since 1992. Please don't ever question it.

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

Everybody knows LCA is the lightest, fastest, most powderful aircraft on earth since 2012 and some say since 1992. Please don't ever question it.

I like your Punjabi English....

 

[sudhir007]

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[Ultima Thule]

Its not because of the range that it is a bad idea but because it is under powered for effective carrier operation, which even Indian Navy has made it clear that the Tejas in its Present form is incapable to carry out the job.

So its underpowered with current engine F-404IN as per IN, so what is the replacement in mind of HAL/DRDO F-414 just asking not trolling

 

[AyanRay]

So its underpowered with current engine F-404IN as per IN, so what is the replacement in mind of HAL/DRDO F-414 just asking not trolling

Even with F-414, TEJAS will be a underpowered carrier based aircraft. I don't think Tejas as a carrier based fighter jet is feasible.

 

[Ultima Thule]

This thought may be your personal thought With thurst of 22000 lbs IN still think that your Tejas still underpowered and a T/W ratio is 1.3, which is sufficient for your Tejas, range is still an issue for CV version of Tejas and remember Tejas is a light weight jet you can't install F-100/AL-31 class of engine into Tejas or you would

Even with F-414, TEJAS will be a underpowered carrier based aircraft. I don't think Tejas as a carrier based fighter jet is feasible.

With a T/W of 1.3 with F-414 your navy still think that it could be underpowered and remember that Tejas is light weight jet you can't install F-100/AL-31 class of an engine into Tejas it will overpowered your Tejas, may be this is your personal thoughts

 

[GURU DUTT]

This thought may be your personal thought With thurst of 22000 lbs IN still think that your Tejas still underpowered and a T/W ratio is 1.3, which is sufficient for your Tejas, range is still an issue for CV version of Tejas and remember Tejas is a light weight jet you can't install F-100/AL-31 class of engine into Tejas or you would


With a T/W of 1.3 with F-414 your navy still think that it could be underpowered and remember that Tejas is light weight jet you can't install F-100/AL-31 class of an engine into Tejas it will overpowered your Tejas, may be this is your personal thoughts

Tejas is fine for the Job its not for acrobatic team and in the age of all aspect 120 degrees HOBS & +/- 30G WVRs (python5) on LCA/Tejas MK1A there is no need for si high manouvering just a look & there is a LOCK ON on enemy as far as sight enebells over it DERBY & I DERBY ER BVR are fully capable guded by EL-2052 AESA radar ..... now as for navy they just want more funds and two full squads of rafale M for IAC undr construction rest keep speculating

Even with F-414, TEJAS will be a underpowered carrier based aircraft. I don't think Tejas as a carrier based fighter jet is feasible.

Tejas will never be a Carrier based fighter cause it does not have required LONG LEGS due to its compact size and internal fuel capacity and cant spare too many hard points for fuel pods

but what most people dont know Tejas has a good range for a costal defnce or a point defnce fighter with 3.5 or lesser weapons load thats 350-450 Km under 5Km to 6Km altitude which will increase in a higher altitude with a lighter air interception type weapons load (2WVRs & 4 BVRs & 1 fuel tank + jammer pod ) to almost 450-500 Km

 

[Ultima Thule]

Tejas is fine for the Job its not for acrobatic team and in the age of all aspect 120 degrees HOBS & +/- 30G WVRs (python5) on LCA/Tejas MK1A there is no need for si high manouvering just a look & there is a LOCK ON on enemy as far as sight enebells over it DERBY & I DERBY ER BVR are fully capable guded by EL-2052 AESA radar ..... now as for navy they just want more funds and two full squads of rafale M for IAC undr construction rest keep speculating


Tejas will never be a Carrier based fighter cause it does not have required LONG LEGS due to its compact size and internal fuel capacity and cant spare too many hard points for fuel pods

but what most people dont know Tejas has a good range for a costal defnce or a point defnce fighter with 3.5 or lesser weapons load thats 350-450 Km under 5Km to 6Km altitude which will increase in a higher altitude with a lighter air interception type weapons load (2WVRs & 4 BVRs & 1 fuel tank + jammer pod ) to almost 450-500 Km

Currently Tejas have no AESA (2052) but pulse Doppler 2032 you derbyp/r77 so we we have amraam/SD-10A, so what is your problem I'm talking seriously not trolling so you're predicting that Tejas will be only for airforce not for IN

 

[sathya]

Tejas is fine for the Job its not for acrobatic team and in the age of all aspect 120 degrees HOBS & +/- 30G WVRs (python5) on LCA/Tejas MK1A there is no need for si high manouvering just a look & there is a LOCK ON on enemy as far as sight enebells over it DERBY & I DERBY ER BVR are fully capable guded by EL-2052 AESA radar ..... now as for navy they just want more funds and two full squads of rafale M for IAC undr construction rest keep speculating


Tejas will never be a Carrier based fighter cause it does not have required LONG LEGS due to its compact size and internal fuel capacity and cant spare too many hard points for fuel pods

but what most people dont know Tejas has a good range for a costal defnce or a point defnce fighter with 3.5 or lesser weapons load thats 350-450 Km under 5Km to 6Km altitude which will increase in a higher altitude with a lighter air interception type weapons load (2WVRs & 4 BVRs & 1 fuel tank + jammer pod ) to almost 450-500 Km

MK1A is still far off , radar & engine not chosen yet ( thales vs Elta in radar & GE vs Kaveri -Safran )
MK2 for Navy might come up with GE414
derby had vibration issues so Asraam/ Mica may also be chosen
Gun firing is delinked from MK1 Foc , rumour is that gun pod location may be altered to add extra hard point.
MK1 maintenance - is hard job thats getting simplified.
i dont know Sukhoi manufacturing facility is getting converted for LCA, i am of the opinion it will do upgradation of Su 30 mki.. as off now 8 + 3 mk1 per year that is being made.
private players entry will speed up.., how much it is.. needs to be seen.

 

[AyanRay]

Currently Tejas have no AESA (2052) but pulse Doppler 2032 you derbyp/r77 so we we have amraam/SD-10A, so what is your problem I'm talking seriously not trolling so you're predicting that Tejas will be only for airforce not for IN

How many single engined carrier based fighter jet do you see around? Operational? Even the F-35 is having issues and it possesses the mother of all jet engines. A single engined small aircraft with limited range is simply not capable to operate from aircraft carriers. If a carrier comes too close to the enemy it losses its purpose.

 

[Ultima Thule]

How many single engined carrier based fighter jet do you see around? Operational? Even the F-35 is having issues and it possesses the mother of all jet engines. A single engined small aircraft with limited range is simply not capable to operate from aircraft carriers. If a carrier comes too close to the enemy it losses its purpose.

So you're predicting no Tejas for IN

 

[AyanRay]

So you're predicting no Tejas for IN

Why only Tejas, no single engined jet for Indian navy.

Edit: Maybe for costal defence, certainly not for carrier based operations.

 

[sathya]

Why only Tejas, no single engined jet for Indian navy.

Edit: Maybe for costal defence, certainly not for carrier based operations.

Still a stepping stone for next block of Tejas and also facilitate
N AMCA