HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[KapitaanAli]

Compare the specs, but stop comparing the production of these two fighters. PAF was desperate for fighters and thus went ahead with a barebone Blk1, which IAF would never do. With Blk2, PAF had an okay thing, comparable to Mk1, with some shortcomings in avionics. By then, IAF found it wise to have only AESA inductions, and make only a token order for Mk1. This was the right call, as the Bisons are capable enough to take the fight to the adversary and hold fort, until then. On the sidelines, more and more MKI were being built, more than what was being assembled at PAC.

Now, there's Mk1A and Blk3 with similar specs, both at about the same stages of development. This is the most noteworthy point. Blk3 prototype had first flight, and Mk1A prototype is nothing but a modified Mk1.

With Mk2, we'll go one weight class above. And with the naval versions, it's a whole another field.

Meanwhile, India now has the capability and confidence of a competent ecosystem, thanks to the LCA program. Pakistan is decades away from being anything close, but on the right path thanks to China.

Tejas/LCA program is far from being late.

 

[Surya 1]

Omni role combat aircraft revealed.

Now, India has mastered a wide spectrum of combat aircraft technologies. Engine technology need to be mastered now. Now certainly , India can design and make CA which can match Latest available right now.
People say that it took a long time but when it comes, people can see the difference between coppied and stolen aircrafts with one eveoleved out of intense R & D.

 

[Deino]

Omni role combat aircraft revealed.

Now, India has mastered a wide spectrum of combat aircraft technologies. Engine technology need to be mastered now. Now certainly , India can design and make CA which can match Latest available right now.
People say that it took a long time but when it comes, people can see the difference between coppied and stolen aircrafts with one eveoleved out of intense R & D.

Pardon, but taht's a joke ... at least the artwork - looks more like a fan-made Tejas Mk.2 (now MWF) with a slightly wider fuselage to at least make it look like, but in fact these can never be two F414. So the question is indeed ... how reliable, official is this?

You never fit two F414 into such a slim fuselage, just look at the current Tejas Mk. 2 aka MWF concept:

By the way, people see the difference between a successfully modernised aviation industry that has several indigenous projects flying and in operational service and another country, that in regular intervals presents more and more unrealistic paper-projects and is master of chest-bumping.

 

[KapitaanAli]

Pardon, but taht's a joke ... at least the artwork - looks more like a fan-made Tejas Mk.2 (now MWF) with a slightly wider fuselage to at least make it look like, but in fact these can never be two F414. So the question is indeed ... how reliable, official is this?

The only claim to fame is that it's tweeted by a HAL test pilot. It's certainly not an ADA project. Could be one of the things HAL is playing with, by modifying ADA Mk2.

 

[Deino]

The only claim to fame is that it's tweeted by a HAL test pilot. It's certainly not an ADA project. Could be one of the things HAL is playing with, by modifying ADA Mk2.

Thanks, but this proves my concern that it is more a fan-made artwork and nothing official.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Indians are good at producing diagrams of things they say they will do, but not very good on delivering them when the time comes....

Indians will talk you down, right over your grave, they are not as good on delivering anything, that is the India moto, fuill of hot air and bullshit (or should i say, cowshit ? )...

Draw all the diagrams you want, based on India's delivery rate, it is all vapourware !!!!!!

 

[Surya 1]

Indians are good at producing diagrams of things they say they will do, but not very good on delivering them when the time comes....

Indians will talk you down, right over your grave, they are not as good on delivering anything, that is the India moto, fuill of hot air and bullshit (or should i say, cowshit ? )...

Draw all the diagrams you want, based on India's delivery rate, it is all vapourware !!!!!!

your Bu** h**t can please you only.

 

[Ali_Baba]

your Bu** h**t can please you only.

Nah, all the b*llsh*t is inside the Indians .. that is the point! we have heard so much of it..

 

[KapitaanAli]

ORCA, as suspected (since it's the only non-AMCA twin engine project), is a TEDBF contender. It'd likely primarily be a naval design, then ported to air force if needed. Note that "omni role" is a term Dassault uses for Rafale, which entered Navy first.

The model above is a "coarse surface model, to analyse overall size". Details can be ignored.

 

[Han Patriot]

Pardon, but taht's a joke ... at least the artwork - looks more like a fan-made Tejas Mk.2 (now MWF) with a slightly wider fuselage to at least make it look like, but in fact these can never be two F414. So the question is indeed ... how reliable, official is this?

You never fit two F414 into such a slim fuselage, just look at the current Tejas Mk. 2 aka MWF concept:

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By the way, people see the difference between a successfully modernised aviation industry that has several indigenous projects flying and in operational service and another country, that in regular intervals presents more and more unrealistic paper-projects and is master of chest-bumping.

It's cultural, they will boast and promise ypu the sky, but when it comes to delivery.... ZERO. Pardon me, i am not saying China is awesome, still has maybe 20-30 years to catch up with the West in terms of living standards but when it comes to getting things done, i believe we are good.

Notice the addition of canards, yet nobody seems to say they are copying J-10?lol

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Notice the addition of canards, yet nobody seems to say they are copying J-10?lol

Indians copy? No! Never!

 

[KapitaanAli]

Firing R73, Iron Fist '16:

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Omni role combat aircraft revealed.

Now, India has mastered a wide spectrum of combat aircraft technologies. Engine technology need to be mastered now. Now certainly , India can design and make CA which can match Latest available right now.
People say that it took a long time but when it comes, people can see the difference between coppied and stolen aircrafts with one eveoleved out of intense R & D.

Pardon, but taht's a joke ... at least the artwork - looks more like a fan-made Tejas Mk.2 (now MWF) with a slightly wider fuselage to at least make it look like, but in fact these can never be two F414. So the question is indeed ... how reliable, official is this?

You never fit two F414 into such a slim fuselage, just look at the current Tejas Mk. 2 aka MWF concept:

View attachment 597357

By the way, people see the difference between a successfully modernised aviation industry that has several indigenous projects flying and in operational service and another country, that in regular intervals presents more and more unrealistic paper-projects and is master of chest-bumping.

Firing R73, Iron Fist '16:

View attachment 597654

Question for those who know the TEJAS more closely.

One of the major issue with the delta wing aircraft - MIRAGES an example - was the poor turn rate.

A jet as fast as Mirage - with Mach 2.2 achieved 40-years ago - had its problem in its turn rate.

What is the turn rate of Tejas?

 

[GumNaam]

Question for those who know the TEJAS more closely.

One of the major issue with the delta wing aircraft - MIRAGES an example - was the poor turn rate.

A jet as fast as Mirage - with Mach 2.2 achieved 40-years ago - had its problem in its turn rate.

What is the turn rate of Tejas?

teja's turn is as fast as truck that's carrying it!

 

[Dil Pakistan]

teja's turn is as fast as truck that's carrying it!

I took that forgranted