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[帅的一匹]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

 

[ROCKETRAJA]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

Nobody knows what you think, tell us Why?

 

[Edevelop]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

JF-17 Block 2 will roll out sometime this year. Not to mention, it will add new features such as IRST, IFR Probe, Upgraded Avionics (4.5 Generation), New Weapons Package, more Composite use, and god knows hopefully New Engine (RD-93MA or WS-13). As far as LCA is concerned, i don't know much.

 

[MilSpec]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

8/year is a very productive rate. Indians take their tea time seriously. They take a long time to get it done right. You don't want to see the LCA falling off the sky like the Mig 21, do you?

Yes we dont want any of our plane in first 40 would get crash.

 

[Anony]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

I don't think J-10b is any better than LCA mk1

 

[acid rain]

8/year is a very productive rate. Indians take their tea time seriously. They take a long time to get it done right. You don't want to see the LCA falling off the sky like the Mig 21, do you?

You should walk into HAL or NAL's production facilities - you will be amazed by the productivity - one guuy tightens one screw within a day - i.e. if its not a holiday and they do get a hell of a lot of holidays.

 

[Anony]

JF-17 Block 2 will roll out sometime this year. Not to mention, it will add new features such as IRST, IFR Probe, Upgraded Avionics (4.5 Generation), New Weapons Package, more Composite use, and god knows hopefully New Engine (RD-93MA or WS-13). As far as LCA is concerned, i don't know much.

Dear one, the feature you just mentioned for blk2 of JF-17 are already there in LCA mk1.

8/year is a very productive rate. Indians take their tea time seriously. They take a long time to get it done right. You don't want to see the LCA falling off the sky like the Mig 21, do you?

Surely, we don't want it to fall from sky but we also don't want to produce 1000 crap and then found that it still has whole lot of safety issues.

 

[Black Widow]

I don't think LCA MK2 is any better than JF17.

Off course FC1 is better than LCA...


Just tell me one thing, when FC1 was inducted in PAF had it capability to fly in dark (Night flight capability)? There is FC1 thread in PAF section, please read all posts to find the truth....

@mods: what these chinese are doing here? can't they be controlled to give constructive comment rather than inflammatory remarks???

 

[scarcry]

Listen to this

LCA current radar 150km

jf17 75km

lca IRST + 4.5 gen avionics (elta)

Jf17 pending for block 2

Lca full composite 2nd highest after eurofighter

jf17 j7pg format

Lca better dogfighter

Higher twr

more thrust

JF17

IN FOCUS: China awaits fighter export breakthrough

 

[ANPP]

Here is a normal comparison---

LCA is develop to counter the latest threats like new f16, j10, mig29 & other new fighter a/c.

JF17 is develop to counter the older ones of IAF like mig21, mig23.

So any one can tell which is better.

 

[scarcry]

Here is a normal comparison---

LCA is develop to counter the latest threats like new f16, j10, mig29 & other new fighter a/c.

JF17 is develop to counter the older ones of IAF like mig21, mig23.

So any one can tell which is better.

Dont insult mig 23 they made f15's sweat btw they are retired

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

Actually you are right. Ministry of defence said that if Pakistan(PAF) can go with 3rd gen crap(Jf-17), then why can't we(IAF) induct 4th gen LCA.

ignore them buddy, just ignore, they trying to ruin this thread.

 

[GURU DUTT]

well as usual Pakistanies and Chinese makin fun of LCA & HAL capabilities well they are most welcome too cause in there over zeleous attempt to do so they are telling us how to do it in a more better way and the think tank in IAF , HAL & MOD is taking a good preview of things to come Thanks My Dear Pakitanies & chinese Friends for bieng so help ful

now to talk about what and how LCA Better than The gods gift To Aviation Industrie of the super Talented chinese and The divine PAF's JF17

engine

LCA

Tejas will come with 99 GE F 414

General Electric F414 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Over Chinese Built & PAC Essembelled JF17..RD 33 (which are same used as in earlier MIG29's)

Klimov RD-33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radar

LCA

While originally planned to be fitted on production aircraft, delays in the development of MMR prompted the DRDO to co-operate with Israel Aerospace Industries to integrate a Hybrid version of the EL/M-2032 radar for use with the Tejas. The EL/M-2032 radar used in LSP-3 has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km in air-to-air mode, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km.Another track System is an infrared search and track system (IRST)
The development of an AESA radar for the Tejas is expected to begin pending the selection of a developmental partner. The contenders for the contract are the European Consortium EADS and the Israel's Elta. The initial contract will see the co-development of 10 prototypes.

EL/M-2032 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JF17 Radar

KLJ-7 Radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Armament

LCA

Air To Air

Python (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Astra (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R-77 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R-73 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Air to surface

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-59(ME & MK)

Anty Ship

Kh-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kh-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bombs:
[95]
KAB-1500L laser-guided bombs
GBU-16 Paveway II
FAB-250
ODAB-500PM fuel-air explosives
ZAB-250/350 incendiary bombs
BetAB-500Shp powered concrete-piercing bombs
FAB-500T dumb bombs
OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs
OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs
RBK-500 cluster bomb stake
&
LITENING targeting pod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JF17

Air-to-air missiles:

MAA-1 Piranha (Short-range)
AIM-9L/M (Short-range)
PL-5E (Short-range)
PL-9C (Short-range)
PL-12 / SD-10 (Beyond visual range)

Air-to-surface missiles:

MAR-1 (Anti-radiation missile)
C-802A (Anti-ship missiles)
C-803 (Anti-ship missiles)
Ra'ad ALCM (Nuclear capable Stealth Cruise missile)

Bombs:

Unguided bombs:
Mk-82 (general purpose bomb)
Mk-84 (general purpose bomb)
Matra Durandal (anti-runway bomb)
CBU-100/Mk-20 Rockeye (anti-armour cluster bomb)

Precision guided munitions (PGM):

GBU-10 (Laser-guided)
GBU-12 (Laser-guided)
LT-2 (Laser-guided)
H-2 (electro-optically guided)
H-4 (electro-optically guided)
LS-6[disambiguation needed] (satellite-guided glide bombs)
Satellite-guided bombs

Of which The American arsenal is highli unlikeli as US has decliened(becuase of reverse ingenearing) Chinese american source code so it wont be possible to integrate Western armament on JF17

well this is just the tip while IAF And HAl have already integrated most with Israeli Help as of now

Si whos better (the one with latest wepons integrated or the one which will have god knows what )

lolzzzz

 

[Edevelop]

well as usual Pakistanies and Chinese makin fun of LCA & HAL capabilities well they are most welcome too cause in there over zeleous attempt to do so they are telling us how to do it in a more better way and the think tank in IAF , HAL & MOD is taking a good preview of things to come Thanks My Dear Pakitanies & chinese Friends for bieng so help ful

now to talk about what and how LCA Better than The gods gift To Aviation Industrie of the super Talented chinese and The divine PAF's JF17

engine

LCA

Tejas will come with 99 GE F 414

General Electric F414 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Over Chinese Built & PAC Essembelled JF17..RD 33 (which are same used as in earlier MIG29's)

Klimov RD-33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radar

LCA

While originally planned to be fitted on production aircraft, delays in the development of MMR prompted the DRDO to co-operate with Israel Aerospace Industries to integrate a Hybrid version of the EL/M-2032 radar for use with the Tejas. The EL/M-2032 radar used in LSP-3 has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km in air-to-air mode, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km.Another track System is an infrared search and track system (IRST)
The development of an AESA radar for the Tejas is expected to begin pending the selection of a developmental partner. The contenders for the contract are the European Consortium EADS and the Israel's Elta. The initial contract will see the co-development of 10 prototypes.

EL/M-2032 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JF17 Radar

KLJ-7 Radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Armament

LCA

Air To Air

Python (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Astra (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R-77 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

R-73 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Air to surface

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-59(ME & MK)

Anty Ship

Kh-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kh-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bombs:
[95]
KAB-1500L laser-guided bombs
GBU-16 Paveway II
FAB-250
ODAB-500PM fuel-air explosives
ZAB-250/350 incendiary bombs
BetAB-500Shp powered concrete-piercing bombs
FAB-500T dumb bombs
OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs
OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs
RBK-500 cluster bomb stake
&
LITENING targeting pod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

JF17

Air-to-air missiles:

MAA-1 Piranha (Short-range)
AIM-9L/M (Short-range)
PL-5E (Short-range)
PL-9C (Short-range)
PL-12 / SD-10 (Beyond visual range)

Air-to-surface missiles:

MAR-1 (Anti-radiation missile)
C-802A (Anti-ship missiles)
C-803 (Anti-ship missiles)
Ra'ad ALCM (Nuclear capable Stealth Cruise missile)

Bombs:

Unguided bombs:
Mk-82 (general purpose bomb)
Mk-84 (general purpose bomb)
Matra Durandal (anti-runway bomb)
CBU-100/Mk-20 Rockeye (anti-armour cluster bomb)

Precision guided munitions (PGM):

GBU-10 (Laser-guided)
GBU-12 (Laser-guided)
LT-2 (Laser-guided)
H-2 (electro-optically guided)
H-4 (electro-optically guided)
LS-6[disambiguation needed] (satellite-guided glide bombs)
Satellite-guided bombs

Of which The American arsenal is highli unlikeli as US has decliened(becuase of reverse ingenearing) Chinese american source code so it wont be possible to integrate Western armament on JF17

well this is just the tip while IAF And HAl have already integrated most with Israeli Help as of now

Si whos better (the one with latest wepons integrated or the one which will have god knows what )

lolzzzz

You missed CM-400 (Carrier Killer). It has a speed of Mach 5+

Not to mention, JFT has DSI, a 5th generation technology feature. Does LCA have that ?