H-1B visa: Congressman seeks to kill OPT work permit for foreign students

[Kaniska]

Yes, those who call their parents who are 60+ years old and useless which is big with Pajeet community. Overweight females with diabetes and stuff, we can’t have those here.

The other one is called birth right citizenship should be tossed out as well. If a parent is a citizen only that should be transferred to the child.

US immigrant policy is to lenient and needs tightening of screws.

Soon it’ll come to the point where the Democratic Party will have to support the Republicans as future politics will be far right and US being majority white the Demos can’t lose that base entirely.

Already seen how that multicultural NY House Rep. AOC — screwed up deals and how unpopular she’ll be getting.

As usual, you have a habbit of turning a good debate to show your hatred for Hindus and Indian...Why are in illusion that Pakistan and other South Asian Muslim countries do not abuse the system with familly based GC...

Ask any of your friends from Dallas about how Familly based green card is used and misused to make business in Pakistani community Richardson area...

Stop dragging or pin pointing Indian when you are fully aware than you are not saint either...

I won't deny that Indians techies are not a drain on American welfare. But neither are Pakistanis or Russian or Chinese techies.

Problem is that there are millions of Americans--doesn't matter of European descent or not--who are qualified to take tech jobs but can't because of various visa/immigration scams. Denying Americans job to bring in those whose primary qualification is being cheap labor, with difficult accents, questionable qualifications--and, yes, for every Satya Nadella there are a 10,000 unqualified Indians (and the rest of the world).

Every country must protect it's own citizens, especially in times like these. Support 'US Tech Workers'.

PS. I consider Indian techies and the rapidly growing Indian population in America to be a strategic threat to Pakistan. The same way the Israeli Lobby has guided American policies in the Middle East to the detriment of the Arab world is going to happen to Pakistan once Indians in America get enough clout.

You can not wear both hats in arugument...Pakistan and US interest will never converge because the value system of both nations are different...So forget India, If Pakistan has to win US friendship, then Pakistan has change narrative of your approach towards US...

US society in general will always believe in liberal values where all religion are equally respected...Fundamentally all Islamic nations are created for the interests of one religion assuming that other religions are inferior..

Now coming to Visa scams...Defly there is a abuse with the system...But does that mean Pakistan has not abused visa system at all?

So i do not have any problem is calling out the visa system should go...But why only target H1b visa only...What is the contributing of refugee visa and familly visa in our American ecosystem...Why the heck even US should be the gate keeper to allow illegal refugees to take citizenship where legal immigrants find it difficult to get a Gc?

Why even US is allowing citizenship to the people from native countries who are politically and value system wise are opposite direction to American values?
And again, it seems you are concerned about American white people not getting jobs..But if you are really thinking about them, then it is a mistake from US ,to even think for native people from countries where religious supremacy of one religion is always supported against others,to assimilate to US value system??So US should rightfully put additional restriction to the people from countries which are not secular and democratic to take GC and citizenship here...

So again, let us take a brodbased approch to stop visa scam and rather than cherry picking to naik down Indian H1b only.

 

[cloud4000]

If you want to reform the H-1B process, specifically, and immigration, generally, than I'm all for it. But to throw out immigrants, especially if there are qualified is a good way to shoot oneself in the foot. The US is what it's today because of immigration. If the US relied strictly on natives, it would've gone down the tubes years ago.

 

[Kaniska]

If you want to reform the H-1B process, specifically, and immigration, generally, than I'm all for it. But to throw out immigrants, especially if there are qualified is a good way to shoot oneself in the foot. The US is what it's today because of immigration. If the US relied strictly on natives, it would've gone down the tubes years ago.

Do not worry...I am hearing these Indian hating lobby since 1995...Trump has given enough indications to stop familly based and refugee GC in his next term...If he is coming for 2nd time, there may be stricter rules for Familly and refugee visa which is exclusively misused by specific groups in the name of war in their region..

 

[Meengla]

As usual, you have a habbit of turning a good debate to show your hatred for Hindus and Indian...Why are in illusion that Pakistan and other South Asian Muslim countries do not abuse the system with familly based GC...

Ask any of your friends from Dallas about how Familly based green card is used and misused to make business in Pakistani community Richardson area...

Stop dragging or pin pointing Indian when you are fully aware than you are not saint either...




You can not wear both hats in arugument...Pakistan and US interest will never converge because the value system of both nations are different...So forget India, If Pakistan has to win US friendship, then Pakistan has change narrative of your approach towards US...

US society in general will always believe in liberal values where all religion are equally respected...Fundamentally all Islamic nations are created for the interests of one religion assuming that other religions are inferior..

Now coming to Visa scams...Defly there is a abuse with the system...But does that mean Pakistan has not abused visa system at all?

So i do not have any problem is calling out the visa system should go...But why only target H1b visa only...What is the contributing of refugee visa and familly visa in our American ecosystem...Why the heck even US should be the gate keeper to allow illegal refugees to take citizenship where legal immigrants find it difficult to get a Gc?

Why even US is allowing citizenship to the people from native countries who are politically and value system wise are opposite direction to American values?
And again, it seems you are concerned about American white people not getting jobs..But if you are really thinking about them, then it is a mistake from US ,to even think for native people from countries where religious supremacy of one religion is always supported against others,to assimilate to US value system??So US should rightfully put additional restriction to the people from countries which are not secular and democratic to take GC and citizenship here...

So again, let us take a brodbased approch to stop visa scam and rather than cherry picking to naik down Indian H1b only.

You have loaded your arguments with big words like 'value system'. The Indian 'value system' or what you are implying as Islamic value system vs the American value system. That's just obfuscation! Firstly, I have no soft spot for the refugee system abuse. But there is no denying that the wars in Iraq, Syria and Libya are the biggest follies which could not have been possible in their magnitude of destruction without the mercenary policies of some Western countries. What kind of 'value system' is THAT?!! How many Libyans were fleeing to Europe under Qaddafi?!

Let's not get too deep into the 'value system' crap. Indian 'value system' is not Western. I know Muslims don't but Indians don't integrate that well either. The net is full of successful Indians but they are mostly a world into themselves. There are stories of how Indian management has arrogantly displaced Americans and even subjected them to train their replacements. There is going to be a backlash in America against Indians, and by extension to all brown people, eventually.

Stick to the practical challenges: The abuse of the H1B system, and yes, Indians are the spearhead of that dagger into the heart of the American labor force. There are literally millions of Americans currently unemployed. But even before the recent crises, many American qualified tech workers were bumped off by the Indian management. H1B for tech workers at least needs to stop right now and if reinstated needs to be closely monitored.

And this is not about 'white Americans': This is about all Americans. Even the college graduates of Indian origin in America are likely to face the competition from the scammers. There are immigrants of even Indian origin who would oppose more work visas.

 

[Type59]

American jobs for Americans. If real shortage then import labour. At moment fake shortages to justify imports.

 

[49savage]

Automation is a bigger threat than immigrants. Nobody cares about automation. How many jobs do you think immigrants take? 10%? 20%? Automation will wipe out at least 50%.

Immigrants pay taxes and robots don't. The anti-immigrant sentiment excuse is so old and its such a cheap cop out. If America didn't have immigrants, it would be China ruling the world right now.

If you don't want others to be able to immigrate, then neither should you. Want for others what you want for yourself.

Spot on. Everything Andrew Yang campaigned on has come true. Immigrants are being scapegoated. Trump is not dishing out socialist checks lol.

 

[Vikram.veda]

You have loaded your arguments with big words like 'value system'. The Indian 'value system' or what you are implying as Islamic value system vs the American value system. That's just obfuscation! Firstly, I have no soft spot for the refugee system abuse. But there is no denying that the wars in Iraq, Syria and Libya are the biggest follies which could not have been possible in their magnitude of destruction without the mercenary policies of some Western countries. What kind of 'value system' is THAT?!! How many Libyans were fleeing to Europe under Qaddafi?!

Let's not get too deep into the 'value system' crap. Indian 'value system' is not Western. I know Muslims don't but Indians don't integrate that well either. The net is full of successful Indians but they are mostly a world into themselves. There are stories of how Indian management has arrogantly displaced Americans and even subjected them to train their replacements. There is going to be a backlash in America against Indians, and by extension to all brown people, eventually.

Stick to the practical challenges: The abuse of the H1B system, and yes, Indians are the spearhead of that dagger into the heart of the American labor force. There are literally millions of Americans currently unemployed. But even before the recent crises, many American qualified tech workers were bumped off by the Indian management. H1B for tech workers at least needs to stop right now and if reinstated needs to be closely monitored.

And this is not about 'white Americans': This is about all Americans. Even the college graduates of Indian origin in America are likely to face the competition from the scammers. There are immigrants of even Indian origin who would oppose more work visas.

You completely added your bias into the American bias. Of course, there are complaints from Americans about Indians. I remember when Trump got elected, there were repeated queries raised in H1-B processing. My brother faced similar dilemma and he wanted to quit America for Canada. His company tried to find local replacement as it was difficult to retain H1 Bs. May be after a month of trying they contacted him again as majority of Americans were lazy to even show up for interviews. Those who did come were not qualified and had general experience than a specific experience. So they offered to place him in their Canadian branch and had his entire PR processed and promised a raise in a year.

Also, just take a look at American universities. I studied in America myself. All of STEM courses have Indians as majority students ( like about 50%). They can't just find replacement to such qualifications.

 

[dbc]

Also, just take a look at American universities. I studied in America myself. All of STEM courses have Indians as majority students ( like about 50%). They can't just find replacement to such qualifications.

Only 23% of the total STEM seats in US universities is held by foreign students. Indian's represent the second highest population at 154,000. So I guess 77% of STEM students currently enrolled in the US are Americans. I guess if you pick Vedic science more than 50% percent of the students will be Indian.

 

[jericho]

I guess if you pick Vedic science more than 50% percent of the students will be Indian.

He might be including the ones caught in fake universities enrollment in his BS percentages. An example of that is below

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...m-fake-us-university/articleshow/72269732.cms

 

[Vikram.veda]

Only 23% of the total STEM seats in US universities is held by foreign students. Indian's represent the second highest population at 154,000. So I guess 77% of STEM students currently enrolled in the US are Americans. I guess if you pick Vedic science more than 50% percent of the students will be Indian.

Lol. I meant masters level programs.

 

[dbc]

Lol. I meant masters level programs.

Masters is 44% foreign students majority are Chinese.

 

[xeuss]

Masters is 44% foreign students majority are Chinese.

Lol...there are facts, and then there are "Indian" facts

 

[ChennaiDude]

You are not welcome here. Stay where you are.

Says an Immigrant (Past.Present)- (If you a Native American you might have a say)- This is a land of Immigrants - wait till Nov 2020-Everything will be back to normal.

It's not Ivy League but among the Top 50.

I'm talking about the situation 2 years from now. Btw I'm going to do CS.

Never heard that you don't get jobs if you are not from Ivy League.

All BS (Dont jump on the fake news gravy train- There is an absolute shortage of even decent level Software Engineers)- Pick ML/AI specialization you are going to be in demand in 2 to 3 years from now.

 

[PakFactor]

Masters is 44% foreign students majority are Chinese.

Lol...there are facts, and then there are "Indian" facts

Watch him come back and say more Indians in PhD you might as well give the numbers for that also, lol.

 

[ChennaiDude]

American jobs for Americans. If real shortage then import labour. At moment fake shortages to justify imports.

There is a shortage of STEM/Software Engineers in NA-(Canada and USA)- Thats the fact.
I agree America does not need Uber Drivers/Gas station clerks/Construction and Limousine drivers.