Greece vs Turkey

[Dai Toruko]

Guys... What's the point of this?

Hiiim?

Point is the italian troll forgot WW2.
Italians couldn't even occupy Greece because they are to stupid. They needed their boyfriend germany to help them, what weaklings.

 

[flamer84]

Point is the italian troll forgot WW2.
Italians couldn't even occupy Greece because they are to stupid. They needed their boyfriend germany to help them, what weaklings.

Well, during the Greek Independence War, Turkish Ottoman armies were beaten to a pulp by out manned, out gunned Greek farmers,to the extent they had to call Egyptian help. And that was barely half of what Greece is today while Turkey was alot bigger.

 

[HannibalBarca]

"The Greeks were later assisted by the Russian Empire, Great Britain, the Kingdom of France, and several other European powers, while the Ottomans were aided by their vassals, the eyalets of Egypt, Algeria, and Tripolitania, and the Beylik of Tunis."

Fantasy speculation... OVER! Period.

Ps: The Greeks allies were Few times stronger than the Allies of the Ottomans... The great britain alone was stronger than those forces at that time...

 

[flamer84]

"The Greeks were later assisted by the Russian Empire, Great Britain, the Kingdom of France, and several other European powers, while the Ottomans were aided by their vassals, the eyalets of Egypt, Algeria, and Tripolitania, and the Beylik of Tunis."

Fantasy speculation... OVER! Period.

Anyway empire vs peasants. ...one on one the Greeks raped them .

 

[HannibalBarca]

Anyway empire vs peasants. ...one on one the Greeks raped them .

No...since it didn't happen... the revolution started with Revolutionary GUARDS... armed... therefore it wasn't a farmer/peasants vs empire... since the war broke with allies almost directly jumping in it... FOR BOTH SIDES
Greek independance war WASN'T a RUSSIAN style revo, like during the fall of the Tsar... that was a Farmer vs Army for the RU..

 

[flamer84]

No..;since it didn't happen... the revolution started with Revolutionary GUARDS, armed... therefore it wasn't a farmer vs guard... since the war broke with allies almost directly jumping in it... FOR BOTH SIDES

No...it wasn't like that.You're obviously historically illiterate.The Greeks destroyed the Turks and they had to call the Egyptians but after that EUROPEANS intervened and send the turks to sleep with the fishes at Navarino

 

[HannibalBarca]

No...it wasn't like that.You're obviously historically illiterate.The Greeks destroyed the Turks and they had to call the Egyptians but after that EUROPEANS intervened and send the turks to sleep with the fishes at Navarino

Egyptians came at first only for for Crete and Cyprus rebellion... Anyway... I let you in your "TRUE" history facts...
Next Time try to resume a 11 years old war better than that... and you will see that it wasn't a full scale war... but mostly what we see right now in Iraq/syria... rebels in remote areas... terro and such... who ended WITH a FULL scale one...

 

[flamer84]

Egyptians came at first only for for Crete and Cyprus rebellion... Anyway... I let you in your "TRUE" history facts...

Dude,these are not grandma's stories....anyone can read history on the internet. Drop it.

 

[El Sidd]

with the current economic collapse of Greece. Turkey can finally take revenge for Troy lol

I think the comparison should be about cultural similarities between the two.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Dude,these are not grandma's stories....anyone can read history on the internet. Drop it.

Then re-read it... and you will be happy... or not.

with the current economic collapse of Greece. Turkey can finally take revenge for Troy lol

I think the comparison should be about cultural similarities between the two.

A full war will not break btw Turkey and GReece... if any "limit" conflict happen... it will mostly be one othem taking more island and vice versa.. putting both countries in another "Simili- cold war"...

 

[DejanSRB]

There is two myths in Europe today :


1) French are surrender monkeys.
According to historian Niall Ferguson, France is most succesful European nation in military history, GB is second and Russia is third (thanks to Russo-Ottoman wars, where Russia lead 8-3).
2) Italians are pu$$ies.
Just Italian contribution in WW1 is good alone to beat that statement. My great grandfather on father side was soldier of Austrian army during WW1, and Italian front was one of most tough theater in whole conflict, if you really want to learn something about that, just read White War by Mark Thompson.

On the other side, the only reason of misery of Italian army during WW2 is Musolini purges of high class officers.

Actually, there is third myth too,
Russian winter - political myth coined by Westerners to justified miserably failures of Western armies (Teutonic, Swedes, French, German...) against "barbarian and primitive" Russians.

 

[El Sidd]

Then re-read it... and you will be happy... or not.


A full war will not break btw Turkey and GReece... if any "limit" conflict happen... it will mostly be one othem taking more island and vice versa.. putting both countries in another "Simili- cold war"...

Why would you go to war with an economically collapsed Greece?

What's with all the hysteria here?

You guys are quite similar you know that yourself

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why would you go to war with an economically collapsed Greece?

What's with all the hysteria here?

You guys are quite similar you know that yourself

It was an answer to your "revenge" thingy..; or maybe I took it in the side of "war"...

There is two myths in Europe today :


1) French are surrender monkeys.
According to historian Niall Ferguson, France is most succesful European nation in military history, GB is second and Russia is third (thanks to Russo-Ottoman wars, where Russia lead 8-3).
2) Italians are pu$$ies.
Just Italian contribution in WW1 is good alone to beat that statement. My great grandfather on father side was soldier of Austrian army during WW1, and Italian front was one of most tough theater in whole conflict, if you really want to learn something about that, just read White War by Mark Thompson.

On the other side, the only reason of misery of Italian army during WW2 is Musolini purges of high class officers.

Actually, there is third myth too,
Russian winter - political myth coined by Westerners to justified miserably failures of Western armies (Teutonic, Swedes, French, German...) against "barbarian and primitive" Russians.

Well it's not really a myth about the winter... NApoleon Did lose almost everything during the RU winter... if it didn't happen .. then our future will have been quite different...

 

[El Sidd]

It was an answer to your "revenge" thingy..; or maybe I took it in the side of "war"...

I was being sarcastic. With all the invasion theories being thrown around trying to find the least derivative of DNAs to ancient legends.

 

[DejanSRB]

It was an answer to your "revenge" thingy..; or maybe I took it in the side of "war"...



Well it's not really a myth about the winter... NApoleon Did lose almost everything during the RU winter... if it didn't happen .. then our future will have been quite different...

Yes it is a MYTH.
Russian tactics, Russian light cavalry and Russian winter was key factors, but Russian winter alone - NOT EVEN CLOSE.

My fiance earned her PhD in that field.

If you want to learn something about that, read this.

Alan Palmer "Napoleon in Russia"
Russia against Napoleon by Dominic Livien
Napoleon's invasion of Russia by George Nafziger.