Greece approved to buy 10 US Army CH-47D Chinooks

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Boeing has been given the go ahead to sell 10 CH-47 Chinook heavy lift helicopters to Greece, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced on 11 December.

Greece requested and the US State Department approved the sale of up to 10 D-model Chinooks and supporting equipment for a total cost of $150 million.

Rather than a foreign military sale by Boeing to Greece, the deal has no principal contractor. The aircraft will come from US Army stock, DSCA says.

Greece already operates a fleet of 15 CH-47Ds, meaning it “will have no difficulty absorbing these helicopters into its armed forces”, the announcement says. The deal will require assignment of US government or Boeing personnel to Greece at some point.

The D-model Chinook has been supplanted in the US Army by the CH-47F, which sports an upgraded Honeywell T55-714A engines, a Rockwell Collins common avionics architecture system (CAAS) cockpit and BAE Systems' digital advanced flight control system. Eventually the US army will replace all of its Chinooks with CH-47Fs.

The army already has upgraded many D-model Chinooks to CH-47F configuration, but will take delivery of hundreds of new-build F-models, which also have a milled, single-construction airframe that eliminates many of the metal seams that wear from vibration. Boeing has already built at least 300 F-model Chinooks, which are being marketed also to international customers. In this case, Greece is buying D-model Chinooks the army has replaced with the upgraded CH-47F.

The Greek government requested the sale of a host of spare parts and support equipment along with the 10 CH-47Ds. That includes 23 T55-GA-714A Engines, 20 of which will be installed and three spares.
The country also wants enough common missile warning systems, high/very-high/ultra-high frequency radios, direction finder sets, GPS navigation sets, homing radios and transponders to outfit the ten helicopters, with spares left over.

“This sale will contribute to both the United States’ and Greece’s defense and security goal of greater stability in the Balkans and the Levant regions by enhancing a critical helicopter lift capability,” DSCA says. “This sale will facilitate greater interoperability of Greek systems both bilaterally and within NATO.”

source: Greece approved to buy 10 US Army CH-47D Chinooks - 12/12/2014 - Flight Global

There's basically no competition in this field yet. We already have 15 CH-47Ds and will soon get another 10. Although the Turkish army aviation will soon be supplied with 6 CH-47Fs that will ensure its qualitative prowess, it will still have a quantitative deficit which will ensure the Greek army's aviation edge in combat effectiveness on the heavy lift category. Though it can only act as a counterbalance to the overall dominance of Turkey's army air corps when it comes to medium-weight and small transport helicopters.

 

[Tshering22]

But how exactly do you plan to keep building up your military when your economy is in such a bad shape? Hellenic forces are some of the most prominent European militaries throughout the history.

Don't you think Greece should embrace the NATO security cover and continue to build up economy before actually thinking of further strengthening the military?

 

[As is - where is]

Asking for NATO to defend us would equal asking Turkey to protect us from itself. NATO can defend us from Russia I guess (as if Russia would go after us). I think that with small improvements here and there, until the economy is strong enough to seriously consider large programs that we've put on hold (e.g. New Fighter Aircraft program, New Frigate program etc) we'll be ok.

 

[Zarvan]

Boeing has been given the go ahead to sell 10 CH-47 Chinook heavy lift helicopters to Greece, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced on 11 December.

Greece requested and the US State Department approved the sale of up to 10 D-model Chinooks and supporting equipment for a total cost of $150 million.

Rather than a foreign military sale by Boeing to Greece, the deal has no principal contractor. The aircraft will come from US Army stock, DSCA says.

Greece already operates a fleet of 15 CH-47Ds, meaning it “will have no difficulty absorbing these helicopters into its armed forces”, the announcement says. The deal will require assignment of US government or Boeing personnel to Greece at some point.

The D-model Chinook has been supplanted in the US Army by the CH-47F, which sports an upgraded Honeywell T55-714A engines, a Rockwell Collins common avionics architecture system (CAAS) cockpit and BAE Systems' digital advanced flight control system. Eventually the US army will replace all of its Chinooks with CH-47Fs.

The army already has upgraded many D-model Chinooks to CH-47F configuration, but will take delivery of hundreds of new-build F-models, which also have a milled, single-construction airframe that eliminates many of the metal seams that wear from vibration. Boeing has already built at least 300 F-model Chinooks, which are being marketed also to international customers. In this case, Greece is buying D-model Chinooks the army has replaced with the upgraded CH-47F.

The Greek government requested the sale of a host of spare parts and support equipment along with the 10 CH-47Ds. That includes 23 T55-GA-714A Engines, 20 of which will be installed and three spares.
The country also wants enough common missile warning systems, high/very-high/ultra-high frequency radios, direction finder sets, GPS navigation sets, homing radios and transponders to outfit the ten helicopters, with spares left over.

“This sale will contribute to both the United States’ and Greece’s defense and security goal of greater stability in the Balkans and the Levant regions by enhancing a critical helicopter lift capability,” DSCA says. “This sale will facilitate greater interoperability of Greek systems both bilaterally and within NATO.”

source: Greece approved to buy 10 US Army CH-47D Chinooks - 12/12/2014 - Flight Global

There's basically no competition in this field yet. We already have 15 CH-47Ds and will soon get another 10. Although the Turkish army aviation will soon be supplied with 6 CH-47Fs that will ensure its qualitative prowess, it will still have a quantitative deficit which will ensure the Greek army's aviation edge in combat effectiveness on the heavy lift category. Though it can only act as a counterbalance to the overall dominance of Turkey's army air corps when it comes to medium-weight and small transport helicopters.

This country is a serious joke this country has massive economic troubles doesn't has the enemy like we have but every second day you hear that Greece is buying some weapons

 

[rmi5]

Asking for NATO to defend us would equal asking Turkey to protect us from itself. NATO can defend us from Russia I guess (as if Russia would go after us). I think that with small improvements here and there, until the economy is strong enough to seriously consider large programs that we've put on hold (e.g. New Fighter Aircraft program, New Frigate program etc) we'll be ok.

Turks are not after attacking your country but it is always logical to remain vigilant and prepared, even against your brother countries.
BTW, I think it is a really good deal for your country

 

[Hakan]

Boeing has been given the go ahead to sell 10 CH-47 Chinook heavy lift helicopters to Greece, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced on 11 December.

Greece requested and the US State Department approved the sale of up to 10 D-model Chinooks and supporting equipment for a total cost of $150 million.

Rather than a foreign military sale by Boeing to Greece, the deal has no principal contractor. The aircraft will come from US Army stock, DSCA says.

Greece already operates a fleet of 15 CH-47Ds, meaning it “will have no difficulty absorbing these helicopters into its armed forces”, the announcement says. The deal will require assignment of US government or Boeing personnel to Greece at some point.

The D-model Chinook has been supplanted in the US Army by the CH-47F, which sports an upgraded Honeywell T55-714A engines, a Rockwell Collins common avionics architecture system (CAAS) cockpit and BAE Systems' digital advanced flight control system. Eventually the US army will replace all of its Chinooks with CH-47Fs.

The army already has upgraded many D-model Chinooks to CH-47F configuration, but will take delivery of hundreds of new-build F-models, which also have a milled, single-construction airframe that eliminates many of the metal seams that wear from vibration. Boeing has already built at least 300 F-model Chinooks, which are being marketed also to international customers. In this case, Greece is buying D-model Chinooks the army has replaced with the upgraded CH-47F.

The Greek government requested the sale of a host of spare parts and support equipment along with the 10 CH-47Ds. That includes 23 T55-GA-714A Engines, 20 of which will be installed and three spares.
The country also wants enough common missile warning systems, high/very-high/ultra-high frequency radios, direction finder sets, GPS navigation sets, homing radios and transponders to outfit the ten helicopters, with spares left over.

“This sale will contribute to both the United States’ and Greece’s defense and security goal of greater stability in the Balkans and the Levant regions by enhancing a critical helicopter lift capability,” DSCA says. “This sale will facilitate greater interoperability of Greek systems both bilaterally and within NATO.”

source: Greece approved to buy 10 US Army CH-47D Chinooks - 12/12/2014 - Flight Global

There's basically no competition in this field yet. We already have 15 CH-47Ds and will soon get another 10. Although the Turkish army aviation will soon be supplied with 6 CH-47Fs that will ensure its qualitative prowess, it will still have a quantitative deficit which will ensure the Greek army's aviation edge in combat effectiveness on the heavy lift category. Though it can only act as a counterbalance to the overall dominance of Turkey's army air corps when it comes to medium-weight and small transport helicopters.

Overall greece has a pretty good military. When you look at the inventory you can tell that good choices were made about which equipment to buy. What kind of indigenous stuff do you guys have? I heard about a cruise missile and some vehicles.

 

[Echo_419]

But how exactly do you plan to keep building up your military when your economy is in such a bad shape? Hellenic forces are some of the most prominent European militaries throughout the history.

Don't you think Greece should embrace the NATO security cover and continue to build up economy before actually thinking of further strengthening the military?

Agreed economy should be their main focus

 

[As is - where is]

Overall greece has a pretty good military. When you look at the inventory you can tell that good choices were made about which equipment to buy. What kind of indigenous stuff do you guys have? I heard about a cruise missile and some vehicles.

We can produce pretty much everything under license, from frigates and submarines to tanks, armored vehicles and firearms. We also have developed further some foreign designs and ended up with systems such as the Leonidas II APC. Then again we also have some projects that were designed, developed and produced here. These would be the Pegasus II UAV, some landing crafts, anti-aircraft guns and a few firearms. There are obviously many more Greek projects that are still being designed or developed although a cruise missile is still in the domain of an abstract design and is not likely to be realized any time soon.