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48 hours from a war in Syria? MPs vote on air strikes after humiliated Corbyn caves in to rebels and offers them a free vote
  • PM said he would put his plan to Cabinet at its regular meeting on Tuesday
  • Corbyn opposes airstrikes and insisted he would decide how Labour votes
  • Almost 100 of the 231 Labour MPs ready to back military action
  • Corbyn demands parliamentary debate lasting two days before decision
  • Cameron now set to get a 'clear majority' in vote on Wednesday this week
  • See more on Corbyn and Labour at www.dailymail.co.uk/labour
By JAMES SLACK and JASON GROVES - DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR, DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 12:39, 30 November 2015 | UPDATED: 00:10, 1 December 2015


Britain was last night preparing to start bombing Islamic State in Syria within 48 hours.

After a day of huge drama at Westminster, the Prime Minister announced MPs will vote on military action tomorrow.

The RAF is now readying Tornado fighter jets and Typhoon Eurofighters to launch the first strikes against IS fanatics within hours if – as now seems almost certain – Parliament votes in favour.

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David Cameron has announced he will hold a debate Wednesday on whether Britain should launch airstrikes against militants in Syria

In a statement at 10 Downing Street, Mr Cameron, who appears here on SkyNews, said he would put his plan to Cabinet at its regular meeting on Tuesday

David Cameron said he believed there was growing support among MPs ‘to answer the call from our allies to act against Isil in Syria and Iraq’.

He added: ‘It is in the national interest, it is the right thing to do. We will be careful and responsible as we do so – but in my view it’s the right thing to do this to keep our country safe.’

Mr Cameron said the decision to take military action was ‘one of the most serious a prime minister can make’ but – in the wake of the Paris attacks – it was clear IS ‘poses a very direct threat to the United Kingdom’.

He took the decision to hold the vote following a day of bedlam in the Labour Party which left Jeremy Corbyn humiliated and Tory whips finally confident of success.

Yesterday morning, the Labour leader’s allies had warned that – if he gave his MPs a free vote – it would be handing certain victory to Mr Cameron.

Initially it appeared as if Mr Corbyn would stick to his principles and demand Labour MPs vote against military action. The leadership even released an unscientific poll of party members claiming 75 per cent were against bombing raids.

But, amid open revolt and threats of mass resignations, Mr Corbyn eventually caved in at a shadow cabinet meeting yesterday afternoon and offered the free vote. He is now facing recriminations from both the hard-Left – which wanted him to make a stand – and the moderates in his party for his botched handling of the debate.

Labour sources said he was ‘given a kicking’ in the meeting. Up to 100 Labour rebels could vote in favour of military action. Last night, there were also indications the Liberal Democrats might also support bombing.


Last night, senior Labour figures said that – while significant numbers of its MPs might still vote for military action – Mr Cameron had made a ‘huge tactical mistake’.

The party leadership had called for a two day debate to give all MPs a chance to have their say – and press the PM on what plan he has to defeat Islamic State on the ground. Labour sources hinted that, without the opportunity for a two-day debate, some MPs who supported the principle of air strikes might now vote against or abstain.

Mr Cameron said: ‘We will make sure that we have a very long and full debate on Wednesday and we will take the action necessary to make sure we have, in many ways, the equivalent number of questions we would often have across a two-day debate in one day.

’I want MPs to be able to have full consideration, to make speeches, to make points, to ask me questions, to examine the Government’s case.’

A statement from Mr Corbyn’s office said the shadow cabinet had ‘decided to support the call for David Cameron to step back from the rush to war and hold a full two-day debate in the House of Commons on such a crucial national decision’. Labour ‘agreed to call David Cameron to account on the unanswered questions raised by his case for bombing’, including how it would bring about a negotiated settlement in Syria and which ground troops would seize territory vacated by IS.

Last night, Jeremy Corbyn claimed the Prime Minister was engaged in a ‘rush to war’.

A spokesman said: ‘By refusing a full two-day debate, David Cameron is demonstrating he knows the debate is running away from him, and that the case he made last week is falling apart.

‘The Prime Minister should stop the rush to war to allow for a full discussion of the issues.’



Corbyn's day of humiliation: Labour leader forced to free vote on Syria air strikes after revolt in shadow cabinet

Jeremy Corbyn was humiliated by his shadow cabinet yesterday when he was forced to ditch plans to order his MPs to vote against air strikes in Syria.

Instead – in a dramatic U-turn – they will be offered a free vote on whether or not to back the attacks on Islamic State terrorists.

During a stormy two-hour meeting, Labour’s top team lined up to criticise their leader for his shambolic handling of the issue.

They also forced him to abandon an attempt to unilaterally change Labour’s policy to outright opposition to war – an initiative which his aides had briefed to friendly newspapers as the meeting began. Mr Corbyn had put his faltering authority on the line over the issue. He also came under fire later yesterday at a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party and was seen making a hasty exit and looking ashen-faced.

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David Cameron, pictured in Paris today, made an urgent statement tonight on the timetable for Britain joining airstrikes in Syria after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was forced into a humiliating retreat on offering a free vote

Labour is left in the bizarre position of having no position on whether Britain should use military force against terrorist fanatics plotting to carry out atrocities in this country.

Mr Corbyn will speak out against air strikes when he responds to Mr Cameron’s proposals in the Commons – expected tomorrow – while shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn is expected to use the debate to speak in favour. A Labour source denied the party’s position was a shambles but admitted it was unusual for the front bench to make the case both for and against war.

A source said Mr Corbyn still had ‘full confidence’ in Mr Benn, but added: ‘Jeremy will be speaking for majority Labour Party opinion, he will be speaking on the basis of Party policy and he will be speaking as the leader of the Labour Party elected with a landslide.’

The row was the culmination of a dramatic 48 hours which had initially seen the Labour leader attempt to strong-arm his party’s most senior figures into backing his pacifist stance.

Mr Corbyn, former chairman of the Stop the War coalition, hit the airwaves over the weekend and insisted that his view would prevail, adding: ‘It’s the leader who decides.’

WHAT HAPPENS NOW? COUNTDOWN TO BRITAIN BOMBING ISIS IN SYRIA
Monday

Labour MPs given a free vote after dozens pushed to support airstrikes in Syria. Government ministers drawing up a motion for Commons to vote on. David Cameron makes a statement confirming the timing of the vote.

Tuesday

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon to make the case for bombing to MPs on defence select committee. MPs from all parties invited to security briefings on the need for intervention.

Wednesday

Debate and vote on airstrikes could be held straight after PMQs with Cameron making the case for military action. If MPs approve action at around 7pm, the first missiles could land in Syria within hours.

Thursday

David Cameron is in Bulgaria for talks on EU reform and a by-election is being held in Oldham West and Royton by-election, making it unlikely a debate and vote would be held today.

His ally Diane Abbott stepped up the rhetoric yesterday, saying that allowing Labour MPs a free vote would ‘hand victory to Cameron’.

She added: ‘The truth is we now know the party as a whole, in the country and even within the Parliamentary Labour Party, is opposed to these bombings and they are looking to Jeremy to show leadership.’

The leader’s office then released the results of an unscientific poll of party supporters, claiming it showed three-quarters were against the war. Labour claimed to have sampled 1,900 of almost 108,000 responses received by the party at the weekend, although it later emerged the figure may have been closer to 100.

Mr Corbyn’s controversial communications chief Seamas Milne briefed the Guardian newspaper that although Labour MPs would get a free vote, the party’s policy would be changed to make it clear that anyone voting for war would be in breach of the party’s official position.

Infuriated members of the shadow cabinet then staged a co-ordinated revolt which forced Mr Corbyn into total capitulation.

Chief whip Rosie Winterton warned it would be impossible to whip the vote because almost 100 MPs, including members of her own office, backed Mr Cameron on the need for military action against IS.

Several members of the shadow cabinet warned they ‘would not leave the room’ until Mr Corbyn had backed down. Mr Benn threatened to step down and make the case for strikes from the backbenches.

Shadow home secretary Andy Burnham, who is undecided on the case for air strikes, criticised Mr Corbyn’s ‘poor handling’ of the issue – and condemned his attempt to mobilise party members against MPs. Another senior figure accused Mr Corbyn of trying to organise a ‘witch hunt’ against MPs who support military action. One shadow cabinet minister said Mr Corbyn got a ‘thorough kicking’ in the two hour-long meeting saying: ‘It was unlike any shadow cabinet meeting we’ve had before’.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, Mr Corbyn’s closest ally, and Labour’s deputy leader Tom Watson both encouraged him to allow a free vote. Mr Corbyn’s climb down dismayed allies on the Left and provoked anger against moderate MPs.


Pete Willsman, a member of Labour’s ruling National Executive Committee, said: ‘Jeremy is so soft he wouldn’t say boo to a goose, he’s so good-natured. I would be much tougher with these people.’

There was further humiliation when Labour MPs laid into Mr Corbyn at a meeting of the PLP. One Labour grandee said later that there was a ‘ferocity’ about the meeting and that Mr Corbyn appeared ‘crouched’.

Labour grandee Margaret Beckett confronted him over his appeal to members saying: ‘You cannot unite the party if the leaders’ office is determined to divide us.’ Jack Dromey said Labour could not ‘look mealy-mouthed on national security’.

THE BRIMSTONE MISSILE: BRITAIN'S DEADLY WEAPON IS AIMED AT ISIS
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The £100,000 missile, which was developed in Britain, first came into service in 2005 and is used by the RAF.

The laser-guided Brimstone missile, which can hit a small, fast-moving target, could be used by RAF pilots to assassinate IS leaders one by one.

Britain and Saudi Arabia are currently the only two countries in the world to have invested in Brimstones.

The British-designed missile destroys its target with a contained explosion that generates relatively little debris.

It is far more sophisticated than the Americans' Hellfire weapons, which generate a large and deadly field of shrapnel when they explode.

The £100,000 Brimstone – which was used against Colonel Gaddafi's regime in Libya in 2011 – can be fired from a Tornado GR4 at 20,000ft and is capable of hitting vehicles travelling at up to 70mph.

It can be launched from a plane which is flying up to seven miles away from its target.

Each missile has a small but highly focused explosive warhead – which reduces the chance of shrapnel hitting civilians – as well as an adjustable fuse which allows the pilot to decide exactly when it will explode.

The RAF would use the state-of-the-art weaponry to take out particular targets on a British 'kill list' in Syria should MPs vote in favour of extending the mission this week.

It is understood that Tornado planes would concentrate on hitting the 'upper tier' of IS leadership structure in their stronghold.

IS command posts and training camps will also be identified as key targets for any British aircraft operating over Syria, according to Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

The missile's dual-mode guidance system – with a laser designator and a sophisticated radar – makes it the ideal weapon for destroying IS fanatics driving on motorbikes or on gun trucks.

It also makes the RAF a formidable force in the IS stronghold of Raqqa, where other coalition nations have struggled to take out targets for fear of civilian

It is said to be especially good at targeting tanks and other heavy weaponry and uses a 'highly focused' explosive warhead to reduce shrapnel. This in turn can reduce the number of casualties.


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This is the moment the Brimstone is about to hit a car moving through the desert at more than 70mph

Sources close to the Prime Minister say he has been 'enraged' by senior ISIS figures being able to hide in Syria and 'wants to take them out'.

He told RAF commanders: 'We've got to go out and kill the bastards,' according to the Sunday Times.

The Indpendent newspaper quoted British Ministry of Defense source saying Britain is considering deploying Eurofighter Typhoons to Al Dhafra airbase, in the United Arab Emirates, on a long term basis for use against ISIS and to maintain mutual interest with GCC [Gulf] partners in ensuring peace and stability in the region.


Britain launched 17 deadly attacks in Iraq in the ten days since the Paris terror attacks, it emerged last week.

Seven of the raids came in the past three days in a clear escalation of force used since 130 people were killed by three teams of jihadis in the French capital on Friday, November 13.

In one extraordinary show of force one Tornado used a laser-guided Paveway bomb to kill 30 ISIS fighters massing for an attack against Kurdish forces. So far no British jets have been shot down.


Over the weekend Labour MPs have received thousands of emails from Stop the War and the hardleft Corbyn-supporting Momentum group.

The bombardment, coupled with abuse on Facebook and Twitter, is thought to have pressured some undecided MPs to agree to oppose military action.

One shadow cabinet minister told MailOnline: 'The bullying and intimidation they unleashed from Thursday onwards will have had an impact on some colleagues.

It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course
Jeremy Corbyn on Sunday
'It is also very hard to reconcile demanding a three-line whip with the new politics of debate, discussion, respect and a kinder way of doing politics.

'The last four days have blown a massive hole in that pretence.'


In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing.


A survey ordered by Mr Corbyn received 107,875 responses, of which 64,771 were confirmed as full individual Labour Party members.

An initial analysis of 1,900 responses showed 75 per cent opposed to bombing, 13 per cent in favour of the air strikes and 11 per cent undecided.

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Bizarrely, Mr Corbyn will open the debate for Labour, making the case against airstrikes, while his shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn will close it - despite being in favour of military action.

Over the weekend Labour MPs have received thousands of emails from Stop the War and the hardleft Corbyn-supporting Momentum group.

The bombardment, coupled with abuse on Facebook and Twitter, is thought to have pressured some undecided MPs to agree to oppose military action.

One shadow cabinet minister told MailOnline: 'The bullying and intimidation they unleashed from Thursday onwards will have had an impact on some colleagues.

It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course
Jeremy Corbyn on Sunday
'It is also very hard to reconcile demanding a three-line whip with the new politics of debate, discussion, respect and a kinder way of doing politics.

'The last four days have blown a massive hole in that pretence.'

In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing. lol


A survey ordered by Mr Corbyn received 107,875 responses, of which 64,771 were confirmed as full individual Labour Party members.

RED LEN: MPS PLOTTING TO OUST CORBYN ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE

Unite boss Len McCluskey accused rebels of a 'sickening' attempt to remove Mr Corbyn

Senior Labour MPs plotting to oust Jeremy Corbyn are 'playing with fire', Unite union boss Len McCluskey has warned.

He said the issue was being used as the 'thin edge to stage a coup' - and insisted his union would fight 'all the way' to prevent the tactic working.

In an article for Huffington Post, Mr McCluskey - who endorsed Mr Corbyn's bid for the leadership but has since criticised his performance - made clear that he thought David Cameron's plan to extend airstrikes from Iraq to Syria was 'illegal and irrational'.

He pointed out Mr Corbyn had an 'overwhelming' mandate from 60 per cent of Labour Party supporters.'

In a stark warning to Labour MPs plotting against the leader, Mr McCluskey added: 'They are playing with fire. Any attempt to force Labour's leader out through a Westminster Palace-coup will be resisted all the way by Unite and, I believe, most party members and affiliated unions.'

'He has been denounced for writing to MPs and party members making his views on Syria clear - as if his huge mandate, which included support for his long-standing anti-war record, had simply earned him the right to be seen but not heard,' Mr McCluskey said.

An initial analysis of 1,900 responses showed 75 per cent opposed to bombing, 13 per cent in favour of the air strikes and 11 per cent undecided.

Until today Mr Corbyn had three options: decide that the party whip - or order - all MPs to oppose strikes; he could let the shadow cabinet decide on whipping or he could give MPs a free vote.

Just yesterday he ruled out a free vote and sought to stamp his authority on the party, insisting: 'It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course.'

However, official Labour party rules state that decisions on whipping are made by the shadow cabinet not the leader.


Section R3 of the standing orders of the PLP, which governs Commons votes, says: 'While the party recognises the right of members to abstain from voting in the House on matters of deeply held personal conviction, any such personal intention shall be intimated in advance and as soon as possible to the Chief Whip.

'This does not entitle members to vote contrary to a decision of the Cabinet/Shadow Cabinet,' PoliticsHome reported.

Another frontbencher told MailOnline before today's meeting: 'I know this might seem difficult to believe but I think there is an element of chaos and confusion around the leader and his office.

'The leader doesn't decide the whipping arrangements, the shadow cabinet do. We will have a row about this.'

To add to the sense of confusion, just hours before the decision to offer a free vote was announced Ms Abbott went on the radio to insist all Labour MPs should be whipped.

The shadow international development secretary insisted decisions on 'matters of peace and war' should be made by the leader.

She added: 'It's a matter for the leader what the whipping will be, but we are a party of government and a party of government has to have a position on matters of peace and war.

'The problem about a free vote is it hands victory to Cameron over these air strikes, it hands victory to him on a plate. I don't think that's what party members want to see.'

Ms Abbott told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'Party members and, increasingly, the country, want to see us oppose these air strikes - which are not the solution - with every sinew of our being, and that would mean a three-line whip.'

Dozens of Labour MPs are thought to support air strikes, including a majority of the shadow cabinet, and imposing a whip could trigger a wave of resignations.

Ms Abbott said: 'Jeremy does not want to have either sackings or resignations, none of us want to lose valued colleagues.

'However, I think the party and increasingly the public would be disappointed if we didn't oppose these air strikes to the limits of our ability.'






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In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing

WHAT A MESS: HOW CORBYN & CO. CHANGED THEIR TUNE ON VOTE

As a low profile backbencher, Jeremy Corbyn rebelled against the Labour line more than 500 times and called for a free vote on military action.

As leader he insisted that was not an option and he was in charge, with ally Diane Abbott warning just this morning that a free vote would 'hand victory' to David Cameron.

But all that changed at today's shadow cabinet meeting. Here is how Mr Corbyn and his allies have changed their minds:

  • Jeremy Corbyn, 13 June 2013: 'On something so fundamental as the deployment of armed forces, a free vote is the right thing to do.'
  • John McDonnell, Sept 29: 'I am hoping on the Syria thing it should be a free vote on the basis of conscience.'
  • Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 16: 'I don't think a free vote is something that we are offering.'
  • Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 29: 'It's the leader who decides.'
  • Diane Abbott, Nov 30, 7.50am: 'The problem about a free vote is it hands victory to Cameron of these air strikes, it hands victory to him on a plate.'
  • Labour sources, Nov 30, 2pm: Labour will offer a free vote.
  • Spokesman for Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 30, 4.30pm: 'Today's Shadow Cabinet agreed to back Jeremy Corbyn's recommendation of a free vote on the Government's proposal to authorise UK bombing in Syria.'


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48 hours from a war in Syria? MPs vote on air strikes after humiliated Corbyn caves in to rebels and offers them a free vote
  • PM said he would put his plan to Cabinet at its regular meeting on Tuesday
  • Corbyn opposes airstrikes and insisted he would decide how Labour votes
  • Almost 100 of the 231 Labour MPs ready to back military action
  • Corbyn demands parliamentary debate lasting two days before decision
  • Cameron now set to get a 'clear majority' in vote on Wednesday this week
  • See more on Corbyn and Labour at www.dailymail.co.uk/labour
By JAMES SLACK and JASON GROVES - DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR, DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 12:39, 30 November 2015 | UPDATED: 00:10, 1 December 2015


Britain was last night preparing to start bombing Islamic State in Syria within 48 hours.

After a day of huge drama at Westminster, the Prime Minister announced MPs will vote on military action tomorrow.

The RAF is now readying Tornado fighter jets and Typhoon Eurofighters to launch the first strikes against IS fanatics within hours if – as now seems almost certain – Parliament votes in favour.

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David Cameron has announced he will hold a debate Wednesday on whether Britain should launch airstrikes against militants in Syria

In a statement at 10 Downing Street, Mr Cameron, who appears here on SkyNews, said he would put his plan to Cabinet at its regular meeting on Tuesday

David Cameron said he believed there was growing support among MPs ‘to answer the call from our allies to act against Isil in Syria and Iraq’.

He added: ‘It is in the national interest, it is the right thing to do. We will be careful and responsible as we do so – but in my view it’s the right thing to do this to keep our country safe.’

Mr Cameron said the decision to take military action was ‘one of the most serious a prime minister can make’ but – in the wake of the Paris attacks – it was clear IS ‘poses a very direct threat to the United Kingdom’.

He took the decision to hold the vote following a day of bedlam in the Labour Party which left Jeremy Corbyn humiliated and Tory whips finally confident of success.

Yesterday morning, the Labour leader’s allies had warned that – if he gave his MPs a free vote – it would be handing certain victory to Mr Cameron.

Initially it appeared as if Mr Corbyn would stick to his principles and demand Labour MPs vote against military action. The leadership even released an unscientific poll of party members claiming 75 per cent were against bombing raids.

But, amid open revolt and threats of mass resignations, Mr Corbyn eventually caved in at a shadow cabinet meeting yesterday afternoon and offered the free vote. He is now facing recriminations from both the hard-Left – which wanted him to make a stand – and the moderates in his party for his botched handling of the debate.

Labour sources said he was ‘given a kicking’ in the meeting. Up to 100 Labour rebels could vote in favour of military action. Last night, there were also indications the Liberal Democrats might also support bombing.


Last night, senior Labour figures said that – while significant numbers of its MPs might still vote for military action – Mr Cameron had made a ‘huge tactical mistake’.

The party leadership had called for a two day debate to give all MPs a chance to have their say – and press the PM on what plan he has to defeat Islamic State on the ground. Labour sources hinted that, without the opportunity for a two-day debate, some MPs who supported the principle of air strikes might now vote against or abstain.

Mr Cameron said: ‘We will make sure that we have a very long and full debate on Wednesday and we will take the action necessary to make sure we have, in many ways, the equivalent number of questions we would often have across a two-day debate in one day.

’I want MPs to be able to have full consideration, to make speeches, to make points, to ask me questions, to examine the Government’s case.’

A statement from Mr Corbyn’s office said the shadow cabinet had ‘decided to support the call for David Cameron to step back from the rush to war and hold a full two-day debate in the House of Commons on such a crucial national decision’. Labour ‘agreed to call David Cameron to account on the unanswered questions raised by his case for bombing’, including how it would bring about a negotiated settlement in Syria and which ground troops would seize territory vacated by IS.

Last night, Jeremy Corbyn claimed the Prime Minister was engaged in a ‘rush to war’.

A spokesman said: ‘By refusing a full two-day debate, David Cameron is demonstrating he knows the debate is running away from him, and that the case he made last week is falling apart.

‘The Prime Minister should stop the rush to war to allow for a full discussion of the issues.’



Corbyn's day of humiliation: Labour leader forced to free vote on Syria air strikes after revolt in shadow cabinet

Jeremy Corbyn was humiliated by his shadow cabinet yesterday when he was forced to ditch plans to order his MPs to vote against air strikes in Syria.

Instead – in a dramatic U-turn – they will be offered a free vote on whether or not to back the attacks on Islamic State terrorists.

During a stormy two-hour meeting, Labour’s top team lined up to criticise their leader for his shambolic handling of the issue.

They also forced him to abandon an attempt to unilaterally change Labour’s policy to outright opposition to war – an initiative which his aides had briefed to friendly newspapers as the meeting began. Mr Corbyn had put his faltering authority on the line over the issue. He also came under fire later yesterday at a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party and was seen making a hasty exit and looking ashen-faced.

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David Cameron, pictured in Paris today, made an urgent statement tonight on the timetable for Britain joining airstrikes in Syria after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was forced into a humiliating retreat on offering a free vote

Labour is left in the bizarre position of having no position on whether Britain should use military force against terrorist fanatics plotting to carry out atrocities in this country.

Mr Corbyn will speak out against air strikes when he responds to Mr Cameron’s proposals in the Commons – expected tomorrow – while shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn is expected to use the debate to speak in favour. A Labour source denied the party’s position was a shambles but admitted it was unusual for the front bench to make the case both for and against war.

A source said Mr Corbyn still had ‘full confidence’ in Mr Benn, but added: ‘Jeremy will be speaking for majority Labour Party opinion, he will be speaking on the basis of Party policy and he will be speaking as the leader of the Labour Party elected with a landslide.’

The row was the culmination of a dramatic 48 hours which had initially seen the Labour leader attempt to strong-arm his party’s most senior figures into backing his pacifist stance.

Mr Corbyn, former chairman of the Stop the War coalition, hit the airwaves over the weekend and insisted that his view would prevail, adding: ‘It’s the leader who decides.’

WHAT HAPPENS NOW? COUNTDOWN TO BRITAIN BOMBING ISIS IN SYRIA
Monday

Labour MPs given a free vote after dozens pushed to support airstrikes in Syria. Government ministers drawing up a motion for Commons to vote on. David Cameron makes a statement confirming the timing of the vote.

Tuesday

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon to make the case for bombing to MPs on defence select committee. MPs from all parties invited to security briefings on the need for intervention.

Wednesday

Debate and vote on airstrikes could be held straight after PMQs with Cameron making the case for military action. If MPs approve action at around 7pm, the first missiles could land in Syria within hours.

Thursday

David Cameron is in Bulgaria for talks on EU reform and a by-election is being held in Oldham West and Royton by-election, making it unlikely a debate and vote would be held today.

His ally Diane Abbott stepped up the rhetoric yesterday, saying that allowing Labour MPs a free vote would ‘hand victory to Cameron’.

She added: ‘The truth is we now know the party as a whole, in the country and even within the Parliamentary Labour Party, is opposed to these bombings and they are looking to Jeremy to show leadership.’

The leader’s office then released the results of an unscientific poll of party supporters, claiming it showed three-quarters were against the war. Labour claimed to have sampled 1,900 of almost 108,000 responses received by the party at the weekend, although it later emerged the figure may have been closer to 100.

Mr Corbyn’s controversial communications chief Seamas Milne briefed the Guardian newspaper that although Labour MPs would get a free vote, the party’s policy would be changed to make it clear that anyone voting for war would be in breach of the party’s official position.

Infuriated members of the shadow cabinet then staged a co-ordinated revolt which forced Mr Corbyn into total capitulation.

Chief whip Rosie Winterton warned it would be impossible to whip the vote because almost 100 MPs, including members of her own office, backed Mr Cameron on the need for military action against IS.

Several members of the shadow cabinet warned they ‘would not leave the room’ until Mr Corbyn had backed down. Mr Benn threatened to step down and make the case for strikes from the backbenches.

Shadow home secretary Andy Burnham, who is undecided on the case for air strikes, criticised Mr Corbyn’s ‘poor handling’ of the issue – and condemned his attempt to mobilise party members against MPs. Another senior figure accused Mr Corbyn of trying to organise a ‘witch hunt’ against MPs who support military action. One shadow cabinet minister said Mr Corbyn got a ‘thorough kicking’ in the two hour-long meeting saying: ‘It was unlike any shadow cabinet meeting we’ve had before’.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, Mr Corbyn’s closest ally, and Labour’s deputy leader Tom Watson both encouraged him to allow a free vote. Mr Corbyn’s climb down dismayed allies on the Left and provoked anger against moderate MPs.


Pete Willsman, a member of Labour’s ruling National Executive Committee, said: ‘Jeremy is so soft he wouldn’t say boo to a goose, he’s so good-natured. I would be much tougher with these people.’

There was further humiliation when Labour MPs laid into Mr Corbyn at a meeting of the PLP. One Labour grandee said later that there was a ‘ferocity’ about the meeting and that Mr Corbyn appeared ‘crouched’.

Labour grandee Margaret Beckett confronted him over his appeal to members saying: ‘You cannot unite the party if the leaders’ office is determined to divide us.’ Jack Dromey said Labour could not ‘look mealy-mouthed on national security’.

THE BRIMSTONE MISSILE: BRITAIN'S DEADLY WEAPON IS AIMED AT ISIS
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The £100,000 missile, which was developed in Britain, first came into service in 2005 and is used by the RAF.

The laser-guided Brimstone missile, which can hit a small, fast-moving target, could be used by RAF pilots to assassinate IS leaders one by one.

Britain and Saudi Arabia are currently the only two countries in the world to have invested in Brimstones.

The British-designed missile destroys its target with a contained explosion that generates relatively little debris.

It is far more sophisticated than the Americans' Hellfire weapons, which generate a large and deadly field of shrapnel when they explode.

The £100,000 Brimstone – which was used against Colonel Gaddafi's regime in Libya in 2011 – can be fired from a Tornado GR4 at 20,000ft and is capable of hitting vehicles travelling at up to 70mph.

It can be launched from a plane which is flying up to seven miles away from its target.

Each missile has a small but highly focused explosive warhead – which reduces the chance of shrapnel hitting civilians – as well as an adjustable fuse which allows the pilot to decide exactly when it will explode.

The RAF would use the state-of-the-art weaponry to take out particular targets on a British 'kill list' in Syria should MPs vote in favour of extending the mission this week.

It is understood that Tornado planes would concentrate on hitting the 'upper tier' of IS leadership structure in their stronghold.

IS command posts and training camps will also be identified as key targets for any British aircraft operating over Syria, according to Defence Secretary Michael Fallon.

The missile's dual-mode guidance system – with a laser designator and a sophisticated radar – makes it the ideal weapon for destroying IS fanatics driving on motorbikes or on gun trucks.

It also makes the RAF a formidable force in the IS stronghold of Raqqa, where other coalition nations have struggled to take out targets for fear of civilian

It is said to be especially good at targeting tanks and other heavy weaponry and uses a 'highly focused' explosive warhead to reduce shrapnel. This in turn can reduce the number of casualties.


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This is the moment the Brimstone is about to hit a car moving through the desert at more than 70mph

Sources close to the Prime Minister say he has been 'enraged' by senior ISIS figures being able to hide in Syria and 'wants to take them out'.

He told RAF commanders: 'We've got to go out and kill the bastards,' according to the Sunday Times.

The Indpendent newspaper quoted British Ministry of Defense source saying Britain is considering deploying Eurofighter Typhoons to Al Dhafra airbase, in the United Arab Emirates, on a long term basis for use against ISIS and to maintain mutual interest with GCC [Gulf] partners in ensuring peace and stability in the region.


Britain launched 17 deadly attacks in Iraq in the ten days since the Paris terror attacks, it emerged last week.

Seven of the raids came in the past three days in a clear escalation of force used since 130 people were killed by three teams of jihadis in the French capital on Friday, November 13.

In one extraordinary show of force one Tornado used a laser-guided Paveway bomb to kill 30 ISIS fighters massing for an attack against Kurdish forces. So far no British jets have been shot down.


Over the weekend Labour MPs have received thousands of emails from Stop the War and the hardleft Corbyn-supporting Momentum group.

The bombardment, coupled with abuse on Facebook and Twitter, is thought to have pressured some undecided MPs to agree to oppose military action.

One shadow cabinet minister told MailOnline: 'The bullying and intimidation they unleashed from Thursday onwards will have had an impact on some colleagues.

It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course
Jeremy Corbyn on Sunday
'It is also very hard to reconcile demanding a three-line whip with the new politics of debate, discussion, respect and a kinder way of doing politics.

'The last four days have blown a massive hole in that pretence.'


In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing.


A survey ordered by Mr Corbyn received 107,875 responses, of which 64,771 were confirmed as full individual Labour Party members.

An initial analysis of 1,900 responses showed 75 per cent opposed to bombing, 13 per cent in favour of the air strikes and 11 per cent undecided.

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Bizarrely, Mr Corbyn will open the debate for Labour, making the case against airstrikes, while his shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn will close it - despite being in favour of military action.

Over the weekend Labour MPs have received thousands of emails from Stop the War and the hardleft Corbyn-supporting Momentum group.

The bombardment, coupled with abuse on Facebook and Twitter, is thought to have pressured some undecided MPs to agree to oppose military action.

One shadow cabinet minister told MailOnline: 'The bullying and intimidation they unleashed from Thursday onwards will have had an impact on some colleagues.

It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course
Jeremy Corbyn on Sunday
'It is also very hard to reconcile demanding a three-line whip with the new politics of debate, discussion, respect and a kinder way of doing politics.

'The last four days have blown a massive hole in that pretence.'

In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing. lol


A survey ordered by Mr Corbyn received 107,875 responses, of which 64,771 were confirmed as full individual Labour Party members.

RED LEN: MPS PLOTTING TO OUST CORBYN ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE

Unite boss Len McCluskey accused rebels of a 'sickening' attempt to remove Mr Corbyn

Senior Labour MPs plotting to oust Jeremy Corbyn are 'playing with fire', Unite union boss Len McCluskey has warned.

He said the issue was being used as the 'thin edge to stage a coup' - and insisted his union would fight 'all the way' to prevent the tactic working.

In an article for Huffington Post, Mr McCluskey - who endorsed Mr Corbyn's bid for the leadership but has since criticised his performance - made clear that he thought David Cameron's plan to extend airstrikes from Iraq to Syria was 'illegal and irrational'.

He pointed out Mr Corbyn had an 'overwhelming' mandate from 60 per cent of Labour Party supporters.'

In a stark warning to Labour MPs plotting against the leader, Mr McCluskey added: 'They are playing with fire. Any attempt to force Labour's leader out through a Westminster Palace-coup will be resisted all the way by Unite and, I believe, most party members and affiliated unions.'

'He has been denounced for writing to MPs and party members making his views on Syria clear - as if his huge mandate, which included support for his long-standing anti-war record, had simply earned him the right to be seen but not heard,' Mr McCluskey said.

An initial analysis of 1,900 responses showed 75 per cent opposed to bombing, 13 per cent in favour of the air strikes and 11 per cent undecided.

Until today Mr Corbyn had three options: decide that the party whip - or order - all MPs to oppose strikes; he could let the shadow cabinet decide on whipping or he could give MPs a free vote.

Just yesterday he ruled out a free vote and sought to stamp his authority on the party, insisting: 'It's the leader who decides. I'll make up my mind in due course.'

However, official Labour party rules state that decisions on whipping are made by the shadow cabinet not the leader.


Section R3 of the standing orders of the PLP, which governs Commons votes, says: 'While the party recognises the right of members to abstain from voting in the House on matters of deeply held personal conviction, any such personal intention shall be intimated in advance and as soon as possible to the Chief Whip.

'This does not entitle members to vote contrary to a decision of the Cabinet/Shadow Cabinet,' PoliticsHome reported.

Another frontbencher told MailOnline before today's meeting: 'I know this might seem difficult to believe but I think there is an element of chaos and confusion around the leader and his office.

'The leader doesn't decide the whipping arrangements, the shadow cabinet do. We will have a row about this.'

To add to the sense of confusion, just hours before the decision to offer a free vote was announced Ms Abbott went on the radio to insist all Labour MPs should be whipped.

The shadow international development secretary insisted decisions on 'matters of peace and war' should be made by the leader.

She added: 'It's a matter for the leader what the whipping will be, but we are a party of government and a party of government has to have a position on matters of peace and war.

'The problem about a free vote is it hands victory to Cameron over these air strikes, it hands victory to him on a plate. I don't think that's what party members want to see.'

Ms Abbott told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'Party members and, increasingly, the country, want to see us oppose these air strikes - which are not the solution - with every sinew of our being, and that would mean a three-line whip.'

Dozens of Labour MPs are thought to support air strikes, including a majority of the shadow cabinet, and imposing a whip could trigger a wave of resignations.

Ms Abbott said: 'Jeremy does not want to have either sackings or resignations, none of us want to lose valued colleagues.

'However, I think the party and increasingly the public would be disappointed if we didn't oppose these air strikes to the limits of our ability.'






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In an attempt to bolster Mr Corbyn's position, Labour released the results of a survey of 1,900 party members which showed 75 per cent are opposed to Britain launching airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, putting them at odds with the wider public where 60 per cent are in favour of bombing

WHAT A MESS: HOW CORBYN & CO. CHANGED THEIR TUNE ON VOTE

As a low profile backbencher, Jeremy Corbyn rebelled against the Labour line more than 500 times and called for a free vote on military action.

As leader he insisted that was not an option and he was in charge, with ally Diane Abbott warning just this morning that a free vote would 'hand victory' to David Cameron.

But all that changed at today's shadow cabinet meeting. Here is how Mr Corbyn and his allies have changed their minds:

  • Jeremy Corbyn, 13 June 2013: 'On something so fundamental as the deployment of armed forces, a free vote is the right thing to do.'
  • John McDonnell, Sept 29: 'I am hoping on the Syria thing it should be a free vote on the basis of conscience.'
  • Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 16: 'I don't think a free vote is something that we are offering.'
  • Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 29: 'It's the leader who decides.'
  • Diane Abbott, Nov 30, 7.50am: 'The problem about a free vote is it hands victory to Cameron of these air strikes, it hands victory to him on a plate.'
  • Labour sources, Nov 30, 2pm: Labour will offer a free vote.
  • Spokesman for Jeremy Corbyn, Nov 30, 4.30pm: 'Today's Shadow Cabinet agreed to back Jeremy Corbyn's recommendation of a free vote on the Government's proposal to authorise UK bombing in Syria.'


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Very welcome but unless it is a huge increase in numbers (not 2-4 jets but 20+) then I will remain skeptical.
 
A few typhoons won’t cut it. We contributed to the mess that is Syria, I don’t think we can make things better. I will suggest staying away.
 
send the SAS to do covert operations in Syria if they aren't already.


guarantee dozens of IS rats will be dead every day if not more.

The SAS and U.S special forces(Delta force) have been officially in Iraq for a while now(they are often the ones directing precise/targeted RAF strikes against ISIS in Iraq reason we have killed hundreds of ISIS fighter in Iraq with ZERO civilian casualties(unlike other countries), while in Syria they are also present but covertly/secretly since our parliament hasn't approved our intervention in Syria as of now, so they will keep doing their thing in secret/low profile in Syria until the green light is given. After that expect much more daring operations by the SAS.:smokin:

Inside the only SAS and Delta Force raid on an ISIS leader | Daily Mail Online
 
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send the SAS to do covert operations in Syria if they aren't already.


guarantee dozens of IS rats will be dead every day if not more.

Our boys and yours are already in Syria and Iraq working together bro. The world's 2 best/leading special forces working together - a deadly combination for ISIS.:chilli:

SAS and US special forces forming hunter killer unit to 'smash Islamic State' - Mirror Online
British SAS given free rein in the fight against Isis in Syria

Anyone mention the SAS? As tough as they come! It's just a pity they don't come with those traditional moustaches.

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Those were the good old days bro.:D
 
Actually they seem to have a different game plan...... whenever Britain enters a war, trust you me, it's never for 'good' intentions, rather for some mischief........... this time around it seems to be to prod Turkey and offer it as a sacrifice......... two birds, one stone.

Brimstones away!!!!! Take the war to these filth.
 
Actually they seem to have a different game plan...... whenever Britain enters a war, trust you me, it's never for 'good' intentions, rather for some mischief........... this time around it seems to be to prod Turkey and offer it as a sacrifice......... two birds, one stone.

ahahahahahhaha.........LMAO.:lol: To think that you are a 'think tank/analyst'. :rofl:
 
Very welcome but unless it is a huge increase in numbers (not 2-4 jets but 20+) then I will remain skeptical.

The RAF’s fleet of aircraft stationed in Cyprus will double if David Cameron’s proposals are approved, and the Daily Mail reports that two extra Tornado fighter jets and six Typhoons equipped with laser-guided missiles will make up the numbers.

Syria air strikes: Extra RAF planes to be sent to base as UK prepares for war against Isis | UK Politics | News | The Independent

@waz @mike2000 is back
 
Did you have a nice laugh, mate? :-)

Dude creeps me out too. ;p

send the SAS to do covert operations in Syria if they aren't already.


guarantee dozens of IS rats will be dead every day if not more.

Such a waste of money. Rats are easy to replace. Cut the Saudi/Salafi funding and the rats will starve to death!
 
A few typhoons won’t cut it. We contributed to the mess that is Syria, I don’t think we can make things better. I will suggest staying away.

Agreed. If this is about showing support to ally ( France ) fine but if few Typhoons are going to address the issue I am afraid we are badly mistaken. I said it before. Don't go in to stir the hornets nest but if you do go in - go in with full heart, massive firepower and be ready to invest few decades.

Have NATO take total control of Syria. Do "Grozny" all the way and be prepared to loose men. After wiping out any form of opposition rebuild from scratch as a modern secular republic. Have open trade agreement to spur on the economy. Four or five decades down the road integrate it into EU. At worse we would have another "Greece" on the Med.

If you are not going to do this I feel it becomes just a show and will achieve nothing. You have next door Iraq as prime example.

Cut the Saudi/Salafi funding and the rats

Very true. That is the most effective weapon available.
 
The RAF’s fleet of aircraft stationed in Cyprus will double if David Cameron’s proposals are approved, and the Daily Mail reports that two extra Tornado fighter jets and six Typhoons equipped with laser-guided missiles will make up the numbers.

Syria air strikes: Extra RAF planes to be sent to base as UK prepares for war against Isis | UK Politics | News | The Independent

@waz @mike2000 is back

Yes bro.:) MOD has already confirmed this.

Britain prepares for war: RAF sends more of its Tornado fleet within striking distance of Syria ahead of ISIS airstrikes vote
  • Tornado fleet seen taking off from RAF Marham in Norfolk today carrying deadly bombs on board
  • Defence chiefs are sending more planes to Britain's Cyprus airbase so they can strike ISIS in Syria when needed
  • Warplanes seen swooping through the Mach Loop in Snowdon used by the RAF for vital low-level flight training
  • Squadron of Typhoons at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland are also on standby ahead of tomorrow's vote
  • See more of the latest news updates on Britain's airstrikes against ISIS in Syria
By MARTIN ROBINSON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:17, 1 December 2015 | UPDATED: 20:13, 1 December 2015


Britain's Tornado fleet was sent within striking distance of ISIS in Syria today as the RAF moved more of its jets towards the warzone ahead of tomorrow's Commons vote.

The jets took off from RAF Marham in Norfolk this morning as it emerged defence chiefs will double its fleet of aircraft stationed in Cyprus if MPs vote in favour of air strikes tomorrow.

Marham is home to the RAF’s main Tornado force and is likely to take the fight to ISIS in Syria - while Typhoons at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland are also on standby.

Warplanes loaded with bombs were seen taking off from the Norfolk air base this morning and later weaved through the Mach Loop in Snowdonia - a series of north Wales valleys where the RAF practices low-level flying crucial for strikes in enemy territory.

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Preparing for battle: Typhoon jets were seen taking off from RAF Marham in Norfolk today ahead of the crucial vote on bombing Syria

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Increase: Defence chiefs will double its Tornado fleet of aircraft stationed in Cyprus if MPs vote in favour of air strikes tomorrow

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Tests: The jets are believed to have flown across the country to the Mach Loop in Snowdonia, where the RAF practices low-level flying

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Armed: The warplanes were all loaded with missiles and bombs - currently being used to bomb ISIS targets in Iraq

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Cache: The RAF is planning to double the number of Tornado warplanes and send more missiles to RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, putting Syria within striking distance

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Sophisticated: Britain's army of drones have killed ISIS terrorists - steered by remote-control from an RAF base in Lincolnshire

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Destroyed: A camera on the British Typhoon captures the moment the missile destroys the ISIS sniper and the building he was firing from last week - one of 17 strikes in ten days after the Paris massacre

RAF pilots WILL carry guns in case they are shot down by ISIS over Syria and need to defend themselves in a shoot-out on the ground

RAF pilots asked to bomb ISIS in Syria would carry handguns to defend themselves on the ground, MailOnline can reveal today.

Britain will give sidearms to those firing on targets in 'hostile territory' after a Russian pilot was apparently killed by rebels after bailing out last week.

Russia is issuing its warplane pilots on missions over Syria with pistols and Kalashnikov machine guns after Turkey shot down a u-24 bomber.

British pilots do not always carry weapons but will if MPs vote for new bombing raids in Syria on Wednesday, an RAF source said.

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Protection: RAF pilots, pictured at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus ahead of a bombing raid on ISIS in Iraq, will be carrying handguns if airstrikes are launched over Syria


The Ministry of Defence said it never comments on operations but an RAF source told MailOnline: 'The decision on whether RAF pilots will carry handguns is taken on a case by case basis.

'But in previous conflicts where the RAF has been flying over hostile territory pilots are asked to wear conflict survival jackets, which contain sidearms'.

Some pilots have been told to carry a sidearm over Iraq and this will be extended to Syria in all cases, a source said.


It came as Russia is issuing its warplane pilots on missions over Syria with pistols and Kalashnikov machine guns in case they are forced to eject and defend themselves on the ground.

Britain will not be issuing machineguns, just the usual Glock or Browning pistol RAF pilots are trained to use.

During the Iraq War John Nichol and John Peters were shot down and were subject to beatings, mock executions and being paraded on TV. The pair were finally released after seven weeks.


But the pilots of today are unlikely to survive if they fell into the hands of the terrorists so will require guns to defend their lives.

Speaking last year Mr Nichol said: 'Today’s generation of young men and women prepare to take to the skies in anger (face) the terrible prospect of capture after being shot down must be at the forefront of their thoughts.

'But this time it is even more chilling — for the brutal, public murder of ISIS hostages by beheading is well understood by all involved.

'These are highly trained professionals, however, and any concerns in their minds will be pushed aside. It may sound inane to outsiders, but fears for one’s own fate are daily realities for modern military people. They know the risks, they understand the dangers'.

David Cameron has pledged to wipe out the entire ISIS leadership if MPs back bombing in Syria and has told the RAF: 'We have got to kill the b*****ds'.

The Prime Minister will 'decapitate' the 'snake's head' of ISIS and will also target names on the UK's high-profile 'kill list' of Britons fighting in the war-torn country.

A vote on new airstrikes in Syria could be as early as Wednesday and if MPs agree the bombing could begin that night.

In order to force it through MPs are being offered an intelligence briefing and 'tea and biscuits' by the Tories to encourage them to pack the Prime Minister, a senior Labour source told MailOnline.

Britain is the only major power to have the deadly Brimstone missile - a £100,000-a-shot super-weapon that kills targets without hurting civilians in 99 per cent of cases.

Sources close to the Prime Minister say he has been 'enraged' by senior ISIS figures being able to hide in Syria and 'wants to take them out'.

He told RAF commanders: 'We've got to go out and kill the bastards,' according to the Sunday Times.


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Its true it does comes with risks as well. Reason we should show some respect to all our forces who put their lives on the line to protect our country and further our interests globally. :police::cheers:
 
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