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LAHORE: Finance Minister Ishaq Dar on Wednesday announced that the government was ready to resume meaningful dialogue with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) unconditionally over the latter’s longstanding demand of conducting an independent inquiry of the general elections of 2013.

While addressing a press briefing at 90 Shahrah-e-Quaid-e-Azam in Lahore, Dar said that the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leadership, including Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, had given him a go-ahead to resume talks with PTI.

“We are putting no condition on resuming dialogue with PTI, but we expect that being patriotic Pakistanis they [PTI] cancel their plan to close Karachi on Friday. Dialogue will continue but closure of county’s major cities shouldn’t happen,” Dar said.

“Without compromising on principles, negotiations should be conducted within the framework of the Constitution.”

The finance minister, while welcoming PTI’s decision to resume talks, noted that there was no impediment in talks since Imran Khan had backed-off from the unconstitutional and illegal demand of PM stepping down or going on a month long leave. He added that the PTI had been told in the very first round of talks that the demand of PM’s resignation was non-negotiable.

Dar added that Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal will accompany him during talks with PTI.

Clarifying that there was no precondition from the government to resuming talks, the finance minister ‘requested’ PTI chief Imran to call off his shut-down protests in Karachi and Lahore.

While reiterating that no unconstitutional or illegal demand should be made from either side, Dar said that it was the Judicial Commission’s prerogative to ask for help from anyone, whether they are intelligence officials or journalists.

“JC judges will be the judges of apex courts. They are pride of this country and whatever decision they will take will be acceptable to us,” he added.

Dar appreciated the efforts of Political Jirga spearheaded by Jamaat-e-Islami’s Sirajul Haq and Pakistan Peoples Party’s Rehman Malik, but said that it was PML-N’s initiative to restart unconditional dialogue with PTI.

“They [political jirga] did not play any role in this,” he said, adding that the government will take political parties into confidence on the dialogue.

“We had never ended the dialogue yet we are ready to start it. Many international organisations have said that the elections in 2013 were transparent and fair than the previous elections.”

Dar added that he was trying to contact the PTI leadership to resume talks as soon as possible.

Regarding the PTI chairman’s statement that his party will not come back to the assemblies if the commission says there was no rigging in the 2013 elections, Dar said PTI leader Shah Mehmood Qureshi had clarified that there was a misunderstanding.

“Shah Mehmood has given me a clarification that Imran has been misquoted and there has been a misunderstanding,” he said.

He added that as far as electoral reforms were concerned, a parliamentary committee was already working on it.
Govt ready for unconditional, meaningful dialogue with PTI: Ishaq Dar – The Express Tribune

OK, my flight was delayed at the airport so I GOT to share this important update with my fellow PDF members :). I guess now there won't be any Lahore or Karachi 'lockdown' by IK, thank God, while I am in Pakistan :D PLAN C WORKED AS EXPECTED. NO NEED FOR MORE PLANS :)

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They are not. People who can kill citizens instead of opening investigation into polls are guilty to their throat.There is simply no other solution than to have early elections under caretaker govt. Military on the other hand is losing patience as they have a limit to how much people can be allowed to get murdered by Nawaz Sharif.
 
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LAHORE: Finance Minister Ishaq Dar on Wednesday announced that the government was ready to resume meaningful dialogue with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) unconditionally over the latter’s longstanding demand of conducting an independent inquiry of the general elections of 2013.

While addressing a press briefing at 90 Shahrah-e-Quaid-e-Azam in Lahore, Dar said that the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leadership, including Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, had given him a go-ahead to resume talks with PTI.

“We are putting no condition on resuming dialogue with PTI, but we expect that being patriotic Pakistanis they [PTI] cancel their plan to close Karachi on Friday. Dialogue will continue but closure of county’s major cities shouldn’t happen,” Dar said.

“Without compromising on principles, negotiations should be conducted within the framework of the Constitution.”

The finance minister, while welcoming PTI’s decision to resume talks, noted that there was no impediment in talks since Imran Khan had backed-off from the unconstitutional and illegal demand of PM stepping down or going on a month long leave. He added that the PTI had been told in the very first round of talks that the demand of PM’s resignation was non-negotiable.

Dar added that Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal will accompany him during talks with PTI.

Clarifying that there was no precondition from the government to resuming talks, the finance minister ‘requested’ PTI chief Imran to call off his shut-down protests in Karachi and Lahore.

While reiterating that no unconstitutional or illegal demand should be made from either side, Dar said that it was the Judicial Commission’s prerogative to ask for help from anyone, whether they are intelligence officials or journalists.

“JC judges will be the judges of apex courts. They are pride of this country and whatever decision they will take will be acceptable to us,” he added.

Dar appreciated the efforts of Political Jirga spearheaded by Jamaat-e-Islami’s Sirajul Haq and Pakistan Peoples Party’s Rehman Malik, but said that it was PML-N’s initiative to restart unconditional dialogue with PTI.

“They [political jirga] did not play any role in this,” he said, adding that the government will take political parties into confidence on the dialogue.

“We had never ended the dialogue yet we are ready to start it. Many international organisations have said that the elections in 2013 were transparent and fair than the previous elections.”

Dar added that he was trying to contact the PTI leadership to resume talks as soon as possible.

Regarding the PTI chairman’s statement that his party will not come back to the assemblies if the commission says there was no rigging in the 2013 elections, Dar said PTI leader Shah Mehmood Qureshi had clarified that there was a misunderstanding.

“Shah Mehmood has given me a clarification that Imran has been misquoted and there has been a misunderstanding,” he said.

He added that as far as electoral reforms were concerned, a parliamentary committee was already working on it.
Govt ready for unconditional, meaningful dialogue with PTI: Ishaq Dar – The Express Tribune

OK, my flight was delayed at the airport so I GOT to share this important update with my fellow PDF members :). I guess now there won't be any Lahore or Karachi 'lockdown' by IK, thank God, while I am in Pakistan :D PLAN C WORKED AS EXPECTED. NO NEED FOR MORE PLANS :)

@A.Rafay @Ahmad1996 @airmarshal @Akheilos @Armstrong @arushbhai @AstanoshKhan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @balixd @batmannow @Bilal. @chauvunist @Crypto @Dr. Stranglove @Evil Flare @EyanKhan @Fahad Khan 2 @GIANTsasquatch @graphican @Green Arrow @Guleen Ahmed @HRK @Jazzbot @Junaid B @Jzaib @Khalidr @khawaja07 @Leader @Luftwaffe @Marshmallow @mr42O @Muhammad Omar @nomi007 @Pak123 @Pakistani shaheens @Pakistanisage @Peaceful Civilian @pkuser2k12 @Pukhtoon @PWFI @raazh @Rafael @Rashid Mahmood @RescueRanger @Saifkhan12 @Sedqal @SHAMK9 @Spy Master @Stealth @Strike X @SUPARCO @sur @syedali73 @Tameem @Tayyab1796 @Zarvan @waleed3601 @AdeelFaheem @Rajput_Pakistani @Men in Green @orakzai4u @IceCold @LoveIcon @razahassan1997 @Cheetah786 @Dil Pakistan @asq @junaid hamza @Pukhtoon @jamahir @Strigon @Rafi @Ulla @HughSlaman @420canada @sathya @slapshot @raza_888 @TankMan
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Took them a while ...Wonder what they have cooking up their sleeves :unsure:
 
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They are not. People who can kill citizens instead of opening investigation into polls are guilty to their throat.There is simply no other solution than to have early elections under caretaker govt. Military on the other hand is losing patience as they have a limit to how much people can be allowed to get murdered by Nawaz Sharif.

SIR, OUR MILITARY itself is the biggest murderer of all. Remember the massacre it did against East Pakistanis during Operation Searchlight?
1971 Dhaka University massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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While it may seem that lockdown has worked against IK, it really has worked in his favor in different ways.

First we know that NS and his goons always, ALWAYS make bad decisions in tense situations (like the pti supporter killed by a bodyguard) causing public outcry and a growing sense of hostility against PMLN

Secondly random events like the cornered tigress and her climb to fame giving people inspiration.

Third it def. would have effected the recount judgement.

One thing about noora league, once pressure is off them they go back to sleep. I think IK should go ahead with further lockdowns and plans until justice is done.

However, I dont know how IK is trusting the recount process. Must have a top ranking offical from PTI witness the process.
 
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Same News with another perspective on Dawn:

LAHORE/ISLAMABAD: Following an advisory meeting in the wake of shut down calls by Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Wednesday extended an unconditional offer to the former for resumption of dialogue, DawnNews reported.

Speaking at a press conference in Lahore, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, who has been assigned by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to resume talks with PTI, said that his party will leave power if the decision by the judicial commission on alleged poll rigging comes against it.

He added that both parties would have to accept the judicial commission’s decision on the matter. Dar, therefore, urged Imran Khan to postpone his scheduled protests till a decision is arrived.

The federal minister conceded that dialogue process was neither disrupted by the government nor was it broken by Tehreek-i-Insaf. It may be mentioned that both parties had been accusing each other for disrupting the talks initiated in August.

Dar said that the government would try to hold first session of dialogue on Thursday, demanding Imran Khan to not make any ‘unconstitutional’ decision till then.

Expressing concerns on including officials of intelligence agencies in the judicial commission formed to probe into the allegations, the finance minister said the government, however, would not object to it if the commission itself invites them.

Commenting on the recently formed parliamentary committee on electoral reforms, he said the committee was on track and had held 16 meetings on the matter since its inception a couple of months ago.

Imran ready to call off ‘plan C’

Reciprocating the government offer, PTI Chairman Imran Khan said that he will call off his ‘plan C’ if government is ready to set up a judicial commission before the PTI’s call to shutdown Karachi on December 12.

“The judicial commission can be set up within 24 hours and if the government is serious in talks then it should announce to set up judicial commission before our scheduled protest in Karachi,” he said while addressing participants of his ongoing sit-in at D-Chowk in Islamabad.

Khan, however, added that the Islamabad sit-in will continue until the decision of the commission.

“We will not ask anyone to shut down their businesses or shops in Karachi on Dec 12 as I don’t want to harm economy of the country,” the PTI chief promised.

“Ishaq Dar is demanding that we should call off this sit-in… I want to tell you [Dar] that the nation has already acknowledged their due rights through this sit-in,” he said. “The PML-N leadership has already realised that we will not call off this sit-in until getting our right,” Khan claimed.

He also offered leadership of Awami National Party (ANP) – PTI’s political opponents in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa – that he was ready to open ballet boxes for recounting votes in any constituency of the province.

PM assigns Dar to resume dialogue

Earlier in the day, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif assigned Finance Minister Dar to resume dialogue with the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf.

The decision was taken at a high-level advisory meeting held at the PM House, which was attended by Information Minister Pervaiz Rashid, Petroleum Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, Railways Minister Khawaja Saad Rafique, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Safron Minister Abdul Qadir Baloch, Governor KP Sardar Mehtab and Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif among others.

The meeting was held to discuss prevailing political atmosphere amid protests and shut down calls by the Imran Khan led PTI.

Prime Minister Sharif wanted the dialogue with the PTI to be resumed at earliest. The government would also ask the PTI to call off their 'plan C' to shut down cities and subsequently the country in coming weeks.

End protest for resumption of dialogue: Rashid

Earlier today, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Pervaiz Rashid said that the government was willing to resume dialogue with PTI but for that Imran Khan would have to return to his container and call off his party's protests in different parts of the country, Radio Pakistan reported.

Rashid was speaking to reporters in the federal capital and said that the dialogue was discontinued on the direction of the PTI chief and the other way around.

Imran Khan should abandon his plan of closing different cities and come on the previous stage to provide a conducive environment for dialogue, the federal minister said.

A judicial commission would also be constituted and would start functioning as soon as there is a conducive environment for it, Rashid said in response to a question, adding that the decisions of the commission will be accepted and not criticised.

– Irfan Haider contributed to the reporting from Islamabad
Govt extends ‘unconditional’ dialogue offer to PTI - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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So, what is IK going to fight next on? :D

Fight politically all liers, cheaters and thieves. Time has shown that intimidation has not worked, IK has kept his cool even after killings done by you know who. So IK keep up the good work.

He will bring all those to justice and have judiciary try them by the facts presented and if convicted be jailed.
 
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Fight politically all liers, cheaters and thieves. Time has shown that intimidation has not worked, IK has kept his cool even after killings done by you know who. So IK keep up the good work.

He will bring all those to justice and have judiciary try them by the facts presented and if convicted be jailed.
And in the process...

ISLAMABAD: At a time when political turmoil has already caused a colossal economic loss, the cancellation of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit has dealt a severe blow to Pakistan’s economy, as he was bringing along a record investment of 34 billion dollars, largely in the energy sector.

The postponement of the visit is not only a huge embarrassment for Pakistan but has also raised serious questions about the intentions of protest leaders Imran Khan and Tahir-ul-Qadri. Pakistan has become a victim of its own politicians who are on a mission to destroy it economically.

A severe blow to Pakistan’s economy - thenews.com.pk
 
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SIR, OUR MILITARY itself is the biggest murderer of all. Remember the massacre it did against East Pakistanis during Operation Searchlight?
1971 Dhaka University massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry to inform you laddy, Killing is the 'job' of any Army.

SIR, OUR MILITARY itself is the biggest murderer of all. Remember the massacre it did against East Pakistanis during Operation Searchlight?
1971 Dhaka University massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry to inform you laddy, Killing is the 'job' of any Army.
 
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