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ISLAMABAD: The government has decided to induct highly qualified professionals of relevant fields in top positions into federal ministries, on the pattern of under secretaries in the United States, to improve efficiency and output of the government.

They would be officially called ‘technical advisers’ and paid according to market conditions in the private sector for a fixed term. They would be placed above the federal secretaries and below the ministers in terms of policy advice and expert opinion.

They would be hired in Management Pay (MP) scale or Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS), but practically would be grade-23 officers, since a federal secretary had grade-22, an official said.

“This will be a replica of the US administration where presidents bring in their own teams of technical experts of all fields to deliver on government visions and targets. And those experts remain in office mostly until the presidential term,” said a senior official.

He said those running the government believed that the existing lot of the senior bureaucracy was one of the key stumbling blocks to smooth functioning of the government.

Resistance expected
However, the proposals are likely to face resistance from within the bureaucracy as some of the top officers privately contest the need for hiring what they call “young super bureaucrats” and suggest there is no room for such positions under the existing legal scheme of things and rules of business.

When contacted, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Institutional Reforms and Austerity, Dr Ishrat Hussain, explained that the government had prioritised 15 federal ministries where ‘technical advisers’ would be placed in the first phase. He confirmed that these advisers would be above the secretaries and below the rank of federal ministers.

A number of cases and proposals come before the government from various quarters including through the federal secretaries, but get stuck and pass through the process without the quality input based on best market practices because the secretary is not necessarily an expert in the field. At the same time, ministers are seldom experts of the relevant field as they come through the political process. Therefore, the technical adviser will process proposals floated by the secretary or the line ministry to guide the minister and ultimately help the cabinet reach informed decisions.

Dr Hussain said the pay scales of management positions (MP-1) were being improved to attract quality experts. An MP-I adviser would now be getting more than Rs700,000 per month.

He said the government had already hired a technical adviser — a highly qualified professional — in the ministry of education through a competitive process and would soon follow suit in other 15 selective ministries.

A summary submitted to the prime minister by the Establishment Division has identified 15 ministers for “Creation of 15 Posts of Technical Advisors”. These ministries and divisions are: Science and Technology, Finance, Power, Petroleum, Water Resources, Commerce, Aviation, National Food Security, Industries and Production, Information Technology and Telecommunication, Climate Change, Maritime Affairs, Textile Industry and National Health Services, Regulation and Coordination.

“As these ministries/divisions lack the requisite technical expertise, therefore, their optimal performance is hampered,” the summary noted and argued that “as an immediate measure to boost their performance, there is a need to hire the services of requisite technical expertise on market based salaries” i.e. one each for these ministries “with the specific job to look after and supervise the affairs of technical wings of these ministries and divisions”.

The process of recruitment against the proposed posts of the advisers with post-wise specific terms of reference will be processed by respective administrative ministers in the light of the criteria for hiring of technical advisors on contract basis in consultation with the ministry of finance and management service wing of the Establishment division.

The Establishment division has reported to the prime minister that the Finance Division has already prepared Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS-I, II & III). Separately, the pay package of MP-I, II and III have also been upgraded. “Therefore, these technical experts can be hired from market” either on SPPS or MPS.

An official said the Finance Division had separately hired a group of qualified professionals for the Public Private Partnership Authority through a competitive selection process on SPPS with a monthly salary tag of Rs2.5 to Rs3 million.

He said a group of top officers were set to challenge the placement of technical adviser in the ministries and were, instead, proposing to create a pool of technical experts for independent expert opinion, instead of creating another tier in the hierarchy.

“This is a revolutionary idea but needs amendments to the rules of business. The technical adviser and secretary who also holds the position of principal accounting officer in each division would remain entangled in turf wars,” said a former federal secretary.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1516342

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Glad to see these steps being taken. IDK if this will be another case of "jobs for the boys" or not, we'll have to see the output of these ministries in due time.
 
Finally some positive strutrual changes. However, I highly doubt that any competent person could be hired from market at a meager salary of 700,000.

May be someone join for a greater cause otherwise CEOs of even small companies are getting above then 700K.
 
Shadows of Presidential System casting ...
That's a great great initiatives. Bs 2 logon ko lagam dalni hogi.
Harami siasatdanon ko
Harami bureaucrats ko.
Yeh log chalny nai daingy experts ko.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

Yaar frankly our whole f*in legal system and bureaucratic system is useless and decrepit, all this system was created in the 19th century to keep a populace subdued, slave to be exact, there is no room for thinking or innovation or keeping the general populace satisfied it is meant to kept them subdued.

One of the reason there is still the f** word "Awaam" in English "commoners" the other side is "lords" this whole system needs a huge purge and culling. There is one law for the rich and another for the poor, 10,000 poor are suffering from different disease but LaWhore/Min-Noora Courts can only give relief to one a***ole or the other rich ones.

While terrorist in the guise of police would kill parents in front of their children and get away with it. Its an effin useless law/bureaucratic system, I could simply send an email to HR and put the whole damn team on leave without pay if they are absent because I am in private sector, I could fire anyone who is in breach of the code of conduct not the same with these darn bureaucratic leeches a constant drain on the country, worthless incompetent scum.
 
@Mangus Ortus Novem

Yaar frankly our whole f*in legal system and bureaucratic system is useless and decrepit, all this system was created in the 19th century to keep a populace subdued, slave to be exact, there is no room for thinking or innovation or keeping the general populace satisfied it is meant to kept them subdued.

One of the reason there is still the f** word "Awaam" in English "commoners" the other side is "lords" this whole system needs a huge purge and culling. There is one law for the rich and another for the poor, 10,000 poor are suffering from different disease but LaWhore/Min-Noora Courts can only give relief to one a***ole or the other rich ones.

While terrorist in the guise of police would kill parents in front of their children and get away with it. Its an effin useless law/bureaucratic system, I could simply send an email to HR and put the whole damn team on leave without pay if they are absent because I am in private sector, I could fire anyone who is in breach of the code of conduct not the same with these darn bureaucratic leeches a constant drain on the country, worthless incompetent scum.
Such a frustrated response. lolz.. calm down bro. However, every word of your post is true to its core.

Coconut babuz are a Cancer to PakState and the mutation it took in the 90s has resulted in the almost collapse of PakState.

Pak has become SoftState because of this... political interference and then combined loot/plunder by both is epic.

Conconuts consider them superior race above ordinary Paks... a kinda of brahmins...and the rest untouchables.

We need to cut 50% bureaucracy and agument it with Artificial Intelligence and automation... furthermore, there needs to be performance based job security... clear KPIs managed by automated system. No more promotion boards... and we need to kill this DMG gang/maffia.

Same for FBR which is essential component of CriminalEnterprise.

We need to design the State from ground up... starting with new Performance Based Democratic System... because this MarasiUnitedFront aka political parties are nothing more than maffias headed by Dons... Noora/Ghardari/Fuzla/and the rest...
First we have to kill this CSS induction system. CSS is root cause of this corrupt bureaucracy
 
Such a frustrated response. lolz.. calm down bro. However, every word of your post is true to its core.


First we have to kill this CSS induction system. CSS is root cause of this corrupt bureaucracy
I heard, a CSS bureaucrat, who had a degree of MA in English said to another bureaucrat who was PhD in electronics : sir aapka proposal thek nai hai, layhaza ham funds nai dysakty..
 
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The whole system is corrupt, old, inefficient, weak and generalized. It needs complete overhauling. The whole bureaucracy needs to be hired on specialised qualifications rather than passing too generalized examination and on the other hand power needs to be delegated at root level to effectively run the machinery of government. When criterion to selecting a person in a system of government is too generalized, the system could not be hoped of going towards a positive direction.
 
They would be placed above the federal secretaries. Arent federal secretaries turd pieces?
 
ISLAMABAD: The government has decided to induct highly qualified professionals of relevant fields in top positions into federal ministries, on the pattern of under secretaries in the United States, to improve efficiency and output of the government.

They would be officially called ‘technical advisers’ and paid according to market conditions in the private sector for a fixed term. They would be placed above the federal secretaries and below the ministers in terms of policy advice and expert opinion.

They would be hired in Management Pay (MP) scale or Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS), but practically would be grade-23 officers, since a federal secretary had grade-22, an official said.

“This will be a replica of the US administration where presidents bring in their own teams of technical experts of all fields to deliver on government visions and targets. And those experts remain in office mostly until the presidential term,” said a senior official.

He said those running the government believed that the existing lot of the senior bureaucracy was one of the key stumbling blocks to smooth functioning of the government.

Resistance expected
However, the proposals are likely to face resistance from within the bureaucracy as some of the top officers privately contest the need for hiring what they call “young super bureaucrats” and suggest there is no room for such positions under the existing legal scheme of things and rules of business.

When contacted, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Institutional Reforms and Austerity, Dr Ishrat Hussain, explained that the government had prioritised 15 federal ministries where ‘technical advisers’ would be placed in the first phase. He confirmed that these advisers would be above the secretaries and below the rank of federal ministers.

A number of cases and proposals come before the government from various quarters including through the federal secretaries, but get stuck and pass through the process without the quality input based on best market practices because the secretary is not necessarily an expert in the field. At the same time, ministers are seldom experts of the relevant field as they come through the political process. Therefore, the technical adviser will process proposals floated by the secretary or the line ministry to guide the minister and ultimately help the cabinet reach informed decisions.

Dr Hussain said the pay scales of management positions (MP-1) were being improved to attract quality experts. An MP-I adviser would now be getting more than Rs700,000 per month.

He said the government had already hired a technical adviser — a highly qualified professional — in the ministry of education through a competitive process and would soon follow suit in other 15 selective ministries.

A summary submitted to the prime minister by the Establishment Division has identified 15 ministers for “Creation of 15 Posts of Technical Advisors”. These ministries and divisions are: Science and Technology, Finance, Power, Petroleum, Water Resources, Commerce, Aviation, National Food Security, Industries and Production, Information Technology and Telecommunication, Climate Change, Maritime Affairs, Textile Industry and National Health Services, Regulation and Coordination.

“As these ministries/divisions lack the requisite technical expertise, therefore, their optimal performance is hampered,” the summary noted and argued that “as an immediate measure to boost their performance, there is a need to hire the services of requisite technical expertise on market based salaries” i.e. one each for these ministries “with the specific job to look after and supervise the affairs of technical wings of these ministries and divisions”.

The process of recruitment against the proposed posts of the advisers with post-wise specific terms of reference will be processed by respective administrative ministers in the light of the criteria for hiring of technical advisors on contract basis in consultation with the ministry of finance and management service wing of the Establishment division.

The Establishment division has reported to the prime minister that the Finance Division has already prepared Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS-I, II & III). Separately, the pay package of MP-I, II and III have also been upgraded. “Therefore, these technical experts can be hired from market” either on SPPS or MPS.

An official said the Finance Division had separately hired a group of qualified professionals for the Public Private Partnership Authority through a competitive selection process on SPPS with a monthly salary tag of Rs2.5 to Rs3 million.

He said a group of top officers were set to challenge the placement of technical adviser in the ministries and were, instead, proposing to create a pool of technical experts for independent expert opinion, instead of creating another tier in the hierarchy.

“This is a revolutionary idea but needs amendments to the rules of business. The technical adviser and secretary who also holds the position of principal accounting officer in each division would remain entangled in turf wars,” said a former federal secretary.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1516342

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Glad to see these steps being taken. IDK if this will be another case of "jobs for the boys" or not, we'll have to see the output of these ministries in due time.
Pluck those of all feathers if they ruffle them
 
Finally some positive strutrual changes. However, I highly doubt that any competent person could be hired from market at a meager salary of 700,000.

May be someone join for a greater cause otherwise CEOs of even small companies are getting above then 700K.

700K , really?
@Mangus Ortus Novem

Yaar frankly our whole f*in legal system and bureaucratic system is useless and decrepit, all this system was created in the 19th century to keep a populace subdued, slave to be exact, there is no room for thinking or innovation or keeping the general populace satisfied it is meant to kept them subdued.

One of the reason there is still the f** word "Awaam" in English "commoners" the other side is "lords" this whole system needs a huge purge and culling. There is one law for the rich and another for the poor, 10,000 poor are suffering from different disease but LaWhore/Min-Noora Courts can only give relief to one a***ole or the other rich ones.

While terrorist in the guise of police would kill parents in front of their children and get away with it. Its an effin useless law/bureaucratic system, I could simply send an email to HR and put the whole damn team on leave without pay if they are absent because I am in private sector, I could fire anyone who is in breach of the code of conduct not the same with these darn bureaucratic leeches a constant drain on the country, worthless incompetent scum.

Exactly how I feel. The bureaucracy needs to be in front of a firing squad
 
ISLAMABAD: The government has decided to induct highly qualified professionals of relevant fields in top positions into federal ministries, on the pattern of under secretaries in the United States, to improve efficiency and output of the government.

They would be officially called ‘technical advisers’ and paid according to market conditions in the private sector for a fixed term. They would be placed above the federal secretaries and below the ministers in terms of policy advice and expert opinion.

They would be hired in Management Pay (MP) scale or Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS), but practically would be grade-23 officers, since a federal secretary had grade-22, an official said.

“This will be a replica of the US administration where presidents bring in their own teams of technical experts of all fields to deliver on government visions and targets. And those experts remain in office mostly until the presidential term,” said a senior official.

He said those running the government believed that the existing lot of the senior bureaucracy was one of the key stumbling blocks to smooth functioning of the government.

Resistance expected
However, the proposals are likely to face resistance from within the bureaucracy as some of the top officers privately contest the need for hiring what they call “young super bureaucrats” and suggest there is no room for such positions under the existing legal scheme of things and rules of business.

When contacted, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Institutional Reforms and Austerity, Dr Ishrat Hussain, explained that the government had prioritised 15 federal ministries where ‘technical advisers’ would be placed in the first phase. He confirmed that these advisers would be above the secretaries and below the rank of federal ministers.

A number of cases and proposals come before the government from various quarters including through the federal secretaries, but get stuck and pass through the process without the quality input based on best market practices because the secretary is not necessarily an expert in the field. At the same time, ministers are seldom experts of the relevant field as they come through the political process. Therefore, the technical adviser will process proposals floated by the secretary or the line ministry to guide the minister and ultimately help the cabinet reach informed decisions.

Dr Hussain said the pay scales of management positions (MP-1) were being improved to attract quality experts. An MP-I adviser would now be getting more than Rs700,000 per month.

He said the government had already hired a technical adviser — a highly qualified professional — in the ministry of education through a competitive process and would soon follow suit in other 15 selective ministries.

A summary submitted to the prime minister by the Establishment Division has identified 15 ministers for “Creation of 15 Posts of Technical Advisors”. These ministries and divisions are: Science and Technology, Finance, Power, Petroleum, Water Resources, Commerce, Aviation, National Food Security, Industries and Production, Information Technology and Telecommunication, Climate Change, Maritime Affairs, Textile Industry and National Health Services, Regulation and Coordination.

“As these ministries/divisions lack the requisite technical expertise, therefore, their optimal performance is hampered,” the summary noted and argued that “as an immediate measure to boost their performance, there is a need to hire the services of requisite technical expertise on market based salaries” i.e. one each for these ministries “with the specific job to look after and supervise the affairs of technical wings of these ministries and divisions”.

The process of recruitment against the proposed posts of the advisers with post-wise specific terms of reference will be processed by respective administrative ministers in the light of the criteria for hiring of technical advisors on contract basis in consultation with the ministry of finance and management service wing of the Establishment division.

The Establishment division has reported to the prime minister that the Finance Division has already prepared Special Professional Pay Scales (SPPS-I, II & III). Separately, the pay package of MP-I, II and III have also been upgraded. “Therefore, these technical experts can be hired from market” either on SPPS or MPS.

An official said the Finance Division had separately hired a group of qualified professionals for the Public Private Partnership Authority through a competitive selection process on SPPS with a monthly salary tag of Rs2.5 to Rs3 million.

He said a group of top officers were set to challenge the placement of technical adviser in the ministries and were, instead, proposing to create a pool of technical experts for independent expert opinion, instead of creating another tier in the hierarchy.

“This is a revolutionary idea but needs amendments to the rules of business. The technical adviser and secretary who also holds the position of principal accounting officer in each division would remain entangled in turf wars,” said a former federal secretary.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1516342

===========

Glad to see these steps being taken. IDK if this will be another case of "jobs for the boys" or not, we'll have to see the output of these ministries in due time.


gist---------- bringing every cat n rat from abroad? new colonial era ,new ways ,means, for slavery?
 
Yeah, because you lot back home have done such a great job so far. You're importing vegetables FFS.
You have to be joking, what the actual fu$k?!

gist---------- bringing every cat n rat from abroad? new colonial era ,new ways ,means, for slavery?
All because of thou incompetence. All yall do is complain while not doing any actual sh$t. Heck most of you lazy arses dont even work!!

This isnt directed to you specifically, it's for the whole nation.
 
Yeah, because you lot back home have done such a great job so far. You're importing vegetables FFS.
do u know how much vegi is imported in england?the problem is at top post not at bottom

look around ,,, pti, in 22 yrs, from 22 crore pakistani, havent even produced a single gem.........

what a fart of achievement.

You have to be joking, what the actual fu$k?!


All because of thou incompetence. All yall do it complain while not doing any actual sh$t. Heck most of you lazy arses dont even work!!

This isnt directed to you specifically, it's for the whole nation.

am glad u r in land of Huron.................the devil pays well?
 

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