Govt, opposition blast PTI as it returns to parliament

[khawaja07]

PTI isn't making any grounds in Karachi , its just trying its best to hide its political defeat by the criminals in the parliament , but right now PTI is using Karachi & the bye elections to not to answer the valid question from its voter that , why the hell he did that dharna in which many lives losted , when he was ready to go back into the sane parliament , the one he was protesting ?

While i totally disagree with the first half of your paragragh that PTI isn't making any grounds..its laughable at the very least and quite far fetched from reality considering the ground reality in which these elections are gonna be held there which is totally under the military in which case, MQM can't brute force it..however i sort of agree with the latter half that PTI shouldn't have returned to the parliament at this stage, it is a blunder by IK no matter what..They should've come back atleast after the JC gave its final decision..this is a harsh but necessary lesson for them, IK must expand his knowledge of politics more..

 

[batmannow]

Bro if they wouldn't have gone the same people would have been criticising that Yemen was important issue . They should have gone .

It's gud to see them isolated . The more mqm, anp, molana , PPP and pmln seem together . It's better for them . We are challenging mqm in Karachi , we took all vote bank of PPP in kpk , and Punjab .

Sure yeman issue is more important then lives of innocent school kids , because that's the reason he went to marry 2nd time ?
Pakistani nation & its innocent blood has no meanings for that confused selfish man at all ?
No one has blamed PTI if any decision would be taken by govt or GHQ ?
None of them needs any support from 30 member PTI ?
Pti just went in there to save itself been broken in million parts ?
Going into Senate elections was the deadly mistake PTI made , which made them weak & immoral as all if political parties in Pakistan ?

 

[TankMan]

The Defence Minister made a joke out of the parliament session. They were supposed to discuss Yemen in a serious manner, instead they focused on petty political point scoring. Shows their priorities.

On the other hand, PPP and Aitazaz Ahsan's approach was interesting - very mature and neutral. Makes sense since they'll be relying on PTI against MQM.

PTI did not make one bad decision - they made too many. The resignations were supposed to be an all-in tactic, instead they tried to use them as a half measure to bounce back when the judicial commission demand was accepted. Now that it was, PTI had no option; either be criticized for staying out of the assembly or be criticized for joining it again. They chose the latter, which is fair enough.

This is PTI's casualty in the proverbial battle - PMLN's was that they had to accept the judicial commission, among many others.

But MQM complaining about PTI is like a mass-murderer complaining that someone shouted at him. Especially when Altaf Hussain talks about the resignations while his own never last more than six hours.

 

[batmannow]

While i totally disagree with the first half of your paragragh that PTI isn't making any grounds..its laughable at the very least and quite far fetched from reality considering the ground reality in which these elections are gonna be held there which is totally under the military in which case, MQM can't brute force it..however i sort of agree with the latter half that PTI shouldn't have returned to the parliament at this stage, it is a blunder by IK no matter what..They should've come back atleast after the JC gave its final decision..this is a harsh but necessary lesson for them, IK must expand his knowledge of politics more..

Sorry you can disagree with me thousand times but , by winning or missing in Karachi won't bring much impact on the broken image of PTI?
& again if you think that few rallies & hard hitting press conferences can win them a seat in 246 , sorry friend you are horribly wrong , most chances are PTI may get few votes but it will lose the election , & will lose its political existence on the national level ?
So for PTI , its the best that it should stay away from unexpreinced IMRAN,s political adventure & should join few ministries if noora king can zakat to them ?
That's where PTI belongs , rented horses never can win a battle ?

 

[khawaja07]

Sorry you can disagree with me thousand times but , by winning or missing in Karachi won't bring much impact on the broken image of PTI?
& again if you think that few rallies & hard hitting press conferences can win them a seat in 246 , sorry friend you are horribly wrong , most chances are PTI may get few votes but it will lose the election , & will lose its political existence on the national level ?
So for PTI , its the best that it should stay away from unexpreinced IMRAN,s political adventure & should join few ministries if noora king can zakat to them ?
That's where PTI belongs , rented horses never can win a battle ?

Hahaha don't agree with you on that again and if possible a thousand times sorry PTI was the 2nd best party to get votes in all over Pakistan in an institutionally rigged election, it had signs of it everywhere..even in Karachi where a PTI candidate got 30k votes in a feared constituency of MQM's Ghundas who took votes of other people at gunpoint and serves death threats to voters.. PTI still has a bright future ahead of them..

 

[batmannow]

The Defence Minister made a joke out of the parliament session. They were supposed to discuss Yemen in a serious manner, instead they focused on petty political point scoring. Shows their priorities.

On the other hand, PPP and Aitazaz Ahsan's approach was interesting - very mature and neutral. Makes sense since they'll be relying on PTI against MQM.

PTI did not make one bad decision - they made too many. The resignations were supposed to be an all-in tactic, instead they tried to use them as a half measure to bounce back when the judicial commission demand was accepted. Now that it was, PTI had no option; either be criticized for staying out of the assembly or be criticized for joining it again. They chose the latter, which is fair enough.

This is PTI's casualty in the proverbial battle - PMLN's was that they had to accept the judicial commission, among many others.

But MQM complaining about PTI is like a mass-murderer complaining that someone shouted at him. Especially when Altaf Hussain talks about the resignations while his own never last more than six hours.

Parlimentry politics is all about , choking the neck at the right time ?
By going against the resignation of PTI member s is the parlimentry , & moral right of every political party sitting in the house ?
If not MQM, I guess to many can do the same , but right now PTI & its existence in the parliament & its puposed judicial commission all will be challenged in the courts ?
What you think , who is behind yes the great NOORA KING ?
he won't let PTI , the only living danger live long in punjab , surly he is going to wipe it out every way he can , cause PTI has been defeated .

 

[OTTOMAN]

Good show.... to make fool out of people.
Reality...

 

[batmannow]

Hahaha don't agree with you on that again and if possible a thousand times sorry PTI was the 2nd best party to get votes in all over Pakistan in an institutionally rigged election, it had signs of it everywhere..even in Karachi where a PTI candidate got 30k votes in a feared constituency of MQM's Ghundas who took votes of other people at gunpoint and serves death threats to voters.. PTI still has a bright future ahead of them..

This whole vote mantra , has failed in that dharna , % won't be applied again ?
2nd best in Karachi is always PPP, & that's it ?
Talking about ghundas , I think you forgotten all the ghundas of punjab , from Lahore to Gujranwala & Faisalabad who killed PTI workers in front of whole media ?
What PTI has done bowing on the hands of king of ghundas yes the noora king ?

 

[Green Arrow]

Seems like PML-N does not want political stability in the country and therefore created all this fuss in the parliament. Defence Minister has made himself a big joke today. He should have questioned his govt for not accepting the PTI resignations rather than turning towards PTI.

 

[Meengla]

PTI did the best they could, they have forced govt to accept their concerns, do the audit of elections. Its time to move on. We must make sure that future elections will be transparent, and no one will ever be able to rig elections again, including MQM. That needs to be done in Assemblies, so PTI had to go back to NA.

Yes.
And I am disappointed by Kh. Asif's rant in the Assembly. I thought the govt would be the last party to challenge PTI re-joining the Assemblies.
Yes, IK made a large number of blunders in the summer of 2014 but, just like the APS massacre gave an excuse to end the Dharnas, the rejoining of the Assemblies to discuss the Pakistani role in the Yemen crisis gave another excuse to join the mainstream political process.
Besides, as Aitzaz Ahsan says, Pakistan cannot afford 34 by-elections in the current circumstances.
Time to move on--to 2018--and build upon the performances in various assemblies and to have as perfect controls against rigging as possible. In the end, IK's Dharnas would not be futile because of future checks against the rigging. I wished IK had not dragged things on for so long--causing billions in losses.

 

[airmarshal]

The whole status quo, ganged up against PTI.

Today, parliament, the body that is supposed to be highest law making authority, looked like a putrid sewage overflowing on the streets. This is what you are, if you support status quo, a sewer, a gutter.

Target killing, extortion, money laundering, rigging elections are all legal and constitutional.

You name all crimes these status quo parties have committed against the country and the list will be long and exhausting.

 

[Meengla]

The whole status quo, ganged up against PTI.

Today, parliament, the body that is supposed to be highest law making authority, looked like a putrid sewage overflowing on the streets. This is what you are, if you support status quo, a sewer, a gutter.

Much exaggeration.
On the whole PMLN AND PPP were not so vocal in the Assembly against PTI, Kh. Asif's rants notwithstanding. Maybe Kh. Asif decided to payback IK in the same language for the seven months of abuse and filth coming out from IK's own mouth in 2014? A personal rant by Kh. Asif.

 

[khawaja07]

Much exaggeration.
On the whole PMLN AND PPP were not so vocal in the Assembly against PTI, Kh. Asif's rants notwithstanding. Maybe Kh. Asif decided to payback IK in the same language for the seven months of abuse and filth coming out from IK's own mouth in 2014? A personal rant by Kh. Asif.

PML-N were as vocal as they could've been under current circumstances, who do you think leaked the call and other stuff to malign PTI badly in wrong things?

 

[batmannow]

The whole status quo, ganged up against PTI.

Today, parliament, the body that is supposed to be highest law making authority, looked like a putrid sewage overflowing on the streets. This is what you are, if you support status quo, a sewer, a gutter.

Target killing, extortion, money laundering, rigging elections are all legal and constitutional.

You name all crimes these status quo parties have committed against the country and the list will be long and exhausting.

The most astonishing fact is , that PTI can't stand against the status quo which it was protesting just few weeks ago ?
& could only find its place , sitting besides that status quo ?
With all the criminal record of the status quo , Imran has no place to sit , except the same croupt mandate holder , fake NA ?
IF its so criminal why , then to join them ?
confeused politician , & its part failed in all the adventures they tried for ?
There was the fear among PTI leadership that their decision to wrongly goimg into the senate elections , which brought the list & greed within party ?
PTI joined the NA , because they don't wanted to see their member been sold to npora club ?
Audio tapes are nothing they got whole clip of Mrs IMRAN KHAN sexy , romantic movie ?

Yes.
And I am disappointed by Kh. Asif's rant in the Assembly. I thought the govt would be the last party to challenge PTI re-joining the Assemblies.
Yes, IK made a large number of blunders in the summer of 2014 but, just like the APS massacre gave an excuse to end the Dharnas, the rejoining of the Assemblies to discuss the Pakistani role in the Yemen crisis gave another excuse to join the mainstream political process.
Besides, as Aitzaz Ahsan says, Pakistan cannot afford 34 by-elections in the current circumstances.
Time to move on--to 2018--and build upon the performances in various assemblies and to have as perfect controls against rigging as possible. In the end, IK's Dharnas would not be futile because of future checks against the rigging. I wished IK had not dragged things on for so long--causing billions in losses.

Still & yet again there is no judicial commission exists till today , just a le5ter with the reference for the creation judicial commission been sent to higher judiciary ?
Still yet to known that, how higher judiciary look into that ?
& evem if they make any commision isnt that is going to challenged in SC Pakistan?

 

[baqai]

Still better than Altaf Hussain's resignations, which doesn't last for 7 hours. PTI's boycott from NA at least lasted for 8 months..

Comparing PTI to Altaf ... wah yeh din bhi dekhna tha ...