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Govt develops cold feet over General No.1

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NEW DELHI: India is not going to get a General No.1 anytime soon. Much like the politico-bureaucratic combine scuttled the recommendation for a chief of defence staff (CDS) after the 1999 Kargil conflict, the defence ministry has expressed major reservations against the fresh proposal for a permanent chairman of the chiefs of staff committee (CoSC).

The 14-member Naresh Chandra Taskforce on national security, in its report to PM Manmohan Singh in May last year, had recommended a permanent CoSC chairman to exercise "administrative control" over the nuclear arsenal, head a separate joint special forces command, prioritize modernization of the armed forces and prepare annual defence operational status reports.

The permanent CoSC chairman, a four-star general like the Army, Navy and IAF chiefs who currently constitute the panel, was to also be an "invitee" to the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) and the National Security Council (NSC) as well as advise the defence minister on all matters concerning two or more Services.

But sources said the MoD, in its "recent comments" to the NSC Secretariat under the PMO, virtually rejected the creation of a permanent CoSC chairman post as well as some other "critical reforms" desperately needed to reform the country's higher defence management that were suggested by the Naresh Chandra Taskforce.



The MoD refused to "comment" on the "classified" matter. "We are not entertaining questions on the issue," MoD spokesperson Sitanshu Kar said. The PMO, especially national security advisor Shivshankar Menon who is discussing the taskforce report with all stakeholders, and the CCS are yet to take a final view on the taskforce report.

But MoD's reservations could well push the proposals into the cold storage. Successive governments have used the pretext of the need to evolve a political consensus, as also lack of complete agreement among the three Services, to keep the crucial CDS post in suspended animation since Kargil. Using the same grounds, the MoD has rejected the permanent CoSC chairman's post this time.

MoD has also rebuffed the taskforce's proposal for "cross-staffing" by posting military officers to the ministry to bridge the civil-military disconnect. It was felt this would develop synergy and truly integrate Service HQs with MoD, instead of the cosmetic changes witnessed over the years. MoD, however, said this view was "contestable" since existing mechanisms and decision-making was based on "joint consultation" and "integrated advice from all components".

Opposing the permanent CoSC chairman, MoD said the present system of handling the nuclear arsenal by the Strategic Forces Command, with a three-star general in command and "a separate and distinct management structure", did not warrant a change.

Similarly, MoD held there was "no scope" for CoSC chairman to be invited for CCS and NSC meetings because "only certain ministers are invited" to them. Moreover, the current system of the three Service chiefs and the collegiate CoSC briefing the defence minister was "functioning well".

The existing tri-Service integrated defence staff (IDS) is adequately handling modernization of the armed forces, major joint exercises and other tasks, the MoD said.

Govt develops cold feet over General No.1 - The Times of India
 
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Here's to mud in the eyes of our bl00dy clueless babus!

Some babus have been posted from ministries such as minority affairs, environment (that includes sewage and water disposal), Panchayati Raj and tribal affairs, Women and Child Development etc! Now how do you expect these yahoos to know anything what defence is all about?

Imagine, none of these fookers in the defence ministry have even held a rifle! And they think they are Guderians and Rommels who know what's best for the Armed Forces and the defence of the country.

All I can say to them is ....

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This why Maoists are gaining traction. The idea wasn;t to make military poweful, it was to keep our defence is stable platform with the ability to keep an eye on environment regardless of who wins elections. This is a major setback. Having politicans run the military has been the source of our problems.
 
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Eh , Indian bureaucracy :suicide2:

Not bureaucracy... fear.

This fear started after Manekshaw won the 71 war and Indira and Congressis feared being kicked out of Delhi..

After that, this move has always been blocked.

They are afraid CJS will take power kicking them out.
 
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Not bureaucracy... fear.

This fear started after Manekshaw won the 71 war and Indira and Congressis feared being kicked out of Delhi..

After that, this move has always been blocked.

They are afraid CJS will take power kicking them out.

Its conspiracy thoeory.
Any work you know which done without delay except lawmakers salary & allowance .
 
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Its conspiracy thoeory.
Any work you know which done without delay except lawmakers salary & allowance .

Wrong.. It is an untold truth. Bureaucracy is simply the veil behind which they hide.

In the military we have a clause that in case of national emergencies such as war or large scale disasters, the defence heads have full power to say no to the central government if their activities hamper speedy solution to the aforesaid problem.

What do you make of that?

That provision has never been removed due to unforeseen reasons as Manekshaw used it very well to not let MOD ruin the pace of war in 71 and briskly follow what Indira commanded. So much so that Indira was worried at the pace and brilliance with which Manekshaw executed each plan.

In fact, she was so scared that she once asked him whether he would take over the government after he had won the war and become popular in India. The general simply said that if she doesn't interfere in his work, he won't interfere in hers.

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The civilian regime especially that of Congress is morbidly scared of a loss of power from the Gandhi dynasty and everyone knows that.

Agar kuchh bina kamae muft mein miley to use khone ka dar aur bhi hota hai.. especially when it is a huge country in your hands full of ignorant, individualistic and self-discriminating people.
 
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The civilian regime especially that of Congress is morbidly scared of a loss of power from the Gandhi dynasty and everyone knows that.

Agar kuchh bina kamae muft mein miley to use khone ka dar aur bhi hota hai.. especially when it is a huge country in your hands full of ignorant, individualistic and self-discriminating people.

It has nothing to do with the Congress, the BJP dragged its feet over this matter too. Something seems to scare all of them to the point of being stupid. First they hid behind the IAF's objections, now something else.
 
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It has nothing to do with the Congress, the BJP dragged its feet over this matter too. Something seems to scare all of them to the point of being stupid. First they hid behind the IAF's objections, now something else.

I am just highlighting an example when I said Congress.

Most regimes till now have been inept and lethargic when it comes to matters of the nitty gritties of defence and national security.
 
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Good decision.:tup: Military must not be all powerful. J

Exactly Military should be under civilian control and current system is ok for India, no need for change.

In democracy power should not be centralized :cheers:
 
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In fact, she was so scared that she once asked him whether he would take over the government after he had won the war and become popular in India. The general simply said that if she doesn't interfere in his work, he won't interfere in hers.

I have read many times that once Indira Gandhi on suspicion asked Manekshaw whether he was planning a coup to which he simply pointed his finger to his abnormally large nose and said I don't use it to poke in other peoples matters :lol: he had a great sense of humour
 
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This why Maoists are gaining traction. The idea wasn;t to make military poweful, it was to keep our defence is stable platform with the ability to keep an eye on environment regardless of who wins elections. This is a major setback. Having politicans run the military has been the source of our problems.

What?! How is this related to maoists?

The military has never been used against them. (Except for logistical help and casevac)
 
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