Government wants to Arrest Pakistan Army Personnels

[blain2]

If Army can point out "black sheep" in itself than politicians are nothing to fear about.

They compare both governments and some people say that Musharaf's time was better but they do not want to give him a chance again. We need progress not comparison.

This case is not one sided. One cannot say that army or few ex military officers were involved. This case like others, involve both politicians and army.

All politicians are involved in politicking. Whereas some Army men are involved in politicking some of the time. This is a fact and should be well understood. As such, only those that are indicted should be prosecuted and if found guilty, punished.

 

[sparklingway]

"If any" is contested for sure by a Maj Gen of the Pakistan Army. Since nobody here knows the exact truth, it would be wrong to assume his guilt before hand.

The same should apply to the four who jumped into the reserve car, namely Rehman Malik, fake Dr. Babar Awan, Farhatullah Babar and Tauqir Zia. Rehman Malik deserves special attention for he was the security uncharged, but it is guilty unless charged. People have made up their minds already and public trials have reached judgments months ago.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

The court can only pass a decision based on the evidence presented and the strength of the case built by the prosecution. Both the investigative agencies and prosecution are essentially controlled by the GoP, so do you really believe that a strong case will be presented? What do you think the entire 'GoP not following SC orders on NAB' controversy is about?

Yes, having an independent SC does help the innocent in that the thugs in our political class have to actually make a strong case to get the court to convict, but it does little in the way of taking to task the guilty in our political class, who happen to control law enforcement and the prosecution.

As far as the justice system goes, we only have one of the three crucial pieces (Judiciary, Investigation, Prosecution) standing independently so far.

Let individuals fight and keep institutions aside.
Thats all I have to say.

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All politicians are involved in politicking. Whereas some Army men are involved in politicking some of the time. This is a fact and should be well understood. As such, only those that are indicted should be prosecuted and if found guilty, punished.

Yes, I am with you.

 

[blain2]

My whole argument started after finding out that there is already some cover-up going on within the government ranks. This is why I expressed what I did and in no way was suggesting that the politicians are guilty, but based on the investigation, they should be looked at just like the demand for investigating the Army man.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

The same should apply to the four who jumped into the reserve car, namely Rehman Malik, fake Dr. Babar Awan, Farhatullah Babar and Tauqir Zia. Rehman Malik deserves special attention for he was the security uncharged, but it is guilty unless charged. People have made up their minds already and public trials have reached judgments months ago.

Public trials are often based on opinions or half facts kind of things. Whereas, neutral courts are the ones to be more rational and unbiased.
Do you think that public opinion will have a "huge" impact on the court's decision?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

My whole argument started after finding out that there is already some cover-up going on within the government ranks. This is why I expressed what I did and in no way was suggesting that the politicians are guilty, but based on the investigation, they should be looked at just like the demand for investigating the Army man.

Yes, blaming only army men is not the right thing to do.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The same should apply to the four who jumped into the reserve car, namely Rehman Malik, fake Dr. Babar Awan, Farhatullah Babar and Tauqir Zia. Rehman Malik deserves special attention for he was the security uncharged, but it is guilty unless charged. People have made up their minds already and public trials have reached judgments months ago.

I would rather not have someone so obviously incompetent, based on the UN commission report, as the Interior Minister of our nation in such times of crisis.

Beyond that I have no quibble with the need for extending the same 'innocent till guilty' principle to politician and soldier alike. But you have to admit the politician has an unfair advantage here in controlling those who are to investigate and prosecute. And I think we see that here in reported calls for arrests and investigations into those from the military who displayed ineptitude, while those from the political class who were equally responsible get a free pass.

 

[z9-ec]

I call it political gimmicks of the present regime and it's setup. The bipartisan agreement between the two political parties involved is to distort reality and portray their own version of the story and destroy Pakistan from within.

First off, people should question who was in charge of BB's security? wasn't he hand picked by her? why did Malik flee with major part of the protocol? why was she allowed to rise up? security people in charge and on ground during that time were hand picked by PPP!

Such political gimmicks are only for the appeasement of the *****/illiterate people of the country as pointed out by blain.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Such political gimmicks are only for the appeasement of the *****/illiterate people of the country as pointed out by blain.

I have to say that Altaf Hussain's comments, in his address to the people of Punjab, about the PPP and PML-N were absolutely spot on, whether his intentions were sincere or not.

 

[blain2]

What comments are these Agnostic?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What comments are these Agnostic?

Some selections:

"He said if his party came to power, he would pay Pakistan’s debts by selling the lands of feudal lords. He said those who had floated the slogan of “Roti, Kapra Aur Makaan” had given nothing to the people."

"“The people of the Punjab are requested not to vote for those who had been given an opportunity to rule Pakistan in the past, and this time should vote the MQM to power,” he said. “The MQM, if it reached the corridors of power, would resolve the longstanding Kashmir issue, introduce a uniform education system and rid the country of foreign debts by selling the lands of feudal lords,” he added."

"He said the children of poor were made to sit on the ground in public schools while those of the ruling two percent enjoyed all the luxuries in the world."

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=28495

Some strong words in favor of a new Seraiki province - South Punjab to soon start playing a crucial role in who forms the government in Punjab I think. From the MQM's standpoint they might as well - they can only go up in terms of their political standing in Punjab.