Google restored "Censoring" and Hope to stay in China

[chinapakistan]

Breaking News, sorry for the poor translation
Google restored "Censoring" and Hope to stay in China

2010-01-18 08:49:23

Google denied the media reports prior to the closure of Google China web site and office news.
Assessment agency in Beijing January 18 / Xinhua China A few days ago out of position to the engine giant Google (Google), this weekend gave some subtle language. Bloomberg on the 16th, said Google has denied media reports the closure of Google China web site and office news. A condition of anonymity, said the same day a spokesman for the Valley, Showgirl, Google in China, an employee still prepare for the future as it now is to continue to work in China. The Google CEO Eric. Schmidt, 15, accepted the U.S. "Newsweek" interview, also said he hoped to reach agreement with the Chinese Government, after consultation, to stay in China.

Wen Wei Po reported that Google has decided to deny the closure of offices in China to clarify since the mid-12 has been attacked by hackers, Google continue to operate business in China, and revealed that he will seek in the next few weeks, with Chinese officials met to discuss the incident. It is learned that, google.cn most of the search filtering software is still functioning. Analysis that has never been a company so openly assumed a posture of confrontation with the Chinese government, Google's move has undermined the prospects for China's development, the company threatening to withdraw from the Chinese market, but also so that advertisers would prefer to give up Google to switch to Baidu, even though Google the final decision to stay may face more stringent regulation.

Referred to as "love China and the Chinese people"

Google CEO Eric. Schmidt, 15, accepted the U.S. "Newsweek" an exclusive interview that the Chinese Government is working with Google to conduct negotiations out of the Chinese market, Google he did not rule out the possibility of staying in China , and highly emotional way that "we love China and the Chinese people."

Turning to Google to make the decision to withdraw the reasons for the Chinese market, he said that compared to many other companies, Google has its differences, the China operations for the Google decision-making is a very complex issue. But he still says the company operating in China is good for everyone - for Google and the Chinese people alike.

Will continue to retain staff in China

When asked why the news out publicly announced and not before, and interested parties to communicate, Schmidt said Google is also now contact the Chinese government, hoping to solve this problem. "But we want transparent, and do not want to confidentiality. So we first announced the news, and now also in discussions with the Chinese Government." He said it is difficult to say the final outcome, because the discussion has just begun.

Schmidt also reiterated in an interview Google Inc. to withdraw the statement earlier in the view, claiming that Google's not just being driven by commercial interests. "This is not a business choice - a choice will certainly be the business continue to participate in the Chinese market ... ... we are trying to seek from a global point of view what is the best (decision)."

Finally, when asked to withdraw the Chinese market after Google other search engine to replace the possibility, Schmidt said: "This is a possible outcome, but perhaps we could and the Chinese government to reach an agreement and continue operating in China . "" To know, we will still be in China to keep our engineers, programmers and other staff. "He said," We love China and the Chinese people. "

Google is now turning out of turmoil and the resumption of Chinese search "filter" function

Since Google (Google) announced plans to withdraw from the Chinese market and the closure of China office, the 5-day period, Google has not taken any substantive action.

 

[chinapakistan]

To know, we will still be in China to keep our engineers, programmers and other staff. "He said," We love China and the Chinese people. "

But, we chinese people dont love google since this "google withdraw china" event, dont love anyone who has no guts to make what he said become true... google---a joker...

 

[xuxu1457]

And now,in China ,the Internet users are divided into several parts on the google-thing,about 400million net users in China ,more than the whole population of the US,different people has different view.
Even the Google close the Google site,and the Google is still open.
"We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn ... We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China," David Drummond, Google's chief legal officer, said in a statement posted on the company's official blog.

The statement, entitled "A new approach to China", claims that the company had detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack from China that resulted in the theft of the company's intellectual property.

The news echoed around the world and the western media immediately seized the opportunity to attack China's censorship and heaped praise on Google, which is not surprising, as indicated by their previous records. But the question remains: Does Google’s threat to pull out really result from what the company and the Western media have claimed, namely, China's censorship?

To begin with, Google has always placed great importance on China. Google would be condemned if it ignored the Chinese market, which has almost 400 million Internet users and is still rimmed with huge potential. The fact that Google risked lawsuits in 2005 to prize Kai-fu Lee from Microsoft is the best evidence. It is no coincidence that Google.cn was launched shortly after Kai-fu Lee's arrival.

The problem is Google.cn simply cannot compete with its main domestic rival, Baidu.com. A report from China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) shows that as of September 2009 Baidu.com's market share in China stood at 77.2 percent, far stripping Google's 12.7 percent. In fact, the majority of Google's users in China choose Google.com as their first choice but Google.cn.

After nearly five years' pushing for the brand of Google.cn and after investing heavily in Google.cn, their efforts in the Chinese market are simply not successful, to say the least. Kai-fu Lee's abrupt departure from Google in September 2009 wasn't helpful, either. To answer for its investors and for shareholders to understand a not so favorable environment of global economy, Google's decision to pull out of China comes as no surprise.

Indeed, Google is not the first or only one Western Internet firm that fared miserably in China's Internet market. The online auction and shopping website E-bay's defeat against the domestic Taobao.com, Alibaba's acquisition of Yahoo China, and QQ.com's dominance in China's instant messaging market, to name just a few, seem to have already foretold Google.cn's fate.

China's censorship, as a matter of fact, is just Google's management's ingenious excuse to flee the Chinese market in which they failed their investors and shareholders. For one thing, Google entered the China market after censorship was instituted, not vice versa. If anything, China has been loosing its censorship since Google's entry. The best proof is perhaps the free debate over the installation of the filtering software Green Dam, in which the Chinese government finally budged.
A number of notable "mass incidents" are freely discussed on the Internet - the mass protest over the death of a girl in Weng'an county in Guizhou province, the mass protest over the death of a chef in Hubei province, and the waitress who resisted sexual advance by killing a local official, not to mention quite a few corruption cases that have been brought to the spotlight through the Internet.

Many claim, most likely with ulterior motives, that the shutdown of Google.cn will leave Chinese netizens isolated from the outside world. That is, simply, untrue. The closure of Google.cn has little, if any, effect on the Chinese users, as Google.com, its global website, is the primary channel they access to search for information. Unfortunately, Google didn't even bother to explain that.

Google's motivation was clear and simple: to earn its share of this huge market. When the company cannot attain the goal and pocket enough money and hopes to find a way out, the Chinese government and its censorship, which the West frequently picks up, just become two convenient scapegoats.
And now,after attract every one's light on Google,Google denied that, saying the company is still under thought of whether leave.In the past why Google accepte self-censored?If Google really has a top ethics as it said,Google should deny to self-censore at the first time but after the market share down to 12.7% 。
400million users are not stupid,baidu and Google can survive from tens of search engines because Baidu did well in Chinese and Google did well in Einglish,that's why they can share the 85% of the market.The Google's Chinese search engine is stupid compare with its Einglish engine,Baidu did well on its Chinese engine but Einglish.In china every one use Chinese but only a small part use both Chinese and Einglish.
At Last I would say:the Google threat to close the Google.cn and attract everyone's attention to earn its share of this huge market.

 

[aimarraul]

no one cares.we have baidu.they want to stay in china,then stop disseminating obscene and pornographic information

 

[xukxuk]

search chinese use baidu
search english use google
i think this is what most of chinese people do

 

[xuxu1457]

search chinese use baidu
search english use google
i think this is what most of chinese people do

Right,that is what I do now

 

[grey boy 2]

So much for the so-called "American Value"

 

[Veer]

Chinese plead with Google not to quit

Web users risk wrath of state with floral tribute outside internet giant's Beijing HQ

By Clifford Coonan in Beijing

Google's threat to withdraw from China sent shockwaves through the country's internet users yesterday. Some pleaded with the search engine not to abandon them, while others applauded its tough stance after it uncovered cyber attacks on Chinese human rights activists.

While there was no official reaction from the government, ordinary people lit candles and left flowers outside the company's headquarters in Beijing. "Google – a real man" read one note attached to a bouquet at the Tsinghua Science Park. In such a politically charged environment as China, where dissent is not tolerated, the laying of flowers is a daring move.

Security at the science park has declared the act "illegal flower donation", according to a flurry of Twitter messages. "China has created a new term: 'illegal flower donation'. To put 'illegal' and 'flower donation' together in one phrase, we live in an era of truly distorted values," said one Tweet. (Although use of Twitter is blocked by the so-called Great Firewall of China, the web-savvy use virtual private networks or proxy servers to get around restrictions.)


Chinese plead with Google not to quit

Web users risk wrath of state with floral tribute outside internet giant's Beijing HQ

By Clifford Coonan in Beijing

Thursday, 14 January 2010

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A woman reads the cards on flowers laid by despondent local Google users outside the company's China headquarters in Beijing yesterday

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Google's threat to withdraw from China sent shockwaves through the country's internet users yesterday. Some pleaded with the search engine not to abandon them, while others applauded its tough stance after it uncovered cyber attacks on Chinese human rights activists.

While there was no official reaction from the government, ordinary people lit candles and left flowers outside the company's headquarters in Beijing. "Google – a real man" read one note attached to a bouquet at the Tsinghua Science Park. In such a politically charged environment as China, where dissent is not tolerated, the laying of flowers is a daring move.

Security at the science park has declared the act "illegal flower donation", according to a flurry of Twitter messages. "China has created a new term: 'illegal flower donation'. To put 'illegal' and 'flower donation' together in one phrase, we live in an era of truly distorted values," said one Tweet. (Although use of Twitter is blocked by the so-called Great Firewall of China, the web-savvy use virtual private networks or proxy servers to get around restrictions.)
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China's online community is the world's biggest, with 338 million users, and the sheer scale of the outpouring illustrates the irritation of many with Beijing's "net nannies" and highlights the difficulty China faces in stopping freedom of speech online.

China's booming economy needs the internet, but the government dislikes the platform it provides for dissent and has tried to control content and steer it towards commercial applications, rather than into politically murky waters.

News that hackers had been trying to spy on Chinese dissidents and US and European human rights campaigners using Google's email system, brought swift retaliation from the Californian company. It said it would no longer censor search results on its website, as it controversially promised to do when it set up Google.cn four years ago. It was the highest-profile act of defiance by a foreign firm in China in the face of Communist Party influence.

So far the response from the Beijing government has been muted. An official with the information office of China's State Council, the country's cabinet, said that internet authorities were seeking more information on Google's statement. "It is still hard to say whether Google will quit China or not. Nobody knows," the unnamed official told the Xinhua news agency.

Everyone, from carmakers to widget factories to visiting theatre groups, has to bow to the government's stringent rules on how they operate in China. However, if a company of the stature of Google makes a stand on issues of censorship and freedom of speech, it could cause others to act in a similar fashion.

Chinese plead with Google not to quit - Asia, World - The Independent

 

[Veer]

Chinese users are divided on the Google issue

Google issue should not be made political football

Beijing, Jan.18 -- Amid the controversy stirred by the search engine's threat to pull out of China, Google CEO Eric Schmidt was quoted Friday as admitting that a possible exit was "not a business decision" and as saying, "We love China and Chinese people. This is not about them. It's about our unwillingness to participate in censorship."

While Google's declared love for Chinese people may not be questioned, the search engine giant should respect Chinese public opinion, which is opposed to a business issue being politicized.

Clearly, Chinese users are divided on the Google issue. While some expressed their support for Google, as evident in the bouquets sent by about 30 Chinese students to the company's headquarters in Beijing, the remaining majority held that Google's withdrawal would not make a big dent in the booming search engine market, and that a business decision, at all times, should be dealt with for business implications.

The results of huanqiu.com's online polls available till Sunday evening show that more than 40 percent of the respondents are opposed to what Google has done recently, with only about 20 percent in favor.

And as for Google's unwillingness to submit to censorship, it may be pointed out that Google came to China in 2006 when China had a much stricter regulation than it has now. Both Chinese Internet users and Google, too, know this very well.

The world's top search engine needs to reflect on why it is lagging behind a local rival in China and why it is not getting as much support from Chinese Web users as it had expected.

Doubtless, it is the "digital diplomacy" involved that has further pulled down Google's popularity among Chinese. The Obama administration, with its close ties to Google, has purposely raised its pitch and assertively projected the issue at a diplomatic level. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's scheduled speech on Internet freedom tomorrow has made the Google issue even more political.

Technology and business should not be affected by political interests and diplomatic concerns. Though Chinese people have called for further steps to be taken by the government to ensure free flow of information, it is always in their interest to have any foreign company operating in China abide by Chinese laws. Certainly, Google cannot be an exception.

A split between Google and China will hurt both sides. And the Internet giant would lose further ground among its supporters if it is made a political football.

Conciliatory negotiation may help in solving any issue. The West's arrogance will not work.

english.news.cn

 

[xuxu1457]

First find reasons for Google's failure,and now find reasons for Google's staying
,haha~~~~

 

[Communist]

The above post, Number: #9, posted by an Indian member, is an old news report. From the chronological point of view, the news report is old and has become irrelevant.

Brothers, please report the post and get it removed because the post is actually anti China ranting and nothing else.

 

[xuxu1457]

The above post, Number: #9, posted by an Indian member, is an old news report. From the chronological point of view, the news report is old and has become irrelevant.

Brothers, please report the post and get it removed because the post is actually anti China ranting and nothing else.

Right,don't responce the any report of google,put it in cold

 

[chinapakistan]

The result is google with so-called "American Value" restored " censoring" and Hope to stay in China..................
China did not say anything offcially... And most chinese dont care google leaving china or staying china. Leaving apple we can eat orange... And on chinese bbs, most chinese wanna google go out of china, and dont come to china again with a begging bow like obama Shame shame shame on google shame on so-called "American Value"

 

[grey boy 2]

Report: Google denies leaving China - People's Daily Online
Jan 18 2010
Google Inc said yesterday that it is not leaving China, and will try to seek consultations with relevant Chinese departments in the coming days, the Reuters reported.

There are wild speculations that the Internet search giant is considering pulling out of China market over hassles including cyber-attack concerns, it reported.

The Reuters said that Beijing has tried to play down the matter, saying there exist many ways to resolve the dispute, but insisting all foreign companies, Google included, must abide by Chinese laws.

Some analysts said that the confrontational approach with China by Google Inc has damaged its prospects in the world's largest Internet market, regardless of whether it carries out its threat to quit the country.

The Reuters quoted UBS analyst Wang Jinjin as saying that Google's relationship with local advertisers has been damaged as a result of the threat and that they will choose Baidu Inc over the firm.

On Saturday, Yahoo was dragged into the growing row after its Chinese partner Alibaba Group slammed its statements supporting Google.

People's Daily Online

 

[chinapakistan]

Report: Google denies leaving China - People's Daily Online
Jan 18 2010
Google Inc said yesterday that it is not leaving China, and will try to seek consultations with relevant Chinese departments in the coming days, the Reuters reported.

, poor google... Where is your ball? They choose market instead of their balls