Gigantic Airbus Deal from China

[pher]

Nope. Its a contract. Your government is known to be a trustworthy contract partner. I hope you don´t try to make your government look untrustworthy. China is known here to fullfill its contracts point y point without any "interpretation". Thats why china is a valued trading partner. Not only for airbus but european corporations in general.

I guess you just expressed it wrong, because what you say doesn´t represents what your government stands for. So far we never had any problems with china. Do you say this will change?

of course we will commit to it if it was a contract, but the piont here is it is not, just a letter of intention buying, same as what we did with boeing, so we can implement it in either way.

 

[MarkusS]

A Question, whats that in your Fridge? Looks like cookies.

Its special cookies we have in Lucca. They are filled with anis and called buccellati.

of course we will commit to it if it was a contract, but the piont here is it is not, just a letter of intention buying, same as what we did with boeing, so we can implement it in either way.

Wrong, we have a signed contract and fix order.

 

[Shotgunner51]

of course we will commit to it if it was a contract, but the piont here is it is not, just a letter of intention buying, same as what we did with boeing, so we can implement it in either way.

Hi bro, I just checked some Chinese sources as well, the deal was confirmed during Merkel's Beijing visit a couple of weeks ago. Here are other sources in English.

China signs for 30 Airbus A330s and 100 A320s | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Boeing Loses a $17 Billion Order From China (NYSE: BA) - 24/7 Wall St.

 

[pher]

Hi bro, I just checked some Chinese sources as well, the deal was confirmed during Merkel's Beijing visit a couple of weeks ago.

China signs for 30 Airbus A330s and 100 A320s | Airframes content from ATWOnline

ok, so it happens now rather than markus claim The deal is made in $ and was signed 9 months ago.then we still could take the advange of euro devaluation, at the same time giving a hand to europe.

 

[MarkusS]

ok, so it happens now rather than markus claim The deal is made in $ and was signed 9 months ago. so we still could take the advange of euro devaluation, at the same time giving a hand to europe.

Pher...i work in the business...believe me....that deal was done months ago. What you see here are PR stunts for politicians. If you believe any airline would be so retarded to make that deal depending on currency rates, then you have no clue about the business. Business talks about this stuff rotates around budgets, fuel consumption, pax development, service payments. Also Airbus employes chinese sup partners. And China wants the best airplanes on the market.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Pher...i work in the business...believe me....that deal was done months ago. What you see here are PR stunts for politicians. If you believe any airline would be so retarded to make that deal depending on currency rates, then you have no clue about the business. Business talks about this stuff rotates around budgets, fuel consumption, pax development, service payments. Also Airbus employes chinese sup partners. And China wants the best airplanes on the market.

100% Agree. Dont mind Pher. Guess he is just not happy seeing his government doing good business with European powers. Guess he would rather have Europe's leading powers as a rival (just like Russia) than a partner. lol

 

[MarkusS]

Russia seems to swing back to be a european partner.

 

[mike2000 is back]

RR creates an alternative for airlines to chose and that way we have several options be it GE, PW or RR. RR builds great engines and was able to figure out its problems that existed a few years ago. Without RR we would have only american made engines and that woukd litteraly suck.

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We make the best engines. Hopefully this will help Europe Airbus maintain its lead over our American rivals Boeing. We can't let the Americans eat all the pie.

Russia seems to swing back to be a european partner.

Hmmmm....not so sure....since their intervention in Ukraine and provocations against our allies in the Baltics, we had no choice than to impose sanctions on them, reason their economy has been in recession since then. Hopefully they will learn from this and come back to being partners with European powers. WIN-WIN for everybody.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Pher...i work in the business...believe me....that deal was done months ago. What you see here are PR stunts for politicians. If you believe any airline would be so retarded to make that deal depending on currency rates, then you have no clue about the business. Business talks about this stuff rotates around budgets, fuel consumption, pax development, service payments. Also Airbus employes chinese sup partners. And China wants the best airplanes on the market.

Yes that's a business deal which I believe the professionals would have had its terms looked after, and I believe currency exchange rate also gives additional competitive advantage to Airbus products. In my opinion, despite the fact that Boeing is the pioneer of civilian aviation, has better safety record [1], it would in China's benefit to choose Airbus (under comparable specs & terms) as preferred supplier for obvious geopolitical reasons. The recent high profile visit by Xi Jinping to UK, closely followed by Merkel & Hollande's visits to Beijing, are indeed PR stunts to tell a strong geo-economic message, if not a geo-strategic one.

In addition, Chinese civilian aviation start-ups like COMAC can also gain inspirations from the break-neck-growth story of Airbus (started in 1970) which itself is also a late comer to this once monopolized market.

Like I have said in the other threads, look forward to deepening China-EU business ties in all fronts, more trade, more job opportunities, more investments, more profits, civilian aviation included.


[1] Safety record comparison

A320 series outperform older B737 300-500, but under-perform compared to B737 600-900.
A330 series under-perform (hull loss with fatalities) compared to B777

http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/company/about_bca/pdf/statsum.pdf​

 

[mike2000 is back]

What about this: IndiGo buys 250 A320's

IndiGo firms up 250 A320neo aircraft – Airbus’ largest order by number | Airbus Press release

Wow thats hugeeeeeeeee

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Any engineering job that "overlaps with sales" is "less about engineering, more about bull$hitting". ;p

It's true. I talk to sales "engineers" all the time. They're 99% sales, 1% engineers.