Ghani invites Pakistani officials to discuss Pak-Afghan security

[That Guy]

Ghani invites Pakistani officials to discuss Pak-Afghan security

KABUL: Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Friday, sent an invitation for January 8 to Pakistani officials for Pakistan-Afghanistan security talks, in Kabul.

Earlier on Wednesday, Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had telephoned Ghani to discuss bilateral relations and regional security.

According to the prime minister’s spokesman, the ongoing operation against terrorists at the border was also discussed during the telephone call.

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Well, this is a pleasant surprise. A direct invitation from the Afghan president to Pakistan, I like this guy. From what I know, this is almost unprecedented, at least during Karzai's administration. Might we be seeing something big coming perhaps?

@pakistani342 @Oscar @Horus @WebMaster

 

[SQ8]

Essentially what is happening is that this guy sees a much more pragmatic approach to handling the terror issue and has decided that the time for sanctuaries on both sides is over. The issue is that we still have a lot of Pro-India individuals in the Afghan Military and government(both voluntary and on payroll) who will leave no stone unturned to sabotage this coherence.

 

[Zarvan]

Essentially what is happening is that this guy sees a much more pragmatic approach to handling the terror issue and has decided that the time for sanctuaries on both sides is over. The issue is that we still have a lot of Pro-India individuals in the Afghan Military and government(both voluntary and on payroll) who will leave no stone unturned to sabotage this coherence.

Yes if he survives by every passing day it doesn't seem so

 

[EL LOBO]

throw the kabli's out.....and after that we should talk about security...

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

Essentially what is happening is that this guy sees a much more pragmatic approach to handling the terror issue and has decided that the time for sanctuaries on both sides is over. The issue is that we still have a lot of Pro-India individuals in the Afghan Military and government(both voluntary and on payroll) who will leave no stone unturned to sabotage this coherence.

This new regime is a thorn in the side of some people, no doubt about it.
Ghani and co. choosing the China-Pak camp is a political letdown for them ( not talking about the pro-India individuals in their military or political establishment but their handlers in Bharat). Seems at least like their hopes and aspirations have been quashed. All those consulates lol most likely gone to waste. But something tells me that something big is going to happen, unfortunately for some time at least. I expect more trouble on the borders and within Pakistan but if this is the start of a new era, then what a start it is.
I'm hoping for the best.

 

[SQ8]

This new regime is a thorn in the side of some people, no doubt about it.
Ghani and co. choosing the China-Pak camp is a political letdown for them ( not talking about the pro-India individuals in their military or political establishment but their handlers in Bharat). Seems at least like their hopes and aspirations have been quashed. All those consulates lol most likely gone to waste. But something tells me that something big is going to happen, unfortunately for some time at least. I expect more trouble on the borders and within Pakistan but if this is the start of a new era, then what a start it is.
I'm hoping for the best.

I doubt that it has been that much of a setback. Ghani won by what was a commission, which means that the Indian puppet Abdullah Abdullah is waiting around constantly for a political angle to unseat him.

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

I doubt that it has been that much of a setback. Ghani won by a very close margin which means that the Indian puppet Abdullah Abdullah is waiting around constantly for a political angle to unseat him.

Seems like things on the ground have changed radically. It doesn't matter what one individual or one party currently pursues. It's about the overall narrative of this relationship. You gotta remember that even Abdullah Abdullah was endorsed by none other than Hamid Gul LMAO. If we wanna be honest than frankly there's no way to truly know how any of these guys think. But something big has happened now where the China-Pak camp is single-handedly coming out as the one that Afghan elite has chosen.
Their political elite knows that they just can't side-line us or quash us in the middle (and use that as leverage somehow). Our camp can provide things that no other can. That is cold, hard fact.

All the trade routes, logistics etc. favor the Pak-China camp. I knew that this would happen one day and am frankly not surprised at all.

 

[Skywalker]

Good move by afghani president.....we just need to keep an eye on Indian consulates...I hope isi will be monitoring their communication with the dogs regime in India.

 

[pakistani342]

Well, this is a pleasant surprise. A direct invitation from the Afghan president to Pakistan, I like this guy. From what I know, this is almost unprecedented, at least during Karzai's administration. Might we be seeing something big coming perhaps?

You know it might be a fruitful exercise if Pakistanis interested in Afghanistan do two things:
1. They watch videos of interviews of Afghans pertaining to Pakistan from the 60s and 70s and 80s
2. Read articles, books pertaining to all the Afghan wars (starting for the first Anglo-Afghan war)

What you will find is that each period is almost identical to any other period (save for the progress in implements of war or daily life imposed by time).

So why is this important? Ghani sab may genuinely be interested in a reset -- what people may forget is that so was Karzai.

Notes:
1. When Karzai's administration first came to office they spurred Indian offers in the security sector.
2. Daud Khan Shaheed -- also softened his stance towards Pakistan -- he actually sought Pakistan's help actively
3. Zahir Shah (along with Daud Khan) entertained the idea of a federation with Pakistan.

So What is the bottom line:

Many authors have suggested, during all the periods mentioned above that Pakistan (or then the legacy states) and Afghanistan have structural issues that are at the heart of the problems -- geography, the split Pashtun population, Afghanistan being landlocked, cultural and ethno-dependency.

Rather than acknowledging these facts and trying to evolve a new type of model -- both states (and leaders and people of both states) have taken a mutually destructive path.

The Afghans might want to answer the following questions:
1. How is it that in times of calamity you run to seek refuge with your mortal enemy (Pakistan)?
2. If you want an Interest based relationship with Pakistan -- why should Pakistan not leverage its advantages vis-a-vis Afghanistan (The refugee population, landlocked, etc. etc.)?
3. China and Turkey can alone offset what you get from India -- why do you peruse this relationship? All countries curtail their foreign relationship based on realpolitik, you being a poor and handicapped state should most understand this.

It is said that in Najibullah's last days when he was a refugee at the UN compound and writing his memoirs he lamented to a visiting foreign dignitary that Afghans make the same mistake every time. I'm trying to find more details on this but I wonder if he too concluded that Pakistan cannot be marginalized because of Afghan dependency.

 

[CENTCOM]

It is great to see both countries building on their improving relationship. It is in the best interest of both nations to counter the common threat of terrorism through shared cooperation and assistance.

Ali Khan
Digital Engagement Team, USCENTCOM

 

[Samandri]

The Afghans might want to answer the following questions:
1. How is it that in times of calamity you run to seek refuge with your mortal enemy (Pakistan)?
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The mortal enemies of pakistan among Afghans in 80s you are talking about , were not the refugees (supporters of mujahideen from rural population) but those nationalist , communist afghans who were fighting side by side with soviet union against your and america's men, the mujahideen

 

[pakistani342]

The mortal enemies of pakistan among Afghans in 80s you are talking about , were not the refugees (supporters of mujahideen from rural population) but those nationalist , communist afghans who were fighting side by side with soviet union against your and america's men, the mujahideen

I mean seriously -- yar do you bother doing any study of the subject -- ya jo dil main aya chala diya?

A few notes:

1. Karzai jan has houses both in Islamabad and Quetta -- was fond of walks in the green spaces of Islamabad -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
2. Amrullah Saleh -- fled to Paksitan -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
3. Barhanudin Rabbani -- fled and lived in Peshawar -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
4. Dr. Abdullah Abdullah -- fled and lived and worked in Peshawar -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
5. Ahmad Shah Masood -- fled and trained in Pakistan -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
6. Omar Daudzai -- fled and worked in Pakistan -- great Lover of Pakistan NOT!!
7. General Sher Mohammad Karimi -- fled to Pakistan and lived in Peshawar -- Great lover of Pakistan NOT!!
8. The list goes on and on

 

[pakdefender]

It is great to see both countries building on their improving relationship. It is in the best interest of both nations to counter the common threat of terrorism through shared cooperation and assistance.

Ali Khan
Digital Engagement Team, USCENTCOM

Hello Ali Khan from @CENTCOM , I noticed that your response looked tad bit 'bored two liner' , the contracts are drying up I've heard , when is your contract running out