Genetic connection with IVC for Entire South Asia.

[Maira La]

Anyway, speaking cold, hard facts. Much appreciated ma'am.

Not ma’am, look closely its not Maria. Lol

 

[Shazzad123]

stop your lies BANGLADESHI ..this is the definite answer




Let's see it in a way people would understand

Babylonian World Map ca. 600 BCE: (No Mention of Indus or hte big continents only focussing on the Fertile Crescent)

Map of Anaximander ca. 550 BC: (Shows Asia but not much else for our relevance)

Map of Hecataeus of Miletus ca. 500 BCE identifies Indus Valley as India

Eratosthenes ca. 200 BCE (Shows Entire subcontinent as India)

Posidonious ca.100 BCE (fails to show either Indus or Indus Valley or India or fails to name them properly)

Strabo roughly 1 AD: (Shows entire subcontinent as India)

Pomponius Mela ca.40 AD: (Debatable but I would say he shows entire subcontinent as India)

Ptolemy's world Map: (shows Two Indias..One between Indus River and Ganges and another East of Ganges)

Tabula Peutingeriana ca.300 AD : (basically a road network map of Roman Empire still tries to squeeze contemporary knowledge of the world...The Word India extends till south and the sea opening of Rive Ganges)

I rest my case.. Ertosthenes onwards, India has meant the whole of subcontinental landmass ....that's 2,200 years

More than the history of even Christianity


I have deliberately not included the higher resilution images as that may crash many computers..You are encouraged to find the higher resolutions on wikicommons, if in doubt

Most of Pakistan on your map is Ariana and Gedrosia

A map by Al Ishtkari a Persian geographer

Another map by the Portuguese

 

[Saiful Islam]

It's mostly a Pakistani thing with some late stage sites in eastern Punjab, Haryana, Gujarat.

We have some genetic connection to the people as 30-35% of our DNA comes from IVC farmers (in other words Ancient Iranian farmers). Sort of like how 40-60% of European DNA comes from ancient Anatolian farmers. Rest of our DNA is native, with some small East Asian and even smaller IE (Aryan) contribution.

Are there any cultural elements that have been retained from this

Great post. I was pleased to learn that you are a Bangladeshi and that is literally the only thing which your detractor could say against you.

Anyway, speaking cold, hard facts. Much appreciated ma'am.



Not much. BDs do not have the cultural inferiority complex which Indians have and you should never become like them..

Btw, hope you are well bro, it has been a while. Assalam alaikum.

Wa'Alaikum Salaam, alhamdulillah, living & breathing. Hope everything's good in the states : )
Unfortunately, it's all emotional override, makes us say things we usually would reconsider in reality. My initial reason for joining was I considered it a place of education, it still is but it has its downsides.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

The biggest IVC site Rakhigarhi is in India....the biggest IVC port is in India....IVC DNA only found in India...IVC chariots only found in India

Say thank you to Master Tara Singh who demanded the partition of Punjab otherwise this Rakhigarhi along with your IVC DNA would have been part of modern-day Pakistan.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

As I said to you:

Why don't you lot first agree among yourself if the skeleton is off south Indian or local Rajasthani, Punjabi or Gujrati? LOL


That has been your whole point of argument. Savy??

Punjabi.because Hisar was part of East Punjab.GARHI word is used for towns and villages only in Punjab, Sindh and KPK areas like Garhi Shahu, Garhi KhudaBakhsh, Garhi Dupatta, etc.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Most of Pakistan on your map is Ariana and Gedrosia

A map by Al Ishtkari a Persian geographer

View attachment 762933

Another map by the Portuguese

View attachment 762934

exactly Sindh and India are well demarcated

Say thank you to Master Tara Singh who demanded the partition of Punjab otherwise this Rakhigarhi along with your IVC DNA would have been part of modern-day Pakistan.

Yeah those were Dharmik majority areas..no need to be with Pakistan..same with Gujarat too Sir

 

[KedarT]

Why is the 1st post deleted?

we are only claiming those sites that are part of republic of India....you have a problem with that?

Looks like some Bangladeshis seem to have more problem with it and than the Pakistanis. Ye PDF vaale Bangladeshi kaha se aate hai?

 

[KedarT]

I agree with @Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8 when he says that the IVC is a joint claim of India and Pakistan. People don't need to make a fuss about it. You won't find any historian saying that IVC is just part of Pakistan, not that I've heard of.

 

[Maira La]

Are there any cultural elements that have been retained from this

We learned farming via IVC and East Asians (rice).

You won't find any historian saying that IVC is just part of Pakistan, not that I've heard of.

Yeah historians don’t believe Indus Valley is in Pakistan. Indus River starts in BD and ends in Sri Lanka.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I agree with @Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8 when he says that the IVC is a joint claim of India and Pakistan. People don't need to make a fuss about it. You won't find any historian saying that IVC is just part of Pakistan, not that I've heard of.

No, they believe that the Roman and Egyptian Empire was based in india............ :

Indus civilization | History, Location, Map, Artifacts, Language, & Facts | Britannica

Indus civilization, the earliest known urban culture of the Indian subcontinent. The nuclear dates of the civilization appear to be about 2500–1700 BCE, though the southern sites may have lasted later into the 2nd millennium BCE. Learn more about the Indus civilization in this article.

www.britannica.com

 

[KedarT]

Yeah historians don’t believe Indus Valley is in Pakistan. Indus River starts in BD and ends in Sri Lanka.

We aren't talking about a valley but a civilization. Please tell me some historian who claims Indus Valley civilization belongs only to Pakistan. Clearly, there are many parts in India. @Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8 has given quite a few examples. We can't do anything if you want to ignore those.

No, they believe that the Roman and Egyptian Empire was based in india............ :

Indus civilization | History, Location, Map, Artifacts, Language, & Facts | Britannica

Indus civilization, the earliest known urban culture of the Indian subcontinent. The nuclear dates of the civilization appear to be about 2500–1700 BCE, though the southern sites may have lasted later into the 2nd millennium BCE. Learn more about the Indus civilization in this article.

www.britannica.com

Kehna kya chahte ho

 

[KedarT]

By the way, before replying to me please check your signature @PAKISTANFOREVER

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

No, they believe that the Roman and Egyptian Empire was based in india............ :

Indus civilization | History, Location, Map, Artifacts, Language, & Facts | Britannica

Indus civilization, the earliest known urban culture of the Indian subcontinent. The nuclear dates of the civilization appear to be about 2500–1700 BCE, though the southern sites may have lasted later into the 2nd millennium BCE. Learn more about the Indus civilization in this article.

www.britannica.com

earliest known urbsn culture of the Indian SUBCONTINENT

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

earliest known urbsn culture of the Indian SUBCONTINENT

Read further. Not just the opening paragraph.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Read further. Not just the opening paragraph.

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