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General Raheel Sharif in Washington: Déjà Vu all over again

And you are the Sec. Gen of the UN???? It was these dossiers, along with evidence of mass graves and brutal murders done by Hindu terrorists, that made a British journalist told your PM Modi last week in England that he is a terrorist and doesn't deserve a PM treatment. And that he had a lot of blood on his hands!!!

The story telling is from the Indian side, painting a colorful picture of a country where non-Hindus are killed on as little things as eating BEEF!!!!! Too much for story telling. Go see the videos of Modi's arrival in the UK, you'll see Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Kashmiris, ALL in there asking Modi to stop the Hindu religious terrorism on others!

Dossiers? Without a single fact, according to the top Pakistani maven himself?

Mass graves? The graves of killed terrorists infiltrated by Pakistan and killed in action, or any other?

Brutal murders by Hindu terrorists? You mean the ones that we have been agitating against for weeks while you have been looking at British journalists to figure out what your stance should be?

When I look at videos of Modi in the UK, hating him as I do, I see 60,000 people in Wembley. When was the last time you saw that?
 
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How about you ask the families of people who got killed by Modi's clan because they had BEEF in their refrigerators? If this, the lowest third class human garbage example enough or would you like more? How does someone's eating habit make them eligible to be killed by Hindu terrorists....is this ALL the value you people in India put on a human life?

Do bookmark it as you won't have a proper answer for it. And I've not reached to Army supported demolishing of Churches and Mosques by Hindu fanatics, or the killings done by BJP and RSS, and supported by the same TT-Boy Modi (Tea and Terrorist boy)!!

:lol:

This is the exact point that SamantK, Joe or me are trying to make. .

No one gives a ff for your bull shit because. ..

1. pakistanis aren't the ones who are qualified to take up the upholding of minority rights.

2. Pakistanis aren't the ideal ones to talk about anti terrorism

3. pakistanis are not the ideal ones to talk about intolerance.

The ideal narrative needs an ideal mouth.

A cab driver in the US got beaten up because he looks muslim..(I hope you don't look like one)..Now how is that different to the sole guy who got killed because he ate beef?.
 
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Being listed among terrorist states STILL isn't a good point from which to start a media campaign against those you don't like.

Funny is not it .............. a listed terrorist state being the front line ally in fight against terrorism.

In my individual limited capacity and wisdom we don't need media to do the campaign (we don't have that influence and means right now), we need to bargain with people sitting some levels up in hierarchy, who have the relevant influence, people whose words are taken as pure truth, whose actions are always justified, even if those actions would have been like bombing Iran for 9/11. Media will follow.

As someone with a brain in an interview appearance said "you cannot expect a state to act against its interests to serve your interests" but Pakistan tried that too and it turned out that we are taken for granted. Now the situation is Pakistan has won back its importance, everything is set it is just the matter of how wisely anyone plays his cards. Hope they don't barter their important role for peanuts this time, they need to think biiiiiiiiigggggg.
 
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:lol::moil::moil:

This is the exact point that SamantK, Joe or me are trying to make. .

No one gives a ff for your bull shit because. ..

1. pakistanis aren't the ones who are qualified to take up the upholding of minority rights.

2. Pakistanis aren't the ideal ones to talk about anti terrorism

3. pakistanis are not the ideal ones to talk about bout intolerance.

The ideal narrative needs an ideal mouth.

A cab driver in the US got beaten up because he looks muslim..(I hope you don't look like one)..Now how is that different to the sole guy who got killed because who ate beef?.

And there was a huge wave of condemnation of this incident. The Air Chief included.
 
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Dossiers? Without a single fact, according to the top Pakistani maven himself?

Mass graves? The graves of killed terrorists infiltrated by Pakistan and killed in action, or any other?

Brutal murders by Hindu terrorists? You mean the ones that we have been agitating against for weeks while you have been looking at British journalists to figure out what your stance should be?

When I look at videos of Modi in the UK, hating him as I do, I see 60,000 people in Wembley. When was the last time you saw that?
The journalist who wrote this article was obviously paid sir, why do you not agree with him :(

http://www.dawn.com/news/1220957/dossiers-on-india-have-no-material-evidence
 
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I am just amused at candidates here who have terror glasses, murders look like terror, political violence looks like terror, communal violence looks like terror, accidents look like terror, Anti-terror operations too look like terror, diplomacy looks like terror... this is the magic of terror tinted lens. i guess.
 
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A billion plus population with thousands of sects castes religious language cultural differences. ..Some crackpots are a given.

Oh well

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But our media will not investigate this angle cause the issue is done and dusted, will not make very good headlines if something contrary to the narrative comes out. :D

I am just amused at candidates here who have terror glasses, murders look like terror, political violence looks like terror, communal violence looks like terror, accidents look like terror, Anti-terror operations too look like terror, diplomacy looks like terror... this is the magic of terror tinted lens. i guess.

Its just the hate, I see it plainly.

You know the one thing Pakistanis keep accusing Indians of? That we hate Pakistan, they attribute the ascent of Modi to it and anything which we do is with Pakistan on our mind.

No wonder we have so many Ajmals crossing the borders and killing innocent Pakistanis :(
 
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While you are on the job, why not build one on the other side as well?

We can no longer babysit Afghanistan. We need to build the wall and let them fight it.
Now that China is building the economic corridor with Pakistan, we are not going to worry much about India.
Right now Pakistan major problem is not India, it's the corrupt politician. They need to be hanged in public to make an example for their next 10 generations to come.
 
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..little things as eating BEEF!!!!!

Come back to me arguing about beef when pakistan or any muslim country allows a man to butcher a pig and sell on the streets...better yet! Let me know when a man can sell non halal meat on the streets of a muslim country.
 
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Funny is not it .............. a listed terrorist state being the front line ally in fight against terrorism.

In my individual limited capacity and wisdom we don't need media to do the campaign (we don't have that influence and means right now), we need to bargain with people sitting some levels up in hierarchy, who have the relevant influence, people whose words are taken as pure truth, whose actions are always justified, even if those actions would have been like bombing Iran for 9/11. Media will follow.

As someone with a brain in an interview appearance said "you cannot expect a state to act against its interests to serve your interests" but Pakistan tried that too and it turned out that we are taken for granted. Now the situation is Pakistan has won back its importance, everything is set it is just the matter of how wisely anyone plays his cards. Hope they don't barter their important role for peanuts this time, they need to think biiiiiiiiigggggg.

Let me put it to you in straight blunt terms, and I speak as a friend of Pakistan the state, not of the deep state, and as a friend of Pakistanis.

You have to sort out your confusion about who is a terrorist and who is a freedom fightier.

From the word 'go', it has been the assumption that we have in south Asia a ruling class, or segment, and a ruled class or segment. It was the assumption that the rulers for a thousand years had a prescriptive right to rule, or at least not be ruled, and democracy and the power of the majority to decide broad issues be hanged. That was the origin of the Muslim version of the Two Nation Theory, without taking anything away from the fact that a Hindu/atheist bigot articulated it on the model of European racism of the worst kind of the time.

From that time onwards, the history of modern south Asia has been an unceasing attempt by the Muslim community to prove that they are at least the equals of another community several times larger, and an attempt by the leading elements of the Hindu community to restore an idyllic and never-existent where they ruled supreme. We can go into a lot of detail on that, but what matters here is the impact that these two attitudes had on war and peace.

The Muslims crystallised their quest for untrammeled existence into a quasi-nation state, a nation state that existed on the basis of a single community, whatever genuflections were made by their enlightened leadership to multilateral co-existence within one state. To their great good fortune, the contradiction between ethnicities within their state was resolved, largely involuntarily, but inevitably, by rebellion; what remains is a much healthier pair of Muslim nations with internally compatible ethnicity. The trouble is that in spite of this outcome, we still see that there is existential confusion between the state and the community.

Not that the Hindus did much better building a progressive, modern, secular nation state on the western model, the only progressive democratic model available for comparison or emulation. Nevertheless, they were initially better off, and will finally, it is to be hoped, continue better off, due to the correcting influence of its minorities, which prevent its majority and the leading elements within that from making complete horses' arses of themselves.

This is the root of the problem: Muslim intransigence and confusion about where the state ends and the community begins. One root; the other warrants a separate discussion.

We can no longer babysit Afghanistan. We need to build the wall and let them fight it.
Now that China is building the economic corridor with Pakistan, we are not going to worry much about India.
Right now Pakistan major problem is not India, it's the corrupt politician. They need to be hanged in public to make an example for their next 10 generations to come.

If only it was that simple.

It is the politicians who will salvage you, and nobody else.

Come back to me arguing about beef when pakistan or any muslim country allows a man to butcher a pig and sell on the streets...better yet! Let me know when a man can sell non halal meat on the streets of a muslim country.

Hey, hey, Dubai does it.

The journalist who wrote this article was obviously paid sir, why do you not agree with him :(

Dossiers on India have no ‘material evidence’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

What journalist? This is what Sartaj Aziz said!
 
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We can no longer babysit Afghanistan. We need to build the wall and let them fight it.
Now that China is building the economic corridor with Pakistan, we are not going to worry much about India.
Right now Pakistan major problem is not India, it's the corrupt politician. They need to be hanged in public to make an example for their next 10 generations to come.
which politicians?
 
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