General Bajwa asked US Deputy Secretary of State for 1.2 billion dollars from IMF

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

I dont see this as Shirk

Shirk is more toward psychological reliance. As long as we put in mind that Allah is the Greatest and the one that become our ultimate helper than it will be OK. Asking help to God should be done in many form and it should be complement with proactive action like asking loan from human who has more money

We dont know each person mind, lets not making assumption.

How about CPEC, is it reliance to China as well, is it also Shirk according to you ?

The reason we muslims are suffering is that we dont follow straight forward guidelines given to us.

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The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. Sunan Abi Dawud 4297


O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.1 Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. Al-Mai'dah 5:51

You see those with sickness in their hearts racing for their guardianship, saying ˹in justification˺, “We fear a turn of fortune will strike us.” But perhaps Allah will bring about ˹your˺ victory or another favour by His command, and they will regret what they have hidden in their hearts. Al-Mai'dah 5:52

 

[nangyale]

Who have the habit to take it? who will pass the reforms that army dont get involve in politics etc? nawaz zardari family makes deals and if other person dont make deals with them these families use anchors etc to spread hate. Latest example is Court decision aginst pmln so maryam nawaz now hiring anchors, media person take meme's against chief justice, before she openly blakemail justice by saying she has videos,make deal or face blakemailing etc.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553376065585909760

Okay let's agree that Pakistan is facing twin disasters in the shape of corrupt and anti-state Army working hand-in-glove with political dynasties.

Now the fact is these political dynasties have lost most of the public's trust and were chased all over the world by FIA, NAB and others. Till they got imposed as a government again by Bajwa's Army.

On the other hand Pakistan Army doesn't depend on a people's mandate or constitutional right. It draws its powers from intimidation and political interference. And there is not a single institution left in Pakistan to stand up to this monstrosity.

So keeping these facts in mind tell me which is the bigger problem. The corrupt Generals or their inept but disgusting puppets in political dynasties?

 

[AZ1]

Okay let's agree that Pakistan is facing twin disasters in the shape of corrupt and anti-state Army working hand-in-glove with political dynasties.

Now the fact is these political dynasties have lost most of the public's trust and were chased all over the world by FIA, NAB and others. Till they got imposed as a government again by Bajwa's Army.

On the other hand Pakistan Army doesn't depend on a people's mandate or constitutional right. It draws its powers from intimidation and political interference. And there is not a single institution left in Pakistan to stand up to this monstrosity.

So keeping these facts in mind tell me which is the bigger problem. The corrupt Generals or their inept but disgusting puppets in political dynasties?

Xyz generals will keep coming and retire.

These family will stay here making pakistan slave and they wouldnt retire. Tomorrow if new general come unless he make deal or support these family they will keep saying rubbish about him. Same goes for Cheif justice of pakistan.

So real disease in my view is these two families.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Xyz generals will keep coming and retire.

These family will stay here making pakistan slave and they wouldnt retire. Tomorrow if new general come unless he make deal or support these family they will keep saying rubbish about him. Same goes for Cheif justice of pakistan.

So real disease in my view is these two families.

Donald Lu's threat letter was sent to establishment, not Imran Khan (ex-PM) or Shah Mehmood Qureshi (ex-FM).

It was kept hidden from IK for many days. AFAIK, then Asad Majeed Pak's ambassador to US spilled the beans and tipped the govt about this conspiracy unfolding silently

These events tell you where the real problem lies.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553664399554088960

 

[nangyale]

Xyz generals will keep coming and retire.

These family will stay here making pakistan slave and they wouldnt retire. Tomorrow if new general come unless he make deal or support these family they will keep saying rubbish about him. Same goes for Cheif justice of pakistan.

So real disease in my view is these two families.

You mean to say xyz general will come loot and then retire to Australia, Gulf or EU/US.

The bottom line remains the same any political dynasty can be kicked out by any number of actors. Including the public, by judicial rulings, the Army (most often) by other political parties.

While the Army General once he becomes COAS stays till he has his full and has stashed enough wealth for his next 5 generations.

This is the tragedy of Pakistan.

 

[AZ1]

The bottom line remains the same any political dynasty can be kicked out by any number of actors. Including the public, by judicial rulings, the Army (most often) by other political parties.

While the Army General once he becomes COAS stays till he has his full and has stashed enough wealth for his next 5 generations.

This is the tragedy of Pakistan.

So why pmln didnt make reforms to stop it they got 2/3 majority 2 times already? Can change in the constitution or introduce new one but did they?

Regarding wealth thats may be myth or true but here pmln family is front of us even running from court, zardari family is front of us.

You cant say pmln and zardari family are innocent and its all because of xyz.

Tomorrow another will come replacing current one they will start making deals with him as well.


Every anchor media person knows how corrupt pmln and zardari families are but they bow to them why? public knows as well but they go for free plate briyani.

Donald Lu's threat letter was sent to establishment, not Imran Khan (ex-PM) or Shah Mehmood Qureshi (ex-FM).

It was kept hidden from IK for many days. AFAIK, then Asad Majeed Pak's ambassador to US spilled the beans and tipped the govt about this conspiracy unfolding silently

These events tell you where the real problem lies.

When imran khan left, pdm could easily go for election buy they didnt, yet they are denying it.

Pmln, pdm keep knocking doors of xyz for help to give NRO

 

[ghazi52]

That guy is luckier than whole of Pakistan..

One lucky ticket purchased in the US state of Illinois has won $1.34bn (£1.11bn) in the second-largest Mega Millions prize, organisers say.

The cash value option of the jackpot is $780.5m. The winner can choose to take the cash outright or be paid the full jackpot in instalments over 29 years.

The odds of winning the jackpot in Friday's draw were rather slim - one in 300 million.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Hang 10000 corrupt people in 10 days problem solved

 

[Hawkridge]

There should be a Law preventing Generals from leaving the country for atleast 10 Years after they retire. The Army calls everyone they don’t like a security threat yet these generals are the greatest security threat!

Im suprsied how the officers under Bajwa are sitting so quietly can’t they see how much the people have lost faith in them? DGISPR has stopped posting, his comments are full of vile abuses. Does PMA not teach “Ghairat”!?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

That guy is luckier than whole of Pakistan..

One lucky ticket purchased in the US state of Illinois has won $1.34bn (£1.11bn) in the second-largest Mega Millions prize, organisers say.

The cash value option of the jackpot is $780.5m. The winner can choose to take the cash outright or be paid the full jackpot in instalments over 29 years.

The odds of winning the jackpot in Friday's draw were rather slim - one in 300 million.

I heard if you take the 29 year option mafia takes you out on behalf of lottery

Hang 10000 corrupt people in 10 days problem solved

This is actually a wise decision and actually China actively follows the practice if any Government official or Business man is involved in fraud , or embezzlement over certain financial limit they are hanged

The policy is strict for Government officials who have trust of people

 

[Signalian]

There should be a Law preventing Generals from leaving the country for atleast 10 Years after they retire. T

There shouldn't be.

Officers reaching red taper ranks have usually served 30+ years. They are free to start their retired life after that.

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan army chief appeals to U.S. in rush to avoid debt default​

Sources say unusual move aimed at speeding up $1.2bn dispersal by IMF

Pakistan's army chief, Gen. Qamar Javed Bajwa, is widely regarded as the country's most powerful man. © Reuters
WAJAHAT S. KHAN, Nikkei staff writerJuly 29, 2022 15:58 JST
NEW YORK -- Pakistan's most powerful man has reached out to Washington to request help in securing an early loan dispersal from the International Monetary Fund, Nikkei Asia has learned, as dwindling foreign reserves spark a scramble in Islamabad to avoid a default.

Pakistan army chief appeals to U.S. in rush to avoid debt default

Sources say unusual move aimed at speeding up $1.2bn dispersal by IMF

asia.nikkei.com

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The scoundrel Bajwa begs to papa America for peanuts. I suppose PDM is inept to even secure an IMF loan. What a disgrace. Ironically delicious at the same time.

 

[Indos]

The reason we muslims are suffering is that we dont follow straight forward guidelines given to us.

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The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. Sunan Abi Dawud 4297


O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.1 Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. Al-Mai'dah 5:51

You see those with sickness in their hearts racing for their guardianship, saying ˹in justification˺, “We fear a turn of fortune will strike us.” But perhaps Allah will bring about ˹your˺ victory or another favour by His command, and they will regret what they have hidden in their hearts. Al-Mai'dah 5:52

So Chinese which is basically dont believe on God at all can be used as ally ?

Any way, Muslim and Christian/Jews were ally during the cold war. That Quran verse should not be translated without deep understanding and context. I would say only Muslim countries in Gulf nations and Turkey who do thing like that. There is also a different between mutual interest and complete reliance.

Basically we are all learning from Western knowledge in our universities

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The reason we muslims are suffering is that we dont follow straight forward guidelines given to us.

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The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. Sunan Abi Dawud 4297


O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.1 Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. Al-Mai'dah 5:51

You see those with sickness in their hearts racing for their guardianship, saying ˹in justification˺, “We fear a turn of fortune will strike us.” But perhaps Allah will bring about ˹your˺ victory or another favour by His command, and they will regret what they have hidden in their hearts. Al-Mai'dah 5:52

Thank you Gazwa-e-hind post of the day

a) Pakistan being dragged into Ukraine mess , really fits the bill

b) Fear of misfortune , and people are running around headless chicken
> Showbaz Sharif , and his fear mongering , has caused a panic in economy

 

[nangyale]

So why pmln didnt make reforms to stop it they got 2/3 majority 2 times already? Can change in the constitution or introduce new one but did they?

Regarding wealth thats may be myth or true but here pmln family is front of us even running from court, zardari family is front of us.

You cant say pmln and zardari family are innocent and its all because of xyz.

Tomorrow another will come replacing current one they will start making deals with him as well.


Every anchor media person knows how corrupt pmln and zardari families are but they bow to them why? public knows as well but they go for free plate briyani.


When imran khan left, pdm could easily go for election buy they didnt, yet they are denying it.

Pmln, pdm keep knocking doors of xyz for help to give NRO

Look all these PDMers are crooks, you don't need to convince me on that.

But the biggest crooks are the ones sitting in GHQ, without them there would be no PDM government. Pure and simple.