Gen Tariq Khan, IG FC: We had to clear Afghan border village because NATO was MIA

[Slides]

Entire interview is excellent, but one interesting tidbit comes at 35 minutes. This is the first public admission I know of that we have conducted covert ops into Afghanistan, though as some of us know a lot more is secret.

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I think NATO can DO MORE

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Very interesting tidbit.

Check your PM please.

 

[kidwaibhai]

yeah i looked at this interview yesterday. i have to say hearing him was very reassuring that things are bad but good people are working to make them better and they slowly are getting better.
As far as incursion into Afghanistan goes i think this can lead to complication and we should refrain from doing so.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Translation of a few other points he made for our non-English speaking audience:

The Khan of Konar announced camps set up to take in those escaping the ops in Bajaur and Swat. Gen. Khan indicates that they believe a large part of those sheltering in those camps are militants, since the majority of the civilian population was housed in Pakistani IDP camps, but have not had any success in getting NATO or the GoA to tackle the issue and screen the camps.

Another complaint revolved around the idea of 'tactical depth' in terms of coordinating with NATO forces when conducting ops, on which he complained about NATO reluctance to cooperate (we get the opposite view from the US commentators).

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

IGFC:

It was never our objective to target or capture the leadership since that would have distracted from the actual goal of securing the region. We can't just allocate resources to go search this bush, or that house, or cave to search for the leadership.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

IGFC:

The majority of the terrorist attacks recently are targets of opportunity likely by various splinter groups trying to assert themselves into a leadership role. The exceptions are the attacks such as the ones on the GHQ and ISI building.

Kidnapping, mortar and rocket fire and small scale attacks in Peshawar have dropped to almost zero since the recent ops in Khyber, Orakzai etc.

30-40 kidnappings/day in Peshawar down to almost zero post ops.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Really interesting information on the organizational structure of the civil-military-tribal administrative structure being implemented to control the various agencies in FATA. I don't have time now to translate the comments, so perhaps someone else can, or else I'll try to do that later.

S Waziristan will be divided into two agencies, one for the Wazir and one for the Mehsud.

 

[TaimiKhan]

IGFC:

The majority of the terrorist attacks recently are targets of opportunity likely by various splinter groups trying to assert themselves into a leadership role. The exceptions are the attacks such as the ones on the GHQ and ISI building.

Kidnapping, mortar and rocket fire and small scale attacks in Peshawar have dropped to almost zero since the recent ops in Khyber, Orakzai etc.

30-40 kidnappings/day in Peshawar down to almost zero post ops.

That is so true, we used to see newspapers filled with such sad news on daily basis, but now seldom see such a news, nearly 0% it has reached.

 

[fatman17]

Very interesting tidbit.

Check your PM please.

do share!

 

[HAIDER]

Media had this rumor PA is doing covert operation inside Afghanistan since last many years and US,NATO knew ..PA has deep strike units.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

NICE info of wats giong on on the ground ..

 

[DavyJones]

hmmm.. NATO doesn't like to hold ground and conduct infantry ops. This info does not surpirse me. Plus there seems to be lack of coordination between Pak and US in this operation.
US seems to like nothing but drone strikes and air assaults. Their infantry is doing precious little.

 

[SSGPA1]

I hope that there is a mission planned for Baloch rebels in Afghanistan.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I hope that there is a mission planned for Baloch rebels in Afghanistan.

The Political process to engage those has begun but if that dosent works theres another way to deal with these rebels also . They are definately on the list too.

 

[MastanKhan]

IGFC:

It was never our objective to target or capture the leadership since that would have distracted from the actual goal of securing the region. We can't just allocate resources to go search this bush, or that house, or cave to search for the leadership.[/QUOTE]


Hi,

Isn't it tragic that pak generals are still running clueless as to how to counter the insurgency---for thousand of years since history---since dawn of man---since insurgency has been started any place anywhere in the civilized and the uncivilized world---it is always the leadership that is the target---you chop of the head of the serpeant---once the leadership is gone---the wind blows out of the sails---the funding dries away---the ideogical binds---the charismatic hypnotic control of the leader is gone----

Did nobody told this man,the general, that leaders have hypnotic qualities---they mesmerize the audience with their speech, their voice, their eyes, their appearnce, their persona, their ability to look at the wider picture, they make people do terrible things, they make people do wonderful things, they make people lay down their lives for them without asking a question---you take the LEADER OUT OF THE EQUATION---THE HOUSE FALLS LIKE A DECK OF CARDS---example Mohammad Ali Jinnah---pakistanis still crying for that one leader---saying none is there to replace him for the last 62 years---that is why nation is in turmoil---.

Pakistan's tragedy is that that there are more like the IG FC in the heirarchy than those who would make a difference. It is pitiful.