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Gen. Soleimani and Pakistan's Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg

Gen Baig is the guy who authorised the transfer of centrifuges to Iran. Think the idea was to let Iran have certain level of deterence against America and Israel so it can keep its statehood. Last thing Pakistan would want is destabilisation caused by forceful "regime change" in Iran, right next to our western border. BUT, in hindsight, as it turned out, it was a bad decision with Iran spilling the beans and dragged Pakistan in the mess.
 
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Iran is not a friend of any Sunni majority Muslim country and will support terrorism against Shia to play their "Shia Savour" card for taking sympathy and loyalty of that country;s Shia minority population. Thats how they project their power.

Azerbaijan is also another Shia majority country and they don't have cordial relations with Iran either, also why would Iran make so many enemies, wouldn't it be self destructive for them to have no friendly Muslim country?
 
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Gen Baig is the guy who authorised the transfer of centrifuges to Iran. Think the idea was to let Iran have certain level of deterence against America and Israel so it can keep its statehood.

So after such Massive favours by Pakistan,
Wonderful

Nuclear cooperation btw Iran and Pakistan was his initiative not A.Q.Khan's

i already answered this just google sreach Vycheslav V. Danilenko former Soviet scientist nuclear weapons expert .
our program had multi ................route, it would been even unwise and unreliableto to only relay one route, and follow one rute. and if you follow and study IRI Iran they are never interested in anything that the China offers them and always after Russian or western technology .
AQ Khan
in our program was big zero compared to soviet union Vycheslav V. Danilenko thermonuclear weapon experts . AQ Khan was IAEA ghost chess before Israeli American quote Iran with real stuff


yavar said:
just sreach Vycheslav V. Danilenko former Soviet scientist nuclear weapons expert then you come to realization that Abdul Qadeer Khan story has almost zero rule in Iran program and AQ Khan it was just smoke screen cover up to keep IAEA busy by iranians to be used before we (iran ) got quote red handed

Vyacheslav Danilenko
NOT ME it is IAEA
he November 8, 2011 International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards report on Iran identifies a foreign expert that may have been important to Iran’s development of implosion detonation systems used in nuclear weapons. The Agency writes in the report that it has “strong indications that the development by Iran of the high explosives initiation system, and its development of the high speed diagnostic configuration used to monitor related experiments, were assisted by the work of a foreign expert who was not only knowledgeable in these technologies, but who, a Member State has informed the Agency, worked for much of his career with this technology in the nuclear weapon programme of the country of his origin.”

Information in other IAEA documents reviewed by ISIS identifies this person as Vycheslav V. Danilenko1. Born in 1934, Danilenko worked in the nuclear weapon complex at VNIITF, Chelyabinsk-70 for three decades. At VNIITF in the early 1960s, he was a member of the gas dynamics group and became involved in the study of the manufacture of synthetic diamonds. He worked with leading explosives experts in the Soviet nuclear weapons program and developed understanding of the fundamentals of detonation, including shock compression. In 1960, the head of VNIIF, B. I. Zababakhin, launched the institute’s research into the possibility of diamond synthesis by using the shock compression of graphite. Leading Soviet nuclear weapons experts were leaders in this effort in the early 1960s. In a recent book chapter Danilenko says that “experiments aimed at developing methods for synthesis were highly classified; for security reason, the results were initially contained only in secret reports from VNIITF.”2 According to IAEA officials, he likely had knowledge of the application of high explosives in the Soviet nuclear weapons program. Given his background and experience, this ex-Soviet nuclear weapons expert was well versed in key aspects of developing nuclear weapons.

Danilenko also has experience in the important area of the diagnostics of high explosions. His publications include work on high-speed photography and describe optical techniques by which fiber optic cables are used to capture the time of arrival of explosive shock waves.

After leaving VNIITF in either 1989 or 1991, Danilenko moved to Ukraine and established the company ALIT in Kiev, producing ultra-dispersed diamonds (UDD or nanodiamonds). He experienced economic difficulties by the mid-1990s. According to the IAEA, he contacted the Iranian embassy in mid-1995, offering his expertise on UDD. At the end of the year, he was contacted by Dr. Seyed Abbas Shahmoradi, who headed the Physics Research Center and also worked at the Sharif University of Technology.3 Danilenko signed a contract with Shahmoradi, according to IAEA documents.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dw-pakistan-on-collision-course-with-iran.492305/page-10
 
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Azerbaijan is also another Shia majority country and they don't have cordial relations with Iran either, also why would Iran make so many enemies, wouldn't it be self destructive for them to have no friendly Muslim country?
Thats on ethnic grounds as Azerbaijan government raises voice for ethnic azerbaijani population of Iran.
 
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اقرار سیف الله چتا ،دبیر کل ایالت بلوچستان پاکستان در اردیبهشت ۹۴ مبنی بر دراختیار داشتن عبدالستار ریگی ،برادر عبدالمالک ریگی

Mr. Saifullah Chattha, Chief Secretary, State Balochistan, Pakistan in May 2014 said
Quote "Pakistan has already arrested big terrorist Abdul Sattar Rigi, he has already been arrested and we have informed the government Iran that he has been arrested" end Quote


Abdul Sattar Rigi is leader of terrorist group Jaish Al-Nasr ( Jaish Al Nasr is Al-qaeda linked group ), and He brother of terrorist Abdolmalek Rigi

 
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@shahbaz baig
you are also a baig right?


@ topic
well if anything Mr. Aslam should really disclose what caused the Zia's crash before diving into Iran and nuclear drama.
The Shah of Iran did all he could to create a massive dill hole in Balochistan which favored Iran.
Then came the hijacked revolution in Iran.

@tps77 i am not expert on this buddy. any say?
 
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lolz why not arrest me and hand over to U.S.
i will be happy if i serve Pakistan all my life and AQ khan to get rid of the blame.

well somebody has to ask Aslam now.
Since Gul died and took the secrets away with him.
 
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Gen Baig is the guy who authorised the transfer of centrifuges to Iran. Think the idea was to let Iran have certain level of deterence against America and Israel so it can keep its statehood. Last thing Pakistan would want is destabilisation caused by forceful "regime change" in Iran, right next to our western border. BUT, in hindsight, as it turned out, it was a bad decision with Iran spilling the beans and dragged Pakistan in the mess.

When the people like Aslam (lal) aig who lack the foresight are at the helm of affairs, such things are bound to happen. Pakistan should have never authorised any proliferation to any friendly or not so friendly nation rather signed joint defence agreements and offer its nuclear umbrella to certain friendly countries only. And for Iran there is hardly any reason for us to club it with friendly nations. The post-79-rev Iran is a shia state that views Pakistan as sunni majority state and an ally of the Arab world. Pakistan can try as much as possible but this fundamental reality won't change and thus Pak-Iran relations won't go beyond a certain point. So all we can wish for non-hostile relations between the two countries. Iran could very well have used nuke against Pakistan and thus it is a relief that international community intervened and crippled Iran's plans to produce nukes.

This traitor should be hanged, beheaded and then his remains to be thrown to dogs. He is the one responsible for all the shame and trouble brought upon the nation. Enemy of the country and the
humanity and Poop Musharraf saved him and made Dr. A. Q. Khan a scapegoat. The traitor has been working for CIA since he became VCOAS. He knew very well about CIAs plan to kill Zia-ul-Haq.
 
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well somebody has to ask Aslam now.
Since Gul died and took the secrets away with him.
yup go ahead on behalf of this thread lolz.
this thread is nothing but just normal exercise of meeting with countries.
 
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yup go ahead on the behalf of thread lolz.
this thread is nothing but just normal exercise of meeting with countries.

well do not worry about the Iranians. We have cordial relations with them now
It was a mess 4 5 years ago but we sorted things out.
 
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When the people like Aslam (lal) aig who lack the foresight are at the helm of affairs, such things are bound to happen. Pakistan should have never authorised any proliferation to any friendly or not so friendly nation rather signed joint defence agreements and offer its nuclear umbrella to certain friendly countries only. And for Iran there is hardly any reason for us to club it with friendly nations. The post-79-rev Iran is a shia state that views Pakistan as sunni majority state and an ally of the Arab world. Pakistan can try as much as possible but this fundamental reality won't change and thus Pak-Iran relations won't go beyond a certain point. So all we can wish for non-hostile relations between the two countries. Iran could very well have used nuke against Pakistan and thus it is a relief that international community intervened and crippled Iran's plans to produce nukes.


Cant fault your analysis.

But I sincerely believe that idea was to stop any western/Israeli sponsored regime change in Iran by providing Iran a certain level of deterrence. Not out of love for Mullah of Qom but to preserve the nationhood of Iran, for the sake of Pakistan own security. What I am trying to say, lets imagine the Americans/Zionists did a forceful regime change in Iran and installed a Hamid Karzai type of character there. You can then easily multiply the consequence atleast 10 times to what happened in Pakistan after the fall of Talibans in Afghanistan. Hell, our border with Iran is least protected and imagine what sort of freedom Indians would have in Iran. It would be beyond worst nightmare imaginable. can you imagine dealing with Afghanistan and Iran in the pocket of America on western flank and India breathing down the neck on eastern?

I agree with you about the mechanism of the transfer but would Iran have accepted coming to into Pakistan protection considering how loud mouth and full of bravado Persians are? There are no easy answers to this in my opinion.
 
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This thread is now derailed. Tick tick tick....

tsk tsk tsk

but i know why you wrote tick tick tick

tick tick tick since many here see Iran as a Tick and HELLO we are talking about bombs.
 
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Cant fault your analysis.

But I sincerely believe that idea was to stop any western/Israeli sponsored regime change in Iran by providing Iran a certain level of deterrence. Not out of love for Mullah of Qom but to preserve the nationhood of Iran, for the sake of Pakistan own security. What I am trying to say, lets imagine the Americans/Zionists did a forceful regime change in Iran and installed a Hamid Karzai type of character there. You can then easily multiply the consequence atleast 10 times to what happened in Pakistan after the fall of Talibans in Afghanistan. Hell, our border with Iran is least protected and imagine what sort of freedom Indians would have in Iran. It would be beyond worst nightmare imaginable. can you imagine dealing with Afghanistan and Iran in the pocket of America on western flank and India breathing down the neck on eastern?

I agree with you about the mechanism of the transfer but would Iran have accepted coming to into Pakistan protection considering how loud mouth and full of bravado Persians are? There are no easy answers to this in my opinion.
The answer lies in strengthening ourselves. Iran is still standing okay without a nuke. When such decision are taken, all possible scenarios should be simulated, discussed and analysed. Hamid Karzai got installed because Pakistan was weak and we were lead a coward rat named Poop Musharraf. If Pakistan stood its ground, USA won't be able to bring about this change. All Pakistan needed was to take its friends and allies like China and Russia into confidence. But the got scared to death and let USA do whatever it wanted with not only Afghanistan but also Pakistan. Look at NK, it was stands tall and defiant with much smaller nuclear arsenal which is acquired recently.
 
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