Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Trench Broom]

Israel has officially confirmed that chief rat and mass murdering terrorist Mohammed Deif, was liquidated in the strike last month. You will note that Hamas as well as their propagandists on this forum swore blind that Deif was alive and well.

Israel's intelligence is second to none now.

A reminder that all Hamas will be liquidated and the head of the snake in Iran will become a target should he miscalculate.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Russian ground based jamming would work quiet good in Yemen which is very far from Israel and its long range jdam attacks. Usa satellite info would be there but Houthes need to change jammer locations continiously. For Labennon yes a new type of gps jamming is needed for close range also the transmitter antenna should be separated from power source and personnel which should be stationed in concealed under ground rooms-tunnels only the antenna should be exposed far away from the personnel-equipment underground. Also weaker air based jammers can do a similar or better job than stronger ground based jammers in close range scenario like Labennon although the protection range would be limited like point defense. Since they have weaker signals they would be less detectable passively by israel and It is harder to locate-hit balloons in air as Usa had a hard time hitting some weather control balloons recently. The point is new versions can be developed.

Ukraine already gets atgms which are of similar nature. Russia changes tactics as well. They are using motorbikes which cannot be targeted by artillery or atgm. In the other section I mentioned that they can come up with lightly armored three wheel motorcycles or quad atv bikes to neutralise anti personnel fragment artillery, grenades or hero/lancet copies. Ukraine already has kamikaze drones with limited effectiveness.

I don't know how much you're affected in Turkey, but Israel is GPS jamming the **** out of the whole region, and this doesn't affect Israeli bombs at all.Israel has plenty of solutions to GPS jammings.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/ada

Meet InfiniDome New Anti-Jamming Solution, the GPSdome2

InfiniDome, an Israeli company specializing in advanced GNSS technologies and anti-jamming solutions, is presenting its newest anti-jamming solution, the GPSdome2.

www.israeldefense.co.il

Besides, Israel has plenty of non-GPS guided missiles, this is likely the Turbo Popeye ALCM, used against Yemen. It was not GPS guided.

Ukraine has nothing like the Spike ATGM. And Spike ATGM can be supplied by the thousands, or tens of thousands, depending on how much the Europeans are willing to give. This is how it would roll out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ef6nwy/compilation_of_israeli_made_spike_missiles_used

Lol I've seen like 5 entire Russian tank platoons destroyed just in the last two weeks, change of tactics my ***

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ecj8yf/ukrainian_paratroopers_bravely_repelled_one_of

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1eginiu/ukrainian_33rd_mechanized_brigades_sky_monsters

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1efm3de/the_33rd_separate_mechanized_brigade_together

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

The Kazar vermin need to pack their bags and go back to the caucuses and eastern Europe.... They continue their corruption and destruction there until the next Holocaust.... Palestine is kicking the vermin out.

Of all people, Eastern Europeans are happiest to get rid of Jews. Jews themselves acquired anti-Semitism in Europe which they project toward Arabs and Palestinians.

They are planning Greater Israel now and moderate Arab states want to normalize all of this, including the Palestinian holocaust.

 

[vizier]

I don't know how much you're affected in Turkey, but Israel is GPS jamming the **** out of the whole region, and this doesn't affect Israeli bombs at all.Israel has plenty of solutions to GPS jammings.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/ada

Meet InfiniDome New Anti-Jamming Solution, the GPSdome2

InfiniDome, an Israeli company specializing in advanced GNSS technologies and anti-jamming solutions, is presenting its newest anti-jamming solution, the GPSdome2.

www.israeldefense.co.il

Besides, Israel has plenty of non-GPS guided missiles, this is likely the Turbo Popeye ALCM, used against Yemen. It was not GPS guided.

Ukraine has nothing like the Spike ATGM. And Spike ATGM can be supplied by the thousands, or tens of thousands, depending on how much the Europeans are willing to give. This is how it would roll out:

Spike is similar to Javelin which Ukraine has surplus of. More wont make much of a difference.

Gps eccm active cancellation works good for protecting drones aircraft etc. but only against ground based gps jamming. The drone or aircraft needs to communicate from above with gps satellites so it cant block gps signals coming from above. If they can then that is another issue but I highly doubt it as it would limit its own gps reciever capability from real gps satellites. So it is not spherical. An air based high altitude jamming device can overcome that as well. Bombs generally use directional antennas not emitters-active cancellation. They can be spoofed by ground or low altitude air based jamming. Popeye is more expensive than jdam and also much more visible than jdam to radars. They were taken down before by Syrian Buk sams. Transferring Buk-Raad or a similar anti cruise missile system to Labennon, Yemen would be an issue but it is not impossible. Radars can scan lower altitudes and lower power for detecting popeye and escape from israeli high altitude elint detection.


Also Iran needs to not believe everything democrats say like appearing friendly etc. Both republicans and democrats are ruled by aipac=israel. The seeming gestures are for show and theater performance only. Actions speak louder than words and their actions are evident. Syrian war was started and supported in democrat obama era. Now they are planned to lose against trump anyways and do everything to get this result like not starting ceasefire negotiations attempt with Russia. They might be threatening to bomb Iraq Labennon Yemen if Iran gives stuff to Russia etc. but Iran has cards as well. Full cooperation with Russia in UAV-mini_Submarine area anyways under all Usa threats and if Usa attacks Hezbollah Houthis or Iraqi resistance then full cooperation in tactical-mid range ballistic missiles as well with Russia as a threat for threat card. Russia already gets tactical bms from North Korea as well. It is not an urgent need for Russia but it will make the results faster.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Spike is similar to Javelin which Ukraine has surplus of. More wont make much of a difference.

Gps eccm active cancellation works good for protecting drones aircraft etc. but only against ground based gps jamming. The drone or aircraft needs to communicate from above with gps satellites so it cant block gps signals coming from above. If they can then that is another issue but I highly doubt it as it would limit its own gps reciever capability from real gps satellites. So it is not spherical. An air based high altitude jamming device can overcome that as well. Bombs generally use directional antennas not emitters-active cancellation. They can be done by ground or low altitude air based jamming. Popeye is more expensive than jdam and also more visible. They were taken down before by Syrian Buk sams. Transferring Buk-Raad to Labennon would be an issue but it is not impossible. Radars can scan lower altitudes and lower power for detecting popeye and escape from israeli high altitude elint detection.


Also Iran needs to not believe everything democrats say like appearing friendly etc. Both republicans and democrats are ruled by aipac=israel. The seeming gestures are for show and theathre performance only. Actions speak louder than words and their actions are evident. Syrian war was started and supported in democrat obama era. Now they are planned to lose against trump anyways and do everything to get this result like not starting ceasefire negotiations attempt with Russia. They might be threatening to bomb Iraq Labennon Yemen if Iran gives stuff to Russia etc. but Iran has cards as well. Full cooperation with Russia in UAV-mini_Submarine area anyways under all Usa threats and if Usa attacks Hezbollah Houthis or Iraqi resistance then full cooperation in tactical-mid range ballistic missiles as well with Russia as a threat for threat card. Russia already gets tactical bms from North Korea as well. It is not an urgent need for Russia.

Absolutely not, The entire Spike family is an NLOS system with much longer reach. It also has a man in the loop capability, providing much greater flexibility than the Javelin. Can you lob a Javelin through a window from 10km away? You can't.
Can you fire at a tank that you have no direct line of sight at with the Javelin? Nope.

Spike NLOS has range comparable to 155mm artillery shells, with a far bigger warhead, far more accurate, can change targets on the fly.
Spike ER2/LR2/MR2 all have more range than any missile system Ukraine has.


"Taken down before by Syrian Buk SAMs" lol, you really believe that? Syrians were coping hard, always claiming to shoot down Israeli jets and munitions but they never did. They even claimed to shoot down the F-35. In reality we hit every target we wanted. Israeli jammers make their radars see a bunch of false targets.

 

[vizier]

Absolutely not, The entire Spike family is an NLOS system with much longer reach. It also has a man in the loop capability, providing much greater flexibility than the Javelin. Can you lob a Javelin through a window from 10km away? You can't.
Can you fire at a tank that you have no direct line of sight at with the Javelin? Nope.

Spike NLOS has range comparable to 155mm artillery shells, with a far bigger warhead, far more accurate, can change targets on the fly.
Spike ER2/LR2/MR2 all have more range than any missile system Ukraine has.


"Taken down before by Syrian Buk SAMs" lol, you really believe that? Syrians were coping hard, always claiming to shoot down Israeli jets and munitions but they never did. They even claimed to shoot down the F-35. In reality we hit every target we wanted. Israeli jammers make their radars see a bunch of false targets.

So we should believe when Ukraine downs Khalibr but not believe when Syria downs Popeye. Both are of similar nature and eventhough the shot down numbers are exagarrated mostly by Ukraine like %80 down rate etc. It is fair to assume that cruise missiles can be downed by several means including gattling guns or other shorad systems as well. At least if it is a low altitude radar guided anti air system it has chance of downing those subsonic targets.

Spike seems to be like Lancet with similar range but a missile variant of it. there needs to be a drone or similar to acquire the nlos target and give feedback to missile ins to change its path. Anyways if Russia thinks it would be a game changer israel giving spikes to Ukraine than they wont accept Iran UAV deal but I highly doubt it.

 

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[Beny Karachun]

So we should believe when Ukraine downs Khalibr but not believe when Syria downs Popeye. Both are of similar nature and eventhough the shot down numbers are exagarrated mostly by Ukraine like %80 down rate etc. It is fair to assume that cruise missiles can be downed by several means including gattling guns or other shorad systems as well. At least if it is a low altitude radar guided anti air system it has chance of downing those subsonic targets.

Spike seems to be like Lancet with similar range but a missile variant of it. there needs to be a drone or similar to acquire the nlos target and give feedback to missile ins to change its path. Anyways if Russia thinks it would be a game changer israel giving spikes to Ukraine than they wont accept Iran UAV deal but I highly doubt it.

Yeah, you should not believe Syria, a country that claims to have shot down the F-35. A country which reported fake victories in 1967.

Ukraine is a flatland, Syria and Lebanon are not.

Israel freely bombs Syria, it has no means to defend itself. Look at when Israel killed the IRGC general in April for example. "Shot down" my ***.

Obviously you need drones to acquire NLOS targets, it's not an ability Ukraine lacks.

Israel also has the Hero family drones which , which are basically like Lancets, and can loiter and acquire targets by themselves. Israel sold a bunch of those to Europe and Rheinmetal is even producing them with license. All Israel needs
Iran's UAV deal was Iran supplying Russia with UAVs.

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[vizier]

Yeah, you should not believe Syria, a country that claims to have shot down the F-35. A country which reported fake victories in 1967.

Ukraine is a flatland, Syria and Lebanon are not.

Israel freely bombs Syria, it has no means to defend itself. Look at when Israel killed the IRGC general in April for example. "Shot down" my ***.

Obviously you need drones to acquire NLOS targets, it's not an ability Ukraine lacks.

Israel also has the Hero family drones which , which are basically like Lancets, and can loiter and acquire targets by themselves. Israel sold a bunch of those to Europe and Rheinmetal is even producing them with license. All Israel needs
Iran's UAV deal was Iran supplying Russia with UAVs.

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It can have hits here and there but wont change the outcome too much. Ukr is getting hit all the time by Lancets and can continue. Tactics also change through time.
So that ultimatum won't work for Russia to cancel any UAV deal with Iran in my opinion.

As I have mentioned democrats and republicans are both sides of the same coin which is aipac and they are just playing a good cop bad cop drama until trump is scheduled to be elected and democrats by making continious delibarate mistakes are preparing trumps win. The sooner this is understood the better. If good deals are made with Russia it will create a long term relationship with Russia regardless of if trump is selected or anyone else is "s"elected by aipac in the next Usa "s"elections.

Also there is the risk of future assasination attempts to foreign presidents visiting Iran. The signing of agreements until security breach is fixed can be made in other countries like in Russia. Ships can be considered for travel rather than planes( dangerous because of new technologies like Ukraine shot down of Russian awacs by a long range sam system maybe a jet engine sam system like Anduril).