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FROM VENEZUELA TO CHINA, TURKEY SEEKS BROADER GLOBAL ROLE

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His foreign policy is very confusing. Erdogan seems to be all over the place.

On one hand he wants to cooperate with Russia strategically, on the other hand he's condemning Russia's annexation of Crimea and says that Crimean Tatars are against Putin (Crimean Tatars are super pro-Putin and pro-Russia).

Then he tries to build commercial ties with China on one side, and then his foreign minister goes nuts about the whole Uyghur issue.

Then he comes to India and warmly expand commercial ties between the two countries which is welcomed. Just when some major deal is in discussion, he and his ministers start interfering in our internal matters and eliminates all the good offices he gained in the past one or two days before his India visit.

Now on one hand he has rapproached with the US over the whole US pastor issue, and then suddenly he support Maduro instead of the NATO line.

I tried asking some Turkish friends here and in my personal circle. But no one has given any conclusive answer as even they are confused.

Honestly.... I am confused.


Actually, there is a logic behind it. Turkey wants to be regarded as the Leader of muslin countries.
 
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Actually, there is a logic behind it. Turkey wants to be regarded as the Leader of muslin countries.
No one will follow them, even Turkish speaking central Asian nations were all firmly on Russia's side during the Russia Turkey crisis. Saudis and other gulf countries hate Turkey and Iran wants the leadership of Muslim world themselves, Turkey can only leads itself.

Pakistan has more influence in Muslim world than Turkey.
 
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No one will follow them, even Turkish speaking central Asian nations were all firmly on Russia's side during the Russia Turkey crisis. Saudis and other gulf countries hate Turkey and Iran wants the leadership of Muslim world themselves, Turkey can only leads itself.

Pakistan has more influence in Muslim world than Turkey.
dude, just a week ago Kazakistan president said to youth that they are Turkish. They had huge problem with Russia about the history. They have to keep good relations with Russia but they all purchase Turkish army technology, it proves the trust to Turkey. Seems like Chinese media dont tell truth over there...

with one billion people, you were always lived under other nations. you are the last one to talk about history or people..
 
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dude, just a week ago Kazakistan president said to youth that they are Turkish. They had huge problem with Russia about the history. They have to keep good relations with Russia but they all purchase Turkish army technology, it proves the trust to Turkey. Seems like Chinese media dont tell truth over there...

with one billion people, you were always lived under other nations. you are the last one to talk about history or people..
Simply question, do you know when China's population first went over 1 billion? You really need to brush up on your history lessons.
 
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if it was mall and not relevant, your foreign minitery wouldnt show a video the next day with the vidio of person living alive which angered Turkish side. If you produce army technology, you can confront the country in anywhere in the world.


and you Chinese overestimating yourself... You are rich because of world people, if one day they decide not to buy from you, you will end about culture food of eating insects..
Although Xinjiang is far more advanced than Turkey. But I think that Turkey will soon be able to reach the Xinjiang level. you know. Turkey marble technology is almost equivalent to the Xinjiang wind power technology.
The world (including China) is buying Turkish raw materials. you must be very proud.

And please. Who consumes the most vegetables in the world?

dude, just a week ago Kazakistan president said to youth that they are Turkish. They had huge problem with Russia about the history. They have to keep good relations with Russia but they all purchase Turkish army technology, it proves the trust to Turkey. Seems like Chinese media dont tell truth over there...

with one billion people, you were always lived under other nations. you are the last one to talk about history or people..
I'm shocked!! Turkish Military Technology????

Tell me, do you remember WS-1, WS-2 and HQ-9?
Oh, sorry. Kazakhstan still imports Chinese aircraft.
They don't trust Turks very much. :lol:
 
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What's up with this Chinese trolling in ME section? :)

Ignore the trolls and they will die.
 
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Don't waste your time with irrational Chinese troll brigade.
Agree! The Troll Brigade is the "state act" of some countries.

For example, invading Iraq. Invasion Greece. invasion Syria, the military coup, conflict with russia. to interfere in foreign internal affairs.
 
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@Kamil_baku Bro, Do not feed trolls. They don't have any serious career plan worth spending valuable time to feel something important so motivating themselves to "put everybody into place" trollfest anywhere around the forum to feel better. While talking about richness, Be sure that Most of them are living under poverty. Can you imagine Those big mouths are member of a country having billion of citizen working as ultra-cheap labour to gain some income to survive. When It is needed, Most of them will be wasted like worthless tools against the states they regularly threatens If their dictators order so They need some attention under the shadow of "China strong" fights in pages to realize the meaning of self-respect and self-confidence that they can not taste in their country. Do not give them needed attention.
 
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@Kamil_baku Bro, Do not feed trolls. They don't have any serious plan worth spending valuable time to feel something important so motivating themselves to "put everybody into place" games anywhere around the forum to feel better. While talking about richness, Be sure that Most of them are living under poverty so They need some attention under the shadow of "China strong" fights in pages. Do not give them needed attention.
OK OK, now it's a troll country that says other people are trolls. A backward agricultural country says that other countries most people are poor.

I know Turkey has always misunderstood its strength. But you're crazy.

@Kamil_baku Bro, Do not feed trolls. They don't have any serious plan worth spending valuable time to feel something important so motivating themselves to "put everybody into place" games anywhere around the forum to feel better. While talking about richness, Be sure that Most of them are living under poverty so They need some attention under the shadow of "China strong" fights in pages. Do not give them needed attention.
Tell the truth. Turkey is not even as developed as Xinjiang.

@Kamil_baku Bro, Do not feed trolls. They don't have any serious plan worth spending valuable time to feel something important so motivating themselves to "put everybody into place" games anywhere around the forum to feel better. While talking about richness, Be sure that Most of them are living under poverty. Those guys are member of a country having billion of people working as cheap labour to gain some income to live. When It is needed, Most of them will be wasted for their regime so They need some attention under the shadow of "China strong" fights in pages. Do not give them needed attention.
And please explain the details. Why is it a negative rating?

Although Xinjiang is far more advanced than Turkey. But I think that Turkey will soon be able to reach the Xinjiang level. you know. Turkey marble technology is almost equivalent to the Xinjiang wind power technology.
The world (including China) is buying Turkish raw materials. you must be very proud.

And please. Who consumes the most vegetables in the world?

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I'm shocked!! Turkish Military Technology????

Tell me, do you remember WS-1, WS-2 and HQ-9?
Oh, sorry. Kazakhstan still imports Chinese aircraft.
They don't trust Turks very much.



There are too many "soft trolls" camouflaging themselves. their hypocrisy is disgusting.
 
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@Slav Defence ,you should take a look at this thread and tell me this ok.
If so,we are the kings of fishing and country bashing,they'll get what they deserve,no holding back.
 
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OK OK, now it's a troll country that says other people are trolls. A backward agricultural country says that other countries most people are poor.

I know Turkey has always misunderstood its strength. But you're crazy.


Tell the truth. Turkey is not even as developed as Xinjiang.


And please explain the details. Why is it a negative rating?

Although Xinjiang is far more advanced than Turkey. But I think that Turkey will soon be able to reach the Xinjiang level. you know. Turkey marble technology is almost equivalent to the Xinjiang wind power technology.
The world (including China) is buying Turkish raw materials. you must be very proud.

And please. Who consumes the most vegetables in the world?

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I'm shocked!! Turkish Military Technology????

Tell me, do you remember WS-1, WS-2 and HQ-9?
Oh, sorry. Kazakhstan still imports Chinese aircraft.
They don't trust Turks very much.



There are too many "soft trolls" camouflaging themselves. their hypocrisy is disgusting.

Chinese aircraft? last time i remember you were in negotiation with Russia to purchase aircraft engines which Russia added s400 even though you have super uper HQ9.
we see how chinese UAVs falling down in middle east..

Turkey is not Saudis to do anything to be leader of muslims or anything. they never even claimed it. just because only Turkey has power to fight them in Syria or or in Somali, in Qatar, its just western propaganda.. Turkey help Indonesia, Malasia, even Pakistan to develop their army technology. For Turkey they all are muslim Brothers which you wouldnt get by eating dog meat most probably...
 
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Chinese aircraft? last time i remember you were in negotiation with Russia to purchase aircraft engines which Russia added s400 even though you have super uper HQ9.
we see how chinese UAVs falling down in middle east..

Turkey is not Saudis to do anything to be leader of muslims or anything. they never even claimed it. just because only Turkey has power to fight them in Syria or or in Somali, in Qatar, its just western propaganda.. Turkey help Indonesia, Malasia, even Pakistan to develop their army technology. For Turkey they all are muslim Brothers which you wouldnt get by eating dog meat most probably...
I forgive you for not knowing that.

1. Kazakhstan has just bought China Y-8.

2. China can produce advanced engines by itself.

3. China and Russia are traditional arms trade.

4. About Chinese UAVs. And the Muslim world. Look at the list.

How China is helping Malaysia’s military narrow the gap with Singapore, Indonesia

Indonesia acquires Chinese-developed CIWS for another Kapitan Pattimura-class corvette

China delivered HQ-9 air defense systems and Ylong-1 UAV to Turkmenistan

Chinese QW-2 MANPADS missile in service with Turkmenistan army

China to open a drone factory in Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia shows off Chinese DF-3 missiles

Saudi Arabia armed forces use Chinese-made PLZ45 155mm howitzer to fight rebels in Yemen

Saudi Arabia unveiled CH-4 armed unmanned aerial vehicle

Qatar Parades New Chinese Short-Range Ballistic Missile System

Chinese AH-4 Howitzer Wins First Middle-East Export Order

Iraq debuts new Chinese CH-4 UAV

China's Key Role in Facilitating Iran's Military Modernisation and Nuclear Program; Implications for Future Relations


dude, Chinese are the worlds 1st producer of Watermelon. whom are you telling it? you want me mention more?
Oh, thank you. But you probably don't know that.

China is the world's largest luxury market.
The world's largest automobile market and manufacturer.
The world's largest wind power market and manufacturer.
The world's largest photovoltaic market and manufacturer.
World's largest shipbuilding and export.
The world's largest manufacturer of high-speed trains.
World top 1 and top 2 supercomputer manufacturers.
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:-)

@cabatli_53 @Kamil_baku @T-123456 Btw. Xinjiang has the largest polysilicon production base in the world. And Xinjiang wind power technology is the world's leading. —— Links can be provided.
 
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You are talking about cheap and low quality copy chinese weapons
HQ9 = copy of S300 as like all chinese copy weapons
China is nothing in history but after 1982 the UK and Israel made China global power against the US

Chinese GDP has grown from $307 billion in 1983 to $1,6 trillion in 2003 and $13,4 trillion in 2018
Chinese exports have grown from $25 billion in 1984 to $325 billion in 2003 and $2.179 trillion in 2018
because of LONDON city , ZIONIST Lobby and ISRAEL support China since 1983
by 1988, 1993, 1999 and 2004, a total of 34 constitutional articles were amended in China
and Communist socialist China was become neoliberal capitalist China

Israel Epstein was Minister of Finance of MAO




without Zionism ,the UK and Israeli support and huge population China would be same level which similar to Vietnam
 
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