From The Vault

[Gripen9]

Gen A O Mitha
Father of SSG.

 

[Gripen9]

Young Rashid Minhas (extreme right)

 

[fatman17]

Some more of Lt Gen Shahibzada Yaqoob Ali Khan.

Both AM Nur Khan and Lt Gen Yaqub are 6 inches shorter then President Ayub Khan
Had to stand on a higher step then him to be at his shoulder height View attachment 716083View attachment 716084

Gen Niazi 3rd from left back row

 

[Reichmarshal]

Gen A O Michael.
Father of SSG.View attachment 716085

since when did Aboobaker Osman Mitha become a o micheal ??

 

[Gripen9]

since when did Aboobaker Osman Mitha become a o micheal ??

LoL...
Damn autocorrect!

 

[khail007]

Some more of Lt Gen Shahibzada Yaqoob Ali Khan.

Both AM Nur Khan and Lt Gen Yaqub are 6 inches shorter then President Ayub Khan
Had to stand on a higher step then him to be at his shoulder height View attachment 716083View attachment 716084

Ayub Khan torso is of general height his legs seems to be extra long.
Nur Khan is of normal height as per PAF standard, else he had some cockpit seating issues.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Some interesting stuff from WikiLeaks.

In the late 1970s, the PAF had asked the US if it could acquire either the F-16 or the F/A-18.

IS PAKISTAN'S REQUEST FOR MORE SOPHISTICATED AIRCRAFT THAN THE F-5E UNDER REVIEW (AS INDICATED BY ASST. SECRETARY SAUNDERS) OR WAS NEWSOM-SHAHI TELECON OF OCTOBER 13 (STATE 260222), INTENDED AS USG REJECTION OF PAK REQUEST. (IN RESPONSE TO QUESTION, SHAHI DECLINED TO SAY PAKS ARE SEEKING A-7, BUT SHAHNAWAZ NOTED PAKS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN F-16 FOR F/A-18 IF USG AGREES IN PRINCIPLE TO SELL ADVANCED AIRCRAFT; OTHER HINTS WE HAVE SUGGEST GOP INTEREST IN F-16 OR F/A-18 IS LONG-TERM, I.E. THEY RECOGNIZE DELIVERY ON ANY AIRCRAFT THAT MODERN WOULD HAVE TO BE WELL DOWNSTREAM AFTER OTERS IN THE QUEUE GET THEIRS.) AMBASSADOR ASSURED SHAHI THAT AIRCRAFT QUESTION WOULD BE REVIEWED AND AGREED TO SEE WASHINGTON CONFIRMATION OF THIS.

Cable: 1978ISLAMA10384_d

AMBASSADOR SAID AGHA SHAHI HAD AUTHORIZED HIM TO FIND OUT WHAT TO EXPECT FROM U.S. IN VIEW OF INDIA'S ACQUISITION OF JAGUARS. PAKISTAN WAS INTERESTED IN F-16 AND F-18 AIRCRAFT. A FORMAL REQUEST FOR THESE AIRCRAFT HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO AMBASSADOR HUMMEL. AGHA SHAHI HOPED TO HAVE SOME INDICATION OF OUR RESPONSE BEFORE DEPARTING FOR PARIS

Cable: 1978STATE271762_d

Imagine if the PAF had gotten F/A-18s... Would we have called the JF-17 the JF-19? And would it have been the twin-engine fighter everyone's dreaming of?

In seriousness, this is just another reminder that the PAF had been seeking a strike-capable fighter for a very long time, but it just never happened. I don't think the PAF conceived AZM as a crackpot idea, but rather, as a last-ditch effort to solve a long-standing problem once and for all.

@SQ8 @Falcon26 @JamD @MastanKhan @Deino @Yasser76 @ARMalik @Armchair @waz @blain2 @Tank131

 

[fatman17]

Some interesting stuff from WikiLeaks.

In the late 1970s, the PAF had asked the US if it could acquire either the F-16 or the F/A-18.

Cable: 1978ISLAMA10384_d

Cable: 1978STATE271762_d

Imagine if the PAF had gotten F/A-18s... Would we have called the JF-17 the JF-19? And would it have been the twin-engine fighter everyone's dreaming of?

In seriousness, this is just another reminder that the PAF had been seeking a strike-capable fighter for a very long time, but it just never happened. I don't think the PAF conceived AZM as a crackpot idea, but rather, as a last-ditch effort to solve a long-standing problem once and for all.

@SQ8 @Falcon26 @JamD @MastanKhan @Deino @Yasser76 @ARMalik @Armchair @waz @blain2 @Tank131

100 A7s were offered to Pakistan in lieu of abandonment of nuclear programme but the offer was rejected. A single A7 in PAF livery was readied for the contract signing, USA was that confident but it never happened.

 

[fatman17]

100 A7s were offered to Pakistan in lieu of abandonment of nuclear programme but the offer was rejected. A single A7 in PAF livery was readied for the contract signing, USA was that confident but it never happened.

I'll dig out the picture, l have it.

 

[fatman17]

Haider Ali, VC, FF Rifles

 

[fatman17]

Somewhere in the Siachin

 

[fatman17]

Battalions of yore at Cherat

 

[fatman17]

Burma Road 2nd /1st Punjabis

 

[TsAr]

 

[fatman17]

Tri Services 1948