Fresh MoD order for 100 fighter jets on cards

[SingaporeGuy]

like one forum guy said...either made in india or advanced fighter jet

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

f16 will be bette4 than gripen.

because it comes with whole package from one country.
gripen will gace bigger problem becuse of sweden will face problem with 20% muslim population and many immigrants

Think again, the F-16 parts are produced by a dozen countries,
and many have contracts with LM, saying they have rights to continue to produce parts
for F-16s "Made in India".

sw


Sweden has no future , you whole country is infested with Islamic radicals and refugees , civil war is eminent.

We will turn them to secular Swedes, which will continue to celebrate Ramadan.
It is their inevital destiny.
Then there will be the occasional mad men.
In the recent knife attack on women in Finland, by a "Muslim",
two Muslims tried to aid and defend the women.

 

[sudhir007]

They are linking this order with strategic partnership. so its very much likely f-16.
Sweden cant offer anything like U.S.

But it is sweden who vote MTCR membership

 

[BABA AGHORI]

It is not F16 vs SAAB .. it is now TATA vs ADANI... and ADANI will win no doubt.

 

[Sam Vaish]

Think again, the F-16 parts are produced by a dozen countries,
and many have contracts with LM, saying they have rights to continue to produce parts
for F-16s "Made in India".



We will turn them to secular Swedes, which will continue to celebrate Ramadan.
It is their inevital destiny.
Then there will be the occasional mad men.
In the recent knife attack on women in Finland, by a "Muslim",
two Muslims tried to aid and defend the women.

Don't be silly man. These people can't blend with any society. One day they will demand for Islamic law and separate land in the country.one day they will multiply by marrying your women, converting them and their children obviously will be muslim. Think about your country how it used to be, before these fanatics arrived. Take my word, in future you people will have lots of regrets, that's all I can say.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Don't be silly man. These people can't blend with any society. One day they will demand for Islamic law and separate land in the country.one day they will multiply by marrying your women, converting them and their children obviously will be muslim. Think about your country how it used to be, before these fanatics arrived. Take my word, in future you people will have lots of regrets, that's all I can say.

Nope, some will, as I said, but most realize they would be worse off,
so they are Muslim only in name.
Had a "Muslim" Iranian girlfriend and she hated Muhammed. Thought he was a paedophile.
My nephew had a "Muslim" girlfriend, which never showed until they visited her relatives.
I have never seen any Muslim behaviour otherwise.
The problems occur mostly from second, third generation Muslims losers who try to get ahead through crime, and end up in a miserable state and become easy prey for self appointed imams.
We have a couple of hundreds of those, like we have a couple of hundred Nazis, and a couple of hundred left wing fascists. They make noise and in the extreme case someone gets killed,
but society is much stronger than they are.

 

[Super Falcon]

India wants all melons in it's pockets reduction in price
Bank guarantee from supplier caximum maximum corruption out of deal
Transfer of technology

With these things no one will sell look French in rafale deal showed teeth to India after Indian demands no to for india

 

[BATMAN]

However, this time the foreign partners have been told to ‘make in India’.

What would be Indian role, when fighters are developed in US and all manufacturing plans would also come form US?

 

[SingaporeGuy]

What would be Indian role, when fighters are developed in US and all manufacturing plans would also come form US?

The india role is to find a way to inflate the plane prices and take money for ownselves

 

[denel]

If You go back and read the OP, You realize that it is not "strategic partnership" between
India and the country of the aircraft vendor.

"This will be done under the strategic partnership model announced by the Ministry of Defence in July. Under this, foreign companies and their Indian partners will bid for the project together."
So LM and Tata will be one team, and SAAB and Adani will be another team.
Other articles in this thread has indicated that India will accept offers from other civilian
companies, and it might end up with India selecting an aircraft vendor and a manufacturer in
India, and tell them to produce a joint offer.

LM will offer to dump their old F-16 manufacturing line to India.
SAAB will offer the setup of a brand new manufacturing line which
could include the 3D printing techniques they are using for the SAAB/Boeing T-X.

They also offer co-development of Tejas Mk 2 and AMCA and ToT of GaN AESA Radar.

If/when Kaveri comes into fruition, this is planned to replace the F-414 engine in the Tejas Mk 2.
There is no reason, that it could not replace the F-414 in the MII Gripen.

The weapons used by IAF are much more compatible with Gripen (Meteor etc.)

With F-16, India will have to buy a lot of American weapons that cannot be used
with Rafale or Tejas, without extensive work, or spend a lot of work
to qualify the existing missiles for F-16. LM has no incentive to help, so India is on her own.

Such work for the F-16 involves digging deep into the core functionality of the S/W.
SAAB much more modern S/W architecture has separated the core functionality of flying from other stuff, so if India want a new weapon, they develop an "App" which can be completed in days, instead of in years. SAAB has incentive to help, because adding stuff to the Gripen will
increase the interest worldwide for the aircraft.

India is desperate to increase its fighter strength.
The F-16 production line is ready to churn out aircrafts NOW.
Still, India wants to wait until 2021, when it really the first time they will be able to get Gripen.
(Sweden and Brazil will get the first production aircrafts in 2019).

Why wait, if the F-16 is what everyone wants?

Friend this will drag on another 5 years; it is all posturing and frankly what do you expect from india... they want to get every bit of cent worth out of a deal. At this stage US is in curry flavour so it may go that route.

F-16 is long passe, Gripen is the current and future.

 

[Bheemsen]

Think again, the F-16 parts are produced by a dozen countries,
and many have contracts with LM, saying they have rights to continue to produce parts
for F-16s "Made in India".



We will turn them to secular Swedes, which will continue to celebrate Ramadan.
It is their inevital destiny.
Then there will be the occasional mad men.
In the recent knife attack on women in Finland, by a "Muslim",
two Muslims tried to aid and defend the women.

highly unlikely your immigrant muslims are raping your women in gangs , sweden the rape capital of world

 

[kaykay]

highly unlikely your immigrant muslims are raping your women in gangs , sweden the rape capital of world

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